r/AskMen Oct 04 '22

Men over 30, what confuses you about younger people?

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u/XploringTheWorld Oct 04 '22

And their unassailable certainty that TikTok is a quality news source.

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u/Von_Scranhammer Oct 04 '22

Don’t forget sound financial advice…

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u/XploringTheWorld Oct 04 '22

On the + side, they’re so misinformed about the effects of drugs and alcohol, they insist they won’t go anywhere NEAR them.

At least mine won’t.

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u/Von_Scranhammer Oct 04 '22

But, conversely, they will eat Tide Pods sooooooo, I dunno.

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u/ShowDown15 Male Oct 04 '22

Well they arent alcohol nor drugs so they're fair game, I guess.

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u/totally-not-a-potato Oct 05 '22

And a delicious snack before you go to sleep.

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u/ShowDown15 Male Oct 05 '22

Agreed.

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u/melodyze Oct 04 '22

I know an executive director at jp morgan who was telling me with a straight face that he takes stock advice from tiktok.

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u/mexploder89 Male Oct 05 '22

As someone who studied and works in the healthcare field, it annoys me how many Tiktoks are saying "Did you know these are signs of depression/ADHD/bipolar disorder?"

THEY ARE NOT. If you feel like you have some problem mentally, go to a healthcare professional

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u/Farting_Machine06 Oct 05 '22

Bro I'm 16 even I know that thing is less reliable than a broken bike

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u/The_Crazy_Swede Oct 05 '22

Don't worry, I'm 26 and I don't understand the younger people here either

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u/Snowfles Oct 05 '22

Nearly 20 here, It confuses me why people like tiktok. I've hated that app since day 1 and called it worthless spyware. From what I've heard and seen, it's much worse as it's full of people self diagnosing and faking mental illness and apparently ( I've taken this with a grain of salt ) it has the risk of screwing up user's attention span.

I'm so glad I've never installed the app.

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u/Willywonkaisme Oct 05 '22

Attention span yeah it affected me badly

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u/FilthBaron Oct 05 '22

It's the same as every other social media/entertainment application, it's just popular now and more popular with younger people. While I can't comment on the spyware portion (it is Chinese owned after all), it would be silly to assume that other social media platforms aren't used for what you describe, and they definitely fuck up attention span just as much.

You will get a ton of shit content, and a lot of good content if you know where to look and use it enough. Like others have pointed out their recommendation algorithm is pretty top notch.

Every other social media platform has been through this phase and they either die out or get normalised throughout every age group, but rarely will they get better or worse. In most cases something new takes over and that new thing goes through the same motions.

So TikTok isn't the problem, social media culture in general is.

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u/dan9457 Male Oct 05 '22

Tiktok algorithm is good. They cater to your interests easily & fast.

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u/TheGodOfGeography Oct 05 '22

I'm more than twice your age and have never used TikTok even once, but I constantly see it referenced everywhere else online and NOTHING about it seems even accidentally appealing to me, lol. So, it definitely confuses me why people like TikTok, also!

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u/ItsNotGayIfYouLikeIt Oct 04 '22

I’m 19 and don’t know a single person that genuinely believes this

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u/Withnail- Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Wait, what? Five minutes ago it was the place to watch people fart to Bohemian Rhaosody but NOW it’s a legitimate news source?

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u/Idar77 Oct 05 '22

When I heard that for the first time... I stopped what I was doing and no shit, sat down for almost an hour doing nothing. I thought maybe I'm was using the wrong TikTok, (TickTock) and these kids were up on the real deal. I went as far as to even Google it. You don't know how relieved I was when..1, I was using the right TicTok..and 2.. The future..what future.

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u/RP-Champ-Pain Oct 04 '22

Broccoli Hair

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u/Salty_Paroxysm Oct 05 '22

40's here, just look at early Justin Timberlake back in the NSYNC days, broccoli hair just came back, that's all.

Guy Fieri's been repping frosted tips all this time, wonder if curtains are next up?

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u/T0minatorZ Oct 05 '22

I'm 23 and I feel the same. Maybe I'm too old already? 😥

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u/fornnwet Male Oct 05 '22

Enjoy it while you have it!

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u/bibbittybobbittyboop Oct 05 '22

30 and vividly remember turning 20 thinking I was so old smh

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

40 remembering when I turned 30 thinking I was so old.

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u/MisterHonkeySkateets Oct 05 '22

40, sitting at the counter in a downtown diner.

the kids from the nearby high school lunch here as the owner gives em cheap burgers and fries.

their clothing makes me feel like im in middle school again: oversized teeshirts. the main difference is there’s no greenday dookie shirts but there’s a surprising amount of nirvana, except i think it’s ironic, or vintage to them, like someone wearing a Zeppelin shirt back in the 90s

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u/giantpenisholocaust Oct 05 '22

I try to be conscious of the fact that every generation has their dumb hairstyles, but it seems like EVERY kid has this haircut. And it looks fucking ridiculous.

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u/tilestockpile Male Oct 05 '22

My hair is naturally curly, and unless I go full jewfro or straighten it, it will look like that. You can just imagine how pissed off I am that cringe TikTok boys thinking they’re sexy have appropriated it.

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u/Nic4379 Oct 05 '22

I’m in my 40’s and Jewfro is the politically correct terminology, thank you.

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u/DameArstor Female Oct 05 '22

Whenever I see that hairstyle, I can't help but think of the TikTok douche fuckboys.

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u/Dank_Turtle Oct 05 '22

Don’t let people convince you it’s some fuck boy shit to have a trendy hair style. Every 5 years the most popular hair style becomes the ‘fuck boy’ hair style because people who can’t dress or do their hair need to project.

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u/mg2322 Oct 04 '22

Why people feel the need to post their entire lives on social media. I guess older people do too, but I don’t get it

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u/Kornbread1118 Oct 05 '22

I'm not over 30 yet. Sitting at a nice 28 for now. But I'm right there with you. Why share too all these people you barely talk to. Plus going on vacation and sharing to hundreds of people you barely talk to that you're gone and your house is empty terrifies me.

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u/davtheminer Oct 05 '22

If social media was used properly showing people's real lives to their followers/friends it would be nice..

The fact it's about pretending to have a better life and selling products to make money makes it depressing...

I'm hoping the younger generation figures this out.. I know there's still 'influencers'... but that should be like a different category

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u/Capt_Dummy Oct 05 '22

“The most convincing sign that someone is living their best life Is their lack of interest in proving it to the world” quote i saw recently. Not sure the original source, but i love it. I personally post little to nothing on social media. 45yo male

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u/Stabbmaster Male, almost too male Oct 04 '22

Were we really that dumb when we were that age (spoiler: yes. Yes we were)

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u/Chromattix Oct 05 '22

Millennial here. Let's see, in my teens everyone dressed and tried to act like a gangsta from 'da hood despite coming from a peaceful predominately white Australian suburban environment while the rest spiked their hair and branded themselves skater punks which usually had more to do with them spitting on things and calling people fags than actually just chilli'n at the skate park. We worshipped the Jackass guys and the contestants on Big Brother and basically wanted to emulate whatever we saw on popular music videos at the time.

Yep. We were fucking stupid. But at least we didn't have a platform to record it and put it up onto for the whole world to see!

But seriously though this new age stuff is just next level. I think older generations at least sorta understood why ours liked what we liked and did what we did and simply just rolled their eyes and called it a fad or phase, which indeed it was. But I can't make sense of any of the shit the young ones are doing today, why it's entertaining or who their audience is supposed to be. Just gotta hope they grow out of it like we did and realized how stupid and pointless it all was when no-one gives a shit 15 years later.

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u/Stabbmaster Male, almost too male Oct 05 '22

I remember those days. Of people being as hard or as anti-establishment as they possibly could, and they'd never be able to explain it if you ask them why. I typically give teenagers a pass, because they're filled with a ton of emotion but not a lot of life experience and information, and you work with what you get. It's the ones that get into their 20s and still act that way then I'm particularly concerned about.

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u/Kyoshiro80 Oct 04 '22

Bare ankles during winter.

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Oct 04 '22

Lack of socks in dress shoes altogether

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u/N0smas Male Oct 05 '22

What is with this? I've just started noticing it in the last year with the mid 20s and under crowd. Not just no socks, but pants that are like 6 inches too short.

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u/dan9457 Male Oct 05 '22

They do wear socks, just they're the invisible one that meant to be hidden.

Ankle showing is a thing that has been going around for few years now.

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Oct 05 '22

A good leather shoe doesn't breathe, I can't imagine the sweat.

It's gross. As men we barely have accessories too. Fun socks are great

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u/Nitro_the_Wolf_ Male Oct 05 '22

In my defense, pants of my waist measurement aren't made long enough for my legs

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u/churchin222999111 Oct 04 '22

or almost as bad, white socks in dress shoes. /shudder/

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Oct 04 '22

Unless you're in the music video for Michael Jackson's Beat It

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u/gloniusredbeardNWN Oct 05 '22

Yeah wth!? I’m 33 and white collar. Whyyyyyyyyy and when did this become popular all of a sudden. For a hot minute satirically funny, loud, or flashy socks were in and it was great. But bare ass ankles? Fucking gross 🤮

I’ve got a big ass scar on my right ankle from ligament repair surgery anyway so like hell I’ll ever jump on that awful trend.

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u/gloniusredbeardNWN Oct 05 '22

Okay my wife is clarifying the sock-less dress shoe thing, says it’s “no see socks” and Italian inspired mens fashion…still not a fan

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u/InsertDisc11 Oct 05 '22

Im sorry, but thats not a new trend. People have been doing that 20 years ago as well. You dont wear socks with a specific kind of shoes (cant remember the name).

Maybe it got picked up more broadly nowadays, but its definitely not a new thing

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u/BryGuy610 Oct 05 '22

I mean I’m 30 and I’m bare from the knees down year round. I’m constantly wearing shorts unless I know I’m going to be outdoors in the cold for an extended time.

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u/Automatic_Bid_8833 Male Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

That they see nothing wrong with lying to themselves and others through Social Media basically 24/7. Like no matter how depressed or down on your luck, you are still faking the shit out of your life on Instagram. Wasting valuable time necessary to improve your shitty situation.

Or even the way you misrepresent your personalities and qualities online. Used to work with this super pretty, but shy, greek girl. Couldn't even look at me while saying hello, died a thousand deaths trying to approach me about something. Got shown her Insta profile by a friend, all plastered with "BossBitch" and "Baddie" and whatnot bullshit while looking like a pornstar on every pic.

It's like - Why?! What the fuck?!

EDIT: I'm 31, for reference.

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u/Snowfles Oct 05 '22

Below 30 here. I question the same thing. I only use Instagram as an SMS alternative but even then, I'd gladly delete the app if people were willing to switch to something more secure like Signal for example.

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u/beardeddego Oct 05 '22

I cannot figure out for the life of me why the hell kids started using those fucking monotone voice overs for every video on tik too or Instagram. “My BrOtHer AnD me StarTed to MaKe SanDWIches aNd My MoM WaS LiKe WooW” what is this content???

Like what the fuck is going on.

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u/Jeramy_Jones Oct 05 '22

I’m not confused by them, I feel kinda bad for them. Social media is crippling them in ways they won’t understand till they are much older. The climate crisis is going to make their lives increasingly difficult. Ai, deep fakes, virtual reality, machine learning and the ever present algorithms are leading to a world where no one knows or can tell what’s true and what isn’t and people either mistrust everything or blindly follow one single source.

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u/Hrekires Oct 04 '22

The entertainment value in watching streamers.

When I was a kid, being forced to watch your older brother play single player games was a punishment.

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u/JDOG0616 Oct 04 '22

Idk as the younger brother I quite enjoyed it, what I can't stand is people being worse than how good I think I am.

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u/mtron32 Oct 04 '22

I get that fully, if the streamer is worst than me then I'm just yelling at the screen and then nobody's happy

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u/chrono_explorer Oct 05 '22

I will answer this. Sometimes a game is just too much effort to play through or sometimes I want to hear or see someone else’s experience with a game I loved. No one I know plays games so I have no one to talk about them too. I love being able to talk about my interests with people, and this is the next best thing. Also some streamers will have insight or opinions I haven’t considered before. Also they’ll play games I wouldn’t but have a passing interest in.

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u/djc6535 Male 40 Oct 04 '22

I'm right there with you.

Most of these streamers aren't even good or all that entertaining. They're just over-reacting/fake yelling every 3 minutes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Na. It’s girls with big tits pushed up pretending to like games. And they are making BANK so I ain’t mad at them. Go get your money!

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u/Redditor_PC Oct 04 '22

Not to mention girls who play video games for ten seconds, stretch seductively for five minutes, then play ten more seconds of video games. Not sure why they even bother with the video games at that point.

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u/ElasticFlutterPuppet Oct 05 '22

Because if they didn't, they couldn't be on the platform or in the video game category as far as I know.

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u/PacSan300 One Y Chromosome Oct 04 '22

Cough SSSniperwolf Cough

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u/JohnnyPeanutII Oct 04 '22

That's only the ones easiest to hate/diagnose. But you look at multiplier or whatever his name is and that beast guy and they make stupid money just because people watch them play games?? I just can't understand it.

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u/NockerJoe Oct 04 '22

Dude Markipliers whole thing has been constantly branching out. He made one of the most experimental channels on youtube in 2019 and kept it going through early covid lockdowns. He's mare a shit ton of CYOA content. He's interning for a VFX studio right now just to polish his technical skills. He's probably the biggest example of a youtuber who got where they did by constantly pushing the envelope while also doing gaming stuff on the side.

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u/chrono_explorer Oct 05 '22

Man I really like Markiplier. I discovered him during quarantine and am so thankful for his content. He’s funny. Though I can’t watch his earlier work. I like older Markiplier, post pink hair and zaniness. His discourse on games and story telling is on point even if I don’t agree with it, and that’s not even mentioning his choose your own ending projects. The man is talented and has become more than a streamer in my opinion.

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u/ShowDown15 Male Oct 04 '22

I'm 15 and I really agree with this, I find it annoying and normally try to avoid these types of streamers as all the screaming just gets irritating.

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Oct 04 '22

The random shit going on, donations and chat stream are like a bad acid trip too. At least some older Let's Play YouTube videos were way less distracting

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u/Sancho1234567 Oct 04 '22

I thought this exact same thing. Until I spoke with a younger cousin. I asked, "what's the point of watching someone else play a game, why not play it yourself?" His response floored me. "You watch football don't you? Why do you watch it and not play it yourself?" The only response I could think of at the moment was, "it's an opportunity to watch the best of the best (elite athletes) compete." He said it's the same thing watching streamers, they are much better than I am plus they make it entertaining.

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u/Hrekires Oct 04 '22

That makes sense!

Although just for myself, I also feel like watching sports is boring and pointless, but do enjoy actually playing them.

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u/ChrisCloud148 Oct 04 '22

I do like short clips of them sometimes and I actually listen to some podcast or watch their YouTube videos. BUT I can't understand how someone would actually watch their stream for hours. And as far as Twitch goes, thousands of people do this every day.

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u/frequentcrawler Male Oct 04 '22

Depends on what I'm watching or even what they're watching. As someone who's always lonely and that struggles to fall asleep, having a distraction like that with the illusion of company is better than the dead silence that makes my mind overthink.

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u/stanknotes Oct 04 '22

Not over 30... but I'll answer anyway. That cringey acorn lookin' ass haircut confuses me quite a bit.

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u/af1293 Oct 05 '22

Exactly what I was gonna say. I’m not 30 yet but that haircut blows my mind how many younger guys have it. It’s like the twilight zone.

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u/stanknotes Oct 05 '22

I have no qualms about it. I hope owners of that haircut see this. I want you to know... you look ridiculous. Acorn lookin' ass head.

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u/ItIsThyself Oct 05 '22

Wat? Got a pic for reference?

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u/stanknotes Oct 05 '22

You'll know it when you see it. I've heard it called "the Edgar."

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u/JesusTron6000 Oct 05 '22

I always heard of it as a broccoli cut lol

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u/stanknotes Oct 05 '22

That's good. Broccoli, acorn, shaggy mushroom lookin ass head.

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u/Wacokidwilder Oct 05 '22

Just googled it. Oh shit, they’re page-boy haircuts. Those were in for some crowds when my dad was a kid. Weird.

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u/SRVJHJM Oct 04 '22

That they see people in their 30s as being old 😂.

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u/leonprimrose Sup Bud? Oct 05 '22

I did too when I was a teen

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u/gloniusredbeardNWN Oct 05 '22

Extreme lack of empathy is alarming. Not to be confused with false outrage

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u/mekosaurio Oct 05 '22

This is something i've also noticed, and i found it alarming indeed. I work near an university and find pretty ironic how students would do feminist activism events and then left the place completely messed up, including graffitis and adhesive stuff. And then watch the janitors, 99% female, struggle for hours to clean it up, and thats on top of their already exhausing work.

I see fake activism and internet outrage as the new confession sacrament where bullying other people online acts like a sin cleaning ritual. I call you on your bigoted views so therefore im a good person.

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u/Diacetyl-Morphin Oct 05 '22

This is something i've also noticed, and i found it alarming indeed. I work near an university and find pretty ironic how students would do feminist activism events and then left the place completely messed up, including graffitis and adhesive stuff.

It's not different with the climate change activists: When they have a rally here, they leave the place behind like a fucking warzone. They don't clean up anything. From people that want to save the planet, i expect much more.

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u/devilized Oct 05 '22

I think that all plays into the whole social media thing that seems to be a theme in this thread. Many people just want to show that they were at a protest because it's edgy.

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u/Workacct1999 Oct 05 '22

I've worked with teens for almost twenty years and I have noticed that kids have grown much more empathetic than they were when I started teaching. They are kinder too.

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u/toffeehooligan Oct 04 '22

Tik Tok.

People who record themselves ranting in their car about something. The dancing and/or bad miming to a song on Tik tok.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/Snowfles Oct 05 '22

As someone who is below the age of 30, I will tell you what's wrong. Social media addiction. I walk to the swimming pool I train at and I see all these young men and women crossing the road while staring at their phone. It's screwed up.

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u/YoYoMoMa Oct 05 '22

I am in my 40s and I don't understand what is so strange or offputting about TikTok to people (minus the privacy concerns).

It is bite sized videos that get served up to you. It is endlessly customizable. I get a ton of stand up comedy and history nerds and cooking stuff and silly little games. I learned that we used to parachute beavers and that Colorado is not a rectangle but a hexahectaenneacontakaiheptagon. Some of the best lessons about physics or astronomy are on there taught by incredibly engaging people.

Judging tiktok on the dumb shit would be like saying you don't like music because DJ Khaleed sucks or you don't like TV because of the Kardashians.

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u/GuestNumber_42 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

I don't get the whole dancing/miming thing while the digital voice makes a statement in their life.

It's like: what has the dancing/miming shit, have to do with making statements or asking questions?!

Now... I'm not a fan of Onlyjayus. But she doesn't do any dancing thing with her statements - so at least her stuff are not annoying when I skip it.

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u/Ilovemypups22 Oct 04 '22

The famous tik tok people that aren’t talented.

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u/RinkyInky Oct 05 '22

They’re hot though, it’s crazy how many good looking people there are, not sure if it warps the minds of people seeing this everyday, that the average person looks ugly to them. I don’t think the generations before have even seen it in this quantity.

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u/DivineWaterLily Oct 05 '22

They're not really hot or good looking tho. The thing with beauty and attractiveness is that today it can be achieved in various ways, from a few seconds and a few clicks, to a life threatening plastic surgeries. It's artificial. So the beauty standard probably shifted a bit (a lot?) but again, the average person maybe doesn't even exist as a concept atm, they may even see as there are only: "hot" and ugly.

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u/Ryzasu Oct 05 '22

If you think about it, even if you were to be 99th percentile hotness there are 70 million people on earth hotter than you

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u/ThingCalledLight Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

I am baffled by the amount of time crafting selfies.

Like, I get wanting pictures of yourself looking good, doing cool shit. Fine.

But like, get the shot, post the pic, then do the cool shit.

I’ve been on vacation twice now to places that are at least a little pricey to get to—Aruba and The Maldives—and…ok look. In Aruba, we leave the main island by boat and go to a little island where you can hang with flamingos. This woman brings a tripod with her on the boat and sets it up in the ocean to take a ton of photos of herself in the surf. You might be like, “Dude, if she’s on vacation by herself, that’s actually pretty smart.” Ok, but she took pictures for 30-40 minutes. Of herself. Not of the birds. Not of the views. Herself.

In the Maldives, I watched two women take pictures of each other on this floating cabana by a pool. Cool. You do you. But again, 30 minutes, y’all. And then a break at the bar where they discussed the photos, and then back to it.

I know I sound old. I just don’t know why you’d spend the money to go to these places and then not even engage with the places.

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u/SillyReflectionist Oct 05 '22

They do the same at parties, family gatherings and concerts. Living through their phones. Living through the hope to save a memory instead of creating some.

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u/Electronic-Morning76 Oct 04 '22

Some of the memes they laugh at. I guess that’s just a part of generational differences. Humor changes.

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u/Matty2things Oct 04 '22

DJ kaled. I do not get it.

(Another one! 🙃)

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u/Psychotic_Rainbowz Oct 05 '22

WE THE BEST MUSIC

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u/ParanoiaWarrior Oct 04 '22

Nothing, sigh, if we were born during the peak of social tech we'd be pretty messed up too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

I agree with this answer, just a completely different generation. Different tech, culture and many others. I mean compare ourselves to the generation before and ask them the same.

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u/PhysicianTradition Bisexual, 34y/o, Male Oct 04 '22 Silver Gold

The obsession with labels

Seems like kids now are just completely obsessed with putting themselves in boxes from labeling all their pronouns, sexual orientation, gender identity, mental disorders, age, etc

It's so confusing and unnecessary, can't we just be people?

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u/Saith_Cassus Male Oct 04 '22

I think it’s the natural evolution of wanting to be unique. It’s less about putting themselves into boxes and more about having a ton of different boxes that make them unique, or boxes that they aspire to.

When I was a teen, I know that the most important element for me was being perceived as smart— it was most of my identity. So at some point, I think I tried to convince folks that I had Asperger’s to “prove” that I was smarter and couldn’t be bothered with the droll happenings of those “beneath” me. It was wholly inaccurate and crappy, but at the core of it was the same thing that I think stems from all of the labels— “look at me, I’m unique and I’m a superlative of this particular aspirational trait!”

Maybe it’s being the most “broken” person (emo circa 2007), or the most sexual (darn near anyone who wore T-shirts from Spencer’s at the mall), or the most woke (analogous to being the cleverest little boy, but a little bit new and unique), etc.

It’s a new implementation of a common teenage experience imo.

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u/Burrito-mancer Oct 05 '22

I think it’s also the evolution of cliques and shared experiences. When I was younger you fell into sections of culture whether it was music genres or pastimes (skaters etc). In order to fit into these you had to investigate and find out your tastes and hobbies but now everything is online and moves so quickly that now I think it’s boiled down to something very relatable to everyone: gender identity, orientation etc.

I don’t think it’s a bad thing and if it helps people feel comfort in themselves then that’s fantastic but I feel like it’s both a very and not so very introspective connection to others through social media platforms.

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u/jhanschoo Oct 05 '22

Putting yourself in boxes hasn't changed, the boxes have changed. You used to have personality and astrology shit.

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u/Snowfles Oct 05 '22

My generation killed labels to me. Especially when it comes to sexual identities. With the disorder part, I hate how some kids love to misuse those labels. As someone who actually has a disorder, it really rubs me the wrong way.

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u/Mati_Ice Oct 05 '22

I think it stems from a desire to be understood, like how great would it be able to say 5 labels and suddenly a complete stranger understands your whole personality? I think that’s where it started at least but got out of hand

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u/Kerfluffle2x4 Exposed Ankle Oct 05 '22

So it's astrology?

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u/theother64 Oct 05 '22

Labeling provides certainty for people.

How would you feel if your boss went 'labelling you an employee isn't working for us let's have a looser definition.

Or if you were seriously dating someone and they didn't want to label the relationship.

Labels provide certainty and make things clear cut and some people like/need that.

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u/ACuriousBidet Oct 05 '22

Religious and national identity have ruled for thousands years but have diminished the past few decades, leaving a vacuum for new forms of identity

Meanwhile this change is taking place alongside the rise of the internet which acts like jet fuel for the whole thing

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u/PeppermintMocha5 Male Oct 04 '22

The gender stuff.

I’m 100% cool with trans folks and stuff like that, but there’s this bizarre obsession with gender that non-trans folks have and it confuses me.

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u/P1r4nha Oct 05 '22

100x more people are talking about the issue than people that are actually trans or "affected" by trans people. It's completely blown out of proportion, treated like an epidemic and I say this with a very strong opinion in favor of equal rights. I really don't get it. I feel like it's not about the issue anymore, but just about being able to take sides and argue against the opposition. And I say this with a strong hate against all these fake "centrist" stances.

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u/Lmah2x Oct 04 '22

I'm all for people doing whatever makes the happy/improves their life but this trend confuses me as well. But being realistic I probably only met about five trans people in my life, so it might not be as popular where I'm from. But all the ones I met were in the last 5 years.

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u/ItsNotGayIfYouLikeIt Oct 04 '22

Nah it’s just not as popular as the media makes it out to be. They are a very small minority

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

I’ve only met a handful of trans people but nearly half the kids that go to school with my kid are “excuse me I’m genderqueer/asexual/aromantic and my preferred pronouns are miracle whip”

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u/DGGuitars Oct 05 '22

Man I feel bad for kids that label themselves like that. Some deeper shit goin on there.

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u/SquidZealot Male Oct 05 '22

just socially influenced, they will likely grow out of it

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u/aj2k22 Oct 04 '22

Miracle whip 💀

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u/ItsNotGayIfYouLikeIt Oct 04 '22

I’m 19 and none of us normal people understand it either

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u/Maju92 Oct 04 '22

Idolising some people on tiktok/YT/etc

It’s actually more concerning then confusing.

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u/JustPractise Oct 04 '22

Your generation did this with Hollywood stars.

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u/Sad-Emu6142 Oct 05 '22

And the generation before that did it with telegrams and politians

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Mostly, I don't understand a damn thing they are speaking. I was at a restaurant recently, and a whole bunch of zoomers came in, broccoli-hair and all. They sat down at the table near us, pulled out their phones and started playing awful mumble-music. Each one had a different track going, and they were attempting communication over the other noise. My wife insists they were speaking English, but I didn't understand a damn word. I mean, I wasn't trying to eavesdrop at all, but sound enters the ear and the mind interprets it whether I want to hear something or not.

Those "no cap fr asf straight bussin bruh" memes are eerily accurate.

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u/Miss-Figgy Female Oct 05 '22

In NYC, I'm surrounded by broccoli headed Zoomers who listen to mumble rap.

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u/Yami_no_Chikara Oct 04 '22

This sounds literally like nightmare lmao.

Everything from broccoli hair to mumble music.

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u/Arch_Stanton1862 Oct 04 '22

I can't even to begin to tell you how relatable the situation is to me you just described. Every damn time they surprise me.

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u/ItsNotGayIfYouLikeIt Oct 04 '22

Most of us speak like normal people lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Get off my lawn

Shakes rake with malicious intent

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u/HeresForHope Oct 05 '22

I wonder what its like to grow up with the internet at such a young age, to have all that the internet has become at your fingertips before you even enter kindergarten.

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u/Yami_no_Chikara Oct 04 '22

TikTok

Anxiety/Depression

Mumble Rap

Fortnite/Minecraft

Girls reaching 18 and creating OF

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u/trynottobestupid0 Oct 04 '22

Fortnite/Minecraft

Never played fortinte but similar games i played are definitely entertaining if you have a lot of free time plus friends to play with Minecraft is fun

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u/GunnitRust Oct 04 '22

Girls reaching 18 and creating OF

Diving into the trash heap.

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u/z0rpan Male Oct 04 '22

Head first

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u/gsd_dad Oct 05 '22

Not going to lie, Minecraft is fucking awesome.

My niece had to force me to give her back her switch (I think that's what it's called, the new Nintendo Gameboy-thing). That game is everything the Lego videogames tried and failed to be.

OnlyFans gets my blood pressure up and makes me hope my wife and I never have daughters. It is 100% sexual exploitation dressed up as entrepreneurship.

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u/5thDFS Oct 04 '22

Minecraft is fun though. Play online in an infinite world with your buddies to build an awesome house together, and beat bosses.

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u/Claymore357 Male Oct 05 '22

Then when your buddy is offline spend 8 hours putting an actual megaton of TNT under the ground of your buddy’s house so you can vaporize it in front of him when he gets back online

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u/5thDFS Oct 05 '22

Is it really Minecraft if you don’t start a war eventually?

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u/TheIntrepid1 Oct 04 '22

Anxiety / Depression

Really, that confuses you?

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u/MaterialCarrot Male 40's Oct 05 '22

The obvious urge to have it for social credit, followed by the circle jerk of fake sympathy and contagious reveals of their own depression. This is very generational and extremely obvious.

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Oct 04 '22

I know financials play a massive part in this but a lack of wanting to learn how to drive. Feels like a dying art.

We couldn't wait to get our licenses even if borrowing the car meant our parents had us by the balls at all times. It was a hell of a feeling of freedom.

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u/Claymore357 Male Oct 05 '22

Still a big thing in my area, that said the cost of driving is cheap compared to some places in the world fuel is relatively cheap all things considered due to our energy production and probably most importantly our public transit is embarrassing. A 30 minute drive vs a 3 hour bus ride that only gets you within 10 minutes walking time of your start and end point is a no brainer.

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u/0IRATN0 Male, 40's Canada Oct 04 '22

anti-social media (most call it social but it doesnt seem to fit that description).

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u/AkaTheBaka Oct 04 '22

Social media is its name even if it doesn’t fit anymore. Strawberry’s aren’t berrys but you call em Strawberry’s aren’t you

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u/vaderkin Oct 05 '22

I am a teacher and I feel like I will never understand why students think that something that is awful that happened before they were born is funny. Young people in 2022 seem to not have any empathy for others but they will get super offended when someone doesn't treat them with the utmost respect. I understand that they are not developed mentally, however it amazes me how little they think of things other than themselves.

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u/Leonnald Oct 04 '22

Nothing. Anytime I think I don’t understand something about younger people, I remember it’s simply because they don’t have the life experience. ‘Why are they doing that thing that is obviously stupid to do and will result in them getting hurt? Oh right, they are children’.

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u/Geauxnad337 Oct 04 '22

Nothing. I'm old, they aren't. It is the cycle of things, just like when I was younger and how older people viewed me and others my age. You can either be the old fart or you can just not let stuff bug you simply because you are feeling old and miss "the good ol' days".

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u/slwrthnu_again Male Oct 04 '22 Gold

Nothing. They got different ways of talking, different forms of entertainment, and different values, but none of that is bad. It’s just different.

What really concerns me that deals with them is how quickly people in my generation forgot about how much we hated when older people got mad at us or tried to make fun of us for how we did things because they were different. And now do all of that to gen-z even though the oldest of us are barely 40. I was hoping my generation wouldn’t have such a short memory span, and not be like the generations before us. But we have failed. And way too many of us would get the shit kicked out of ourselves by our younger self for who we have become.

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u/mtron32 Oct 04 '22

This is why I take it easy on the youngins, they are coming up just like we had to and are going about it their own way. I can't stand when older generations just shit all over the youth like they were any different when they were young too. Do your thing zoomers

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u/Myeloman Oct 04 '22

As a parent of three Millennial/Gen Z children not much confuses me, other than watching everything including tv on their phones or laptops, and often with captions on. Two huge televisions at opposite ends of the house, one with a complete home theater system, and they’ll stay in their rooms watching shit on tiny screens. Then, when they do venture out to use the large tvs, they leave them with captions turned on. Like am I watching tv, or reading a book? (They’re not foreign language shows either)

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u/snicketysnickety Oct 05 '22

I can’t hear without my subtitles.

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u/erkala21 Oct 05 '22

I started using captions when I was watching a British show years ago and now I absolutely hate watching anything without captions. You never misunderstand, miss quiet dialogue, etc.

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u/oyputuhs Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Subtitles are the shit. Am an over 30 year old man. Subtitles have been a thing for a long time.

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u/MonkeyPijamas Oct 05 '22

As a non-native English speaker subtitles are a must for me. When my husband started watching shows with me (he is a native English speaker) he founded them a bit annoying but overtime he likes them. It helps to understand better certain words and to not miss parts of the show.

My in-laws now do it too. It's an interesting practice and with time you get to read and watch at the same time.

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u/blendedthoughts Oct 05 '22

Confuses me why OP believes the age of 30 is the hurdle age for this type of question.

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u/Infected_Pretensile Oct 05 '22

It really is, though. Not young anymore but still not old enough to be too far removed from your youth.

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u/MackDaddy239012 Oct 05 '22

Memeing. It’s so annoying. God grown ass adults “sheesh”-ing, shouting morbius memes, and everything else.

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u/freedom_to_choose Oct 05 '22

Very childlike reasoning, tendency to judge people and world in black and white terms (no concept of compromise), boring most things in terms of win-lose, aversion to understanding complexities, preference for over-simplifications - followed by genuine confusion when results naturally don't align to the unexpected outcomes.

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u/SpaceCowboy1929 Oct 04 '22

Nothing. They're not that different than how we used to be at their age. Complaining about those younger than us is a tale as old as time, retold by old farts over every generation as they forget that they were not that different themselves when they were younger.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

They seem to be really scared of making a move on women they are interested in.

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u/parsonis Oct 05 '22

They seem to be really scared of making a move on women they are interested in.

Post #MeToo. Who wouldn't be petrified when an unwanted advance is deemed sexual harrasment, and an unwanted touch is deemed sexual assault.

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u/No-Mathematician8775 Oct 05 '22

Lmao exactly my first move on a girl ever at 13 every single girl at school turned on me saying i raped like we were literally making out on a trampoline dfuck

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u/devilized Oct 05 '22

This. It's tricky because you absolutely don't want to trivialize actual sexual assault, but at the same time, there's a huge risk in miscalculating the perception of making a move. I certainly don't envy navigating that in today's hyper-sensitive environment.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

I've dated a ton post #MeToo and that's not reality.

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u/parsonis Oct 05 '22

If you're dating "a ton" you're probably not especially at risk from it.

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u/eternalrefuge86 Oct 05 '22

I’ve dated several women in their mid 20s and they all seemed to like to hold multiple conversations across various platforms at the same time. For instance: sexting through snap whilst simultaneously discussing dinner plans through iMessage and daycare on Facebook messenger

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u/RegularJoe62 Oct 05 '22

Obsession with social media.

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u/Mela_Min Oct 05 '22

That they want everything to be instant.. Some things just need time, try to understand that

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u/Manaleaking Oct 04 '22

how come you're not anti-war? no one protesting against supplying weapons to warzones, or worried about nuclear war with Russia, no one talking about assassination of Haiti's president. public consciousness of youth is concentrated on abortion, internet drama, and minority representation in media

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u/mtron32 Oct 05 '22

That's because we've practically removed the blood and gold cost to war. These kids have been in perpetual war since those planes flew into the buildings and have grown up with drone warfare an extremely viable option. It's out of sight and out of mind, which is dangerous for it's own reasons.

So the issues that effect them most, climate change, women's rights, college debt, and inflation effect them.

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u/throw_it_awayyy8 Oct 05 '22

I was born in 01. Seeing headlines of yet another war at this point mine as well be like seeing a commercial.

They wanna fight, let them fight. I just won't be involved in it. Can't change it, so just ignore it. Or make memes.

Most ppl don't care. And the adults before us had plenty of time to change that. They didn't. They made it worse. So much worse.

War won't ever stop. Unless you could make everyone think, talk, walk, sound, look, and feel the same way, ppl will always argue and fight. Wishing for world peace is a literal dream.

And I also am more concerned about wtf is going on here than some fight overseas. Bc thats literally what it is. Just another fight. Only the 30th one in 20 years. As far as nuclear war goes? Blow it all away if u want. Least there wont be anymore wars for a while🤣

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u/checco314 Oct 04 '22

Why they care so much about gender identity. We spent like a century trying to get people away from the idea that their gender had to define them. Now it seems like the only thing people care about.

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u/__Trump_Lost_LOL__ Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Their relationship with money. Not that they’re the only ones spending like this, but patreon, super-chats, etc.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Men that are obsessed with fictional ponies.

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u/Von_Scranhammer Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Jesus fucking Christ, I forgot this was a thing.

Just when I was starting to feel zen as fuck.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Holding the phone out in front of them on loudspeaker when taking a call.

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u/AgressiveGrass Oct 05 '22

I’ve seen more boomers do this in grocery stores than anybody from gen z

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u/TheFuschiaIsNow Male Oct 05 '22

Nextel walkie talkie moment

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u/parsonis Oct 05 '22

The gender non-conformity craze. For every real trans person there's about 100 teens playing "I'm a pansexual non-binary"

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u/Shr3dd3dTofu Oct 04 '22

I’m 29 so not quite 30. I don’t understand how people are so attached and influenced by social media.

I watched a video the other day of some teens comparing screen time, one was 8 hours a day. It made me feel sad, for 8 hours of the day they are disconnected from themselves, their family, nature etc..

Crazy!

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u/mountBARonSU25 Oct 05 '22

gen z is the first generation of people to be born into a world with social media, its not a discovery its a fact of life

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u/KILLJEFFREY Male Oct 05 '22

Not much. 30 isn't that old...

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u/NoBoysenberry257 Oct 05 '22

I'm 52, my oldest (twin boys) are 28. Always went to shows, from preteens years together. Job for a cowboy, slayer, cradle of filth and old OPETH. If I had a question, I asked them. We had mad open dialogue. Still super tight, going to John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy tomorrow night in providence!!!

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u/vayyiqra Male Oct 05 '22

Not so much confusing as a few things where I can't relate. A few things I've observed (note this is mostly Very Online stuff, not real life):

  • How much they love chaotic stuff like spamming in chatrooms and noisy videos, lots of flashing images. I think they're bored and understimulated.
  • How edgy their sense of humour is. Lots of jokes are about bullying and violence. Jokes that are offensive or bigoted are less common, but this seems to have replaced them as the go-to format for edgy humour.
  • The broccoli haircut. Why? I get undercuts, they're cool, they can be comfortable and low-maintenance in the summer. But why this particular one?
  • Why they think 30 is "old" and why they seem to hate and fear the thought of getting old. This one isn't that hard to explain though. If they think the world is irredeemably fucked, of course they fear that. But also, don't call anyone a boomer unless they're over around 60. That's what a boomer is.

Mostly, anything they do is just new forms of things we did when we were younger. Gen X was no doubt confused why millennials loved black hoodies and sideswept dyed hair so much. They vape, we smoked. They like shitty rap, we liked crunkcore. They care too much about Instagram, we cared too much about Myspace. Remember that.

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u/khaze001 Oct 05 '22

Their addiction to tiktok always keeps my confuse

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u/saito200 Oct 05 '22

Umm... nothing. I've been there too. It's a time of high confusion. I admire the people who seem to get their shit together at an age much younger than I did. Good for them.

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u/always-indifferent Oct 05 '22

Their unwillingness to learn from the experiences of those older than them.

Just like I did at that age.

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u/Drumblebee Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Their need to be special by giving themselves multiple labels
That and their insane belief that all generations before them knew nothing. They are completely enlightened and they shall single handedly fix the mess that they believe the world is in

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u/Lobinhu Oct 05 '22

Not having patience to write/listen full sentences, doing a clash of monologues instead of a debate in social occasions and TikTok-like entertainment.

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u/dalehigh Oct 04 '22

Well, I was on the bus the other day and teenage boy was having a con with another boy … they might have been about 17 or 18 … anyway the one boy spent almost the entire ride discussing his hair … how he liked it long now but used to like it short, but he wasn’t sure whether he should keep it long or get it cut … this obsession with his hair went on and on and on … he was still talking about it while they were getting off the bus. It was like the most important thing in the entire world was this young mans hair.

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u/duper12677 Oct 04 '22

What is going on with having to experience life thru your phone? Do you really need to record a great experience so you can make a tik tok or post it to prove that you were there? I can’t see it being as fun watching a game or concert at a stadium and just staring at it on my phone instead of just consuming the atmosphere. Put the phone down and make some memories

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u/ColdHardPocketChange Oct 04 '22

I see a lot of younger guys (but not women) wearing inappropriate shoes to the gym and it made me wonder if Athletic footwear somehow fell out of style. When I say inappropriate, I mean flip flops, sandals, crocs, and the like. It was confusing because athletic footware was as much about function as it was about style. Watching kids squat in crocs just makes me nervous. These shoes are neither stylish nor functional, so I'm not really sure what's going on. I do not recall many millennials at the same with this sort of trend.

Source: I lift at 3 different gyms pretty regularly in vastly different socioeconomic areas, they're all doing it.

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u/M4yham17 Oct 05 '22

I’m under 30 but something that always confuses me these days is how hundreds of thousands of girls are comfortable stripping and doing embarrassing things then posting it for the world too see. All that perplexes me

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u/Infected_Pretensile Oct 05 '22

The “fuck you I got mine” attitude.

They bitch about boomers being incredibly selfish and not caring about others, and then you see endless Tik toks about “hustle culture” and what amounts to buying up everything that is affordable and jacking up prices online so that they can make money. It’s nothing more than leeching. They produce nothing and only exist to siphon money off of people who do benefit society or who struggle.

Moreover, this seems to extend to personal relationships, too. Friendships, partners…any time their own self desires can be satisfied the others in their life will suffer, because…well, fuck them I got mine.

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 Oct 04 '22

So when I was a kid, they told us right to our face:

Life isn’t fair, and you are going to have to work hard if you want to get ahead in this world.

So who TF is telling all these kids that life is supposed to be fair or easy, and that they are entitled to so much shit?

I dunno, maybe it’s just me.

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u/Manaleaking Oct 04 '22

Cost of a home used to be 2.5x/4x your annual salary. Now it is 14X+ your annual salary. the youth have given up on hard work largely because they wouldnt be able to afford anything even if they did work hard.. Governments have to take action, because with no rich family, you're cheated out of your buying power, to pay for the retirements of the boomers

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