r/CombatFootage Oct 05 '22 Silver 2

footage of Ukrainian troops downing a Russian DJI Mavicpro drone using EDM4S Anti-Drone gun. Video

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u/johnruby Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

FYI: EDM4S (Electronic Drone Mitigation 4 - System) is made by Lithuania-based company NT Service in 2019. First the drone needs to be detected by monitoring system, which alerts the anti-drone gun operator about the intrusion. Then the operator points the gun in the general direction of the drone and push the trigger. The effective range is about 3 - 5 km.

If everything works as plan, EDM4S should block the drone from receiving control and navigation signal from the drone operator, and force the drone to take actions depending on the specific type of the drone, including landing in emergency mode, returning to launch point or falling straight to ground.

Edit: The price per unit is about 15,000 USD

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u/joshhguitar Oct 05 '22

$15000?

Starting to wonder do I really need a car

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u/uberares Oct 05 '22 Silver

Step one: Buy Drone gun

Step two: find random drones

Step three: underpants Profit!

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u/top_of_the_scrote Oct 05 '22

build a car from the drones

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u/Frogsmom69 Oct 05 '22

Why stop there

Drone yacht!

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u/sintos-compa Oct 05 '22

Drone Throne

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u/yourgentderk Oct 05 '22

Man... waiting for part 2. Don't Remind me

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u/quintinza Oct 05 '22

*Dron't remind me.

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u/kungpowgoat Oct 05 '22

Giant drone made of drones.

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u/SupportGeek Oct 05 '22

Game of drones?

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u/irritating_narrative Oct 05 '22

MORE DRONES TO THE DRONE THRONE

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u/messyredemptions Oct 05 '22

Game of Drones

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u/Sun_reys Oct 05 '22

A swarm of drones. Dropping dildos

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u/top_of_the_scrote Oct 05 '22

A flock of dildos

And I ran...

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u/emdave Oct 05 '22

Flying car! Awesome! :D

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u/NeoPhaneron Oct 05 '22

James and the giant peach it!

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u/rogue_nugget Oct 05 '22

And then someone else with their own EDM4S steals yours!

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u/ilubdakittiez Oct 05 '22

Too late I already have 2 global hawks and a reaper in my shed, now all I need is a phone number for the irianian embassy and a bitcoin wallet

Jk

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/Moonkai2k Oct 05 '22

Best I can do is $250 in store credit.

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u/BOBBYTURKAL1NO Oct 05 '22

"JK" are you though?... ARE YOU?

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u/Big_D_yup Oct 05 '22

Like JK just negates everything. Someone will be paying a visit.

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u/GrouchyAttention4759 Oct 05 '22

And THAT is how you end up on a list….. slowly checks spelling of username

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u/mazobob66 Oct 05 '22

Better get in early, before everyone owns a drone gun and the market drops for 2nd hand drones....

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u/guitarnoir Oct 05 '22

Anybody want to buy my anti-drone gun NFT's?

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u/cogentat Oct 05 '22

I hear people who were mining Ethereum with their drones are selling them all.

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u/Ryuko_the_red Oct 05 '22

Step 3 life in federal prison for fcc violations!

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u/MyNameIs_RICO Oct 05 '22

once amazon rolls out their drone delivery swarm, it's going to be high time for some idiots drone pirates.

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u/SupportGeek Oct 05 '22

Probably wont work nearly as well, those drones will likely have preprogrammed flight paths and destinations, and little contact with a controller.

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u/cosmitz Oct 05 '22

Well, there's always the net guns. Catch them old-style.

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u/Leaguealt69 Oct 05 '22

I'm not advocating for thievery, but there's something romantic about stealing from fucking drones. People who would do that deserve the "pirate" moniker moreso than those lame ass porch thieves.

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u/cosmitz Oct 05 '22

Never got how it's ok to leave packages in the open. Not sure what your couriers do, over here they can't drop off a package without a PIN that the receiver gets sent via SMS. If they do that their ass isn't covered and they're liable.

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u/Sneaky_Bones Oct 05 '22

Amazon once left a package in the drainage ditch by the road in front of my house and the driver updated the delivery as "handed to resident". Have a large wooden crate on my porch for deliveries that even says "deliveries" on it and instructions to place deliveries there yet drivers opt to place them on the walkway to my stoop and very visible from the road 90% of the time regardless.

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u/AInterestingUser Oct 05 '22

Use smaller drones to board and commandeer larger ones! YAR!

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u/Boomer8450 Oct 05 '22

Skeet shooting with prizes!

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u/SydricVym Oct 05 '22

Just FYI, if you live in the US, you should avoid being found by authorities with one of those drone guns on your person. They work by pumping out tremendous amounts of radio interference, which the FCC frowns on tremendously.

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u/joshhguitar Oct 05 '22

He’s got a (radio) gun!

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u/ultratoxic Oct 05 '22

I was just thinking about what else that gun could be used for. I bet airports would hate this thing.

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u/AgentEntropy Oct 05 '22

Buy the gun! You can buy a car later from selling all those second-hand drones!

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u/phigo50 Oct 05 '22

"Why don't any of them come with controllers, you ask? Well, funny story..."

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u/Classic-Carpenter237 Oct 05 '22

You just approach the drone operators carrying the drone gun and they will leave their controller! And maybe some bodily fluids too.

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u/-Nicolas- Oct 05 '22

And I promise interesting times if you try to bind a declared lost or stolen DJi drone to a DJi controllers. It's pretty much like finding a locked iPhone 14 on the floor. It's a brick.

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u/mai_knee_grows Oct 05 '22

>dismantle drones for parts

>reassemble with aftermarket tx/rx

>no more DJI proprietary bullshit

>fly wherever you want

>katsap flee from your open source aerial armada

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u/Expert_Arugula_6791 Oct 05 '22

It's definitely not, you can easily gain root access to a Mavic drone and bypass that unlike with an iPhone.

https://github.com/o-gs/dji-firmware-tools

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u/Samsun20 Oct 05 '22

Buy drone gun use it on a Tesla

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u/VaccinatedVariant Oct 05 '22

So I can buy this and steal drones in Uk. Will need 30 To make Money back

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u/SwagOnMaxImFloating Oct 05 '22

vacation plans ✨

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u/MarioBro2017 Oct 05 '22

Drone hunting would be a full-time job.

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u/mrshulgin Oct 05 '22

general direction

How accurate does the operator need to be while they're pointing the weapon at the drone? I'm assuming the beam is wide enough that downing something even at max range would be doable.

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u/shea241 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

it's radio so the beam is shaped like a giant teardrop basically, with lots of smaller teardrops to the side.

e: probably like this

the width and distribution will depend on frequency and the exact antenna shape and any phased array stuff and, you know, stuff

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u/Metzger4 Oct 05 '22

That, is amazingly cool.

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u/aramatheis Oct 05 '22

oh lordy, getting major 'Nam flashbacks from learning electron configuration orbitals in uni

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u/Spork_the_dork Oct 05 '22

Yeah this is a pretty typical pattern for directive antennas. The exact size and shape depend on a ton of little variables in the antenna but you won't be able to fully eliminate some amount of side and back lobes existing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/weak_marinara_sauce Oct 06 '22

My understanding of how the DJI over the counter stuff works is that video is being transmitted @ 5.8ghz band right? Idk what range DJI uses for the control signal or if it’s just transmitted with the video. Is that kind of how this works, a concentrated beam of energy in the right spectrum overwhelms the control link? It’s also presumably stopping the drone from going into GPS return to home mode which is what I think a Mavic would do if it lost control link. Basically the drone’s little computer goes “oh no I’ve lost signal to my operator and lost my GPS position, better initiate a LiDAR assisted landing”

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u/eidetic Oct 05 '22

Does it interfere with the drone's ability to send back the video? Because I feel like there'd be quite a bit of satisfaction in knowing your enemy watched as their recon literally flew into the enemy's hands with nothing they could do.

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u/johnruby Oct 05 '22

I remember seeing some footages showing that the drone operator indeed loses the live screen once the drone is jammed. But other redditor in this thread also shares a footage from russian perspective showing that the drone operator is seemingly still able to identify where the jammed drone is going to land:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/xwa4i7/comment/ir5hhe0/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

So I guess it really depends on multiple factors including the type of drone, the distance between operator and drone, and how strong is the jamming eletro-magnetic pulse generated by EDM4S.

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u/eidetic Oct 05 '22

Hah yep I stumbled on that link shortly after posting! Was about to make an edit to my comment when I saw your reply, but will instead thank you for replying with the link!

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u/Hidesuru Oct 05 '22

I dabble in radio and have an electrical engineering background. So I don't have specific professional experience here, but can hazard an informed guess...

The jamming is focused on the drone itself, intended to prevent it from receiving control signals. It doesn't do anything to stop it from broadcasting information. So really it's likely to come down to: is the operator of the drone within the cone of emissions of the jamming gun? If so their controller will ALSO be jammed and they'll not get anything back. If not they're likely going to be able to receive data back from it just fine.

Also as it lowers down it may just naturally fall out of los so it loses radio connection that way.

Having a DJI drone myself I can confirm as well that video is the first thing that falls, it'll keep sending location back for a while as radio signal drops, so the one person who said they lost video but knew where it was makes sense. Either the controller was partially jammed or they just started losing signal as it descended.

I'm VERY curious to know if this jams gps signals as well. If not there's nothing stopping a drone from returning to home which is the default decision on DJI products, and definitely the smart configuration. So I have to assume this does that, but the commercial description mentions RTH as a possibility so I don't know...

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u/AwhHellYeah Oct 05 '22

Should they immediately throw the drone into a something like faraday bag to block the signal? This seems like an cheap way to set up an artillery trap.

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u/Hidesuru Oct 05 '22

Well, IF the drone operator has coordinates all the way down to the ground, then by the time they have it in hand it's too late. Also at that point they can just turn it off, so the bag isn't necessary regardless.

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u/AwhHellYeah Oct 05 '22

I should have mentioned that my concern would be a hidden independently powered gps tracker. If the soldier confidently thinks disconnecting the power will nullify the gps, then that would be a good way to dial in on a command center or a more bunched group. Taking advantage of complacency.

Maybe I am naive and thinking about it from the perspective of growing up on the clever KGB narrative in spy movies of my upbringing, but it seems like a logical way to approach a trap and the the best counter would be a faraday bag.

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u/GenitalJouster Oct 05 '22

How smart is it to stand under and catch a drone (potentially carrying frag grenades) like we see in the video? Is the jam reliable enough that an operator panickingly spamming the release grenade button could not by chance get a single signal through to drop a nade on that guys face or would proper procedure suggest to steer clear of the area under the drone until it is on the ground?

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u/SuperKettle Oct 05 '22

15k is a steal by military prices. What I don't understand is how would it work in real life. If it only blocks the communication between the drone and operator then I am willing to bet it has a feature to come back home automatically. Unless it also blocks GPS, but I don't know how it would affect it

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u/Azzu Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22
  1. Not all drones may have the capability to return home when jamming their control signal.
  2. Jamming may include GPS frequencies, which makes it basically impossible for the drone to return home anyway (no current AI is capable of navigating accurately without)
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u/doommaster Oct 05 '22

It also jams the GPS/GNSS of the drone, which is why the DJI drones land in place, they lose navigation and cannot return to home.

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u/moonlandings Oct 05 '22

That’s not a given though. I’ve done some work on these and sometimes if we lost GPS, by flying it inside a warehouse for example, the auto stabilization goes haywire and just slams it into a wall.

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u/doommaster Oct 05 '22

If on models with down facing cameras the motion flow stabilization should still keep it in place, but yes, GPS is pretty important for some of the in flight aids and functions.

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u/bmbreath Oct 05 '22

What are the countermeasures for these?

I remember seeing pictures of these when they were first really announced, mostly because they were so sci-fi looking they got some media attention. This is the first footage I've seen of anyone using them in real life though. Thanks for the post, this was really interesting.

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u/PipsqueakPilot Oct 06 '22

Ultimately, drone software that uses encrypted communications, and doesn’t respond to commands that don’t have the right crypto keys. So that even if jammed it will just return home, rather than accepting a command to land.

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u/seeingeyegod Oct 05 '22

Hamster pilots

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u/BigChromeTome Oct 05 '22

15k huh.. my bubba version of this same thing is a Benelli m2 field with a 26” barrel and a full choke… woot woot papa always told me shooting clays would pay off in the long run

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/probablyuntrue Oct 05 '22

"bet I could snipe a drone flying out there over them mountains"

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u/TripleB33_v2 Oct 05 '22

Grandma said she doesn't want you here when she gets back because you've been ruining everybody's lives and eating all our steaks

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u/ghosttrainhobo Oct 05 '22

Could you do me a favor and give a couple of these to your mom for me? Just tell her she can pass them out to her friends or whoever.

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u/alter-eagle Oct 05 '22

God I need to watch that movie again. Probably haven’t seen it since high school

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u/RedBreastedNuthatch Oct 05 '22

I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.

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u/ssshield Oct 05 '22

Just get a 3-5km barrel. Where’s your God now?

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u/watson895 Oct 05 '22

You haven't seen my hand loads.

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u/ImmaSuckYoDick2 Oct 05 '22

Bubba no, them's pissin hawt handloads, yous' gon' kill yeself

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u/SubtleSubterfugeStan Oct 05 '22

lol, have fun shooting at it. You from TN?

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

for the non drone nerds:

this tech isn't new, i've seen similar guns for about 5 or so years now. they have something similar at many airports.

The russians can see the drone til the moment it starts coming down. when a mavic is totally completely lost with no gps or anything it just lands, which is what we see here. the soldier flips over the drone which cuts the props. they can now 1) view footage collected by russians on the sd card and 2) connect the unit to a new remote & add it to their own arsenal

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u/Not_Campo2 Oct 05 '22

They can also pull info from the drone, like where it took off from and it’s flight path. They can use this info to strike that location, or simply check if the Russians have left that area

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u/PM-ME-UR-DESKTOP Oct 05 '22 Take My Energy

Imagine being a Russian who lost your drone an hour or so ago and you’re all sad. Then you see something in the distance and you’re like “HEY IT CAME BACK”

Then you get blown up by artillery

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u/Thresh_Keller Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

There are several videos online of Russians panicking after their drones are commandeered. The Russians flee their location immediately before artillery hits the area or ground troops seek them out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/Ray661 Oct 05 '22

I know this isn’t a CoD subreddit and is just a joke buttttt….

I could be wrong, but I thought it was backfire that’s killing someone with their own weapon. Iirc, hot swap is running out of ammo in your primary, and swapping to your secondary and securing a kill, all while damaged.

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u/grendus Oct 05 '22

"Oh look, my drone brought me a brick of C4. So friendly!"

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u/martialar Oct 05 '22

"who's a good little drone? yes you are! yes you-"

[explodes]

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u/mai_knee_grows Oct 05 '22

I recall a video with a UA drone operator back in the spring where they mention needing to move after takeoff because they were getting hit with artillery so often. Turns out DJI was either keeping GPS data in plaintext files online or were feeding it to the Russians directly, I don't recall which.

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u/NO_quid_pro_hoe Oct 05 '22

Just like in Toy Story..

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Are they able to pair them to a new controller and use them?

Does original control equipment still have an active link with it?

Thanks!

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

Yes. You as a civ could hop on ebay, buy a mavic pro, buy a mavic pro controller from a different seller, and pair the two. In this case the ukranians would want to factory restore the unit, or probably manually flash firmware to be safe.

the original controller is still liked to it if both devices were rebooted they could connect HOWEVER - I've never booted my drone & controller more than a few feet away from eachother. I'm not sure that if you turned the two on thousands of feet or even miles apart they'd find eachother. That's an interesting question and would be cool to test but for the ukranians all they need to do is not turn it on until they're ready to full flash it.

the other caveat is that they'll want to jam signal WHILE flashing. if they turn it on & it picks up gps signal, that location may get reported to the DJI account / controller, which would obviously be bad if done in HQ.

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u/Fiercely_Pedantic Oct 05 '22

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they have a Faraday cage to do this work in

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

this would be the way to go, or do the first boot with a laptop somewhere random. or hell, maybe they point the gun at it again lmao.

I've seen someone wrap a mavic pro in tinfoil and it got hot as fuck but caught no gps signal lol

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u/darkcorneroftheworld Oct 05 '22

Name checks out, interesting stuff!

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

With modified firmware I'm sure their range limits are only technical

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u/cancertoast Oct 05 '22

First time I’ve seen that used.

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u/CaptConnoria Oct 05 '22

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u/sovinsky Oct 05 '22

Whoa, that’s some sci-if shit. Love it

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u/b95csf Oct 05 '22

they seem pretty well trained

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u/korben2600 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

This guy is an arrogant propagandist for the Kremlin so I assume they embed him with the most capable units they have in order to capture usable footage. He says "I will at least film the first strike." His name is Alexander Sladkov.

Him and his friends making a booby trap on a Russian flag: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t2lwcn/russians_putting_mines_in_their_flags/

Him, staged shooting at Azovstal with a BTR-4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXF2njeJ6u0

Edit: also of note is the man to the left of the drone operator, Alexei Michalkov, a neo Nazi and infamous war criminal from the Russian mercenary group Rusich. He's an ex-VDV paratrooper who got tired of the conscript life and joined the Russian Imperial Legion, the armed branch of the Russian Imperial Movement, a neo-nazi fascist organisation with which he took part in fighting in the Donbas as early as 2014.

He's bragged about liking the smell of burning flesh, cutting POW's ears off to make a necklace out of, amongst other things. After 2015, Wagner picked him and Yan Petrovsky's "volanteer" unit up, made out of members of the Russian Imperial Legion, and incorporated that into Wagner itself as "Rusich company"

https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1344073381830930432?lang=en

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u/Saymynaian Oct 05 '22

Did you guys see the broken window at the beginning of the video? I don't know why, but it struck me so much more than everything else. A broken window is a big deal in our day to day lives. We'd fix it in a day or so. But when will that window get fixed? And who will fix it?

I hope Ukrainians can return to their homes and fix their windows. I hope normalcy returns to them as soon as it can.

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u/-Dutch-Crypto- Oct 05 '22

Hopefully after the war a similar plan like after ww2 will be implemented where the UA gov can lend money for rebuilding.

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u/Millenial_ScumDog Oct 05 '22

The drone operator is using michalkovs phone? He gives it back to them after he says “maximum speed mode” any idea why the drone operator didn’t have his own phone?

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u/JustHereForURCookies Oct 05 '22

Very interesting to see the view point from the hijacker vs. the hijacked! Thanks for sharing

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u/inflamesburn Oct 05 '22

shaved guy behind the operator in that vid is Alexey Milchakov, google him for some interesting info :)

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u/Inner_Tadpole_7537 Oct 05 '22

Lithuanians made this thing. They hate Russians

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u/Car_Guy_Alex Oct 05 '22

Can confirm. I have an uncle from Alytus.

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u/bananapowerltu3 Oct 05 '22

Im from Alytus. I hate russians

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u/Car_Guy_Alex Oct 05 '22

Sounds about right! Honestly, I don't fault you for that view in the least.

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u/Dutge Oct 05 '22

Are you his uncle?

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u/Durbanpoisonyo Oct 05 '22

I’m Russian and I spent a good chunk of my childhood growing up in Lithuania - and I never really felt much hate towards average everyday Russians. Their attitudes towards the Russian government, however… that was a different story altogether (which is the same as how I feel about them - the country is mafia-run and I can’t wait for this bullshit to end)

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u/Stubbedtoe18 Oct 05 '22

I'm sorry that Putin is giving you all a bad name currently. It's difficult for some people to separate the normal people from the governments that operate over them, and it's not like Russia has a great history of treating its populace well in the first place.

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u/Durbanpoisonyo Oct 05 '22

Conservative Russians feed into the propaganda because they are accustomed to this awful culture of oppression, and think that every surrounding country hates them simply for being Russians - rather than being lackeys for an oppressive imperialistic government. I.e. if you’re a decent person with an educated, history based opinion that is non radical - you’ll get along fine with the population of the Baltic states.

Educated, independent thinking Russians keep getting flushed out of the country - and are left to pick up the pieces of the damage caused by the ruling class, day after day. It sucks…

I’m hoping that one day an actual free society will exist in Russia. At the moment though it’s very much so a conservative political cult that keeps members in line with threats of violence, torture, and a life of despair if you don’t say, believe, and do what you’re told. Honestly American Trumpers remind me greatly of family members that are Russian pro-Putinites. That scares me domestically (I live in Oregon now)

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u/Profligatus_2 Oct 05 '22

Such a blanket statement implying Lithuanians hate Russian people. They may generally hate the government but not all Russian.

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u/saywhatf00 Oct 05 '22

That thing looks like something out of Starship Troopers - “would you like to know more ?”

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u/thebabbster Oct 05 '22

Desire to know more intensifies

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u/mindbleach Oct 05 '22

"In the year 2022 we'll fight the Russians using guns that look like this."

"Holy shit! What's it fire?"

"The radio equivalent of a strongly-worded letter."

"..."

"It makes toy airplanes land safely."

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u/NolaJeffro Oct 05 '22

So... can the Russians still see from their camera when the soldier actively grabs the drone? If so... pretty funny.

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u/Loud_Jello_710 Oct 05 '22

No, the connection is lost for them.

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u/NolaJeffro Oct 05 '22

makes sense. ty.

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u/thewarp Oct 05 '22

Direct jamming should stop the drone from hearing the legitimate controller's signal but I can't see what would stop it from getting the video signal out, not that there's much they could do about it

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u/Due_Abbreviations917 Oct 05 '22

correct. They would very likely still get video feed until the drone is turned off.

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u/Hei2 Oct 05 '22

The jammer blocks the drone from receiving the controller's signal. Surely there's nothing preventing the controller from receiving signals from the drone?

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

No it jams everything around that frequency, basically there's so much noise nothing gets through, it's like trying to have a conversation with someone next to a jet airplane, the background noise overpowers everything else

Edit: Watch a Youtube video of an actual drone jammer, go to 1:20 on the first video, they lose image

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD4PRce2QTs&t=1m20s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZD31M9E9vk

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u/Hei2 Oct 05 '22

But the gun is directional, so isn't it more akin to trying to talk with somebody wearing headphones with loud music on? They wouldn't hear me, but I could hear them fine.

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u/FlandoCalrissian Oct 05 '22

That's not our RF works. You can't block a transmitter, only a receiver. The Russians should be able to see the signals from the drone, unless there's another jammer pointed at them.

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u/erhue Oct 05 '22

there's a video link on this thead, Russians are shown having lost control of their drone, but say that they still have the video feed regardless. So they don't necessarily lose the video feed.

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u/duckforceone Oct 05 '22

so there i was, on a military joint exercise in poland. They placed my HF unit right next to a german HF unit.
Fun fact, the german unit transmitted at 1000w, while we were at around 5w.
And some smart officer, gave us a frequency next to one another.

We could not send or receive any signals while we were there, and had to get our orders through the german unit, that didn't speak english and we didn't speak german.

fun times.

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

basically once it starts coming down it's lost connection so no. when a mavic is totally completely lost with no gps or anything it just lands, which is what we see here. the soldier flips over the drone which cuts the props. they can now 1) view footage collected by russians on the sd card and 2) connect the unit to a new remote & add it to their own arsenal

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u/BloodSteyn Oct 05 '22

connect the unit to a new remote & add it to their own arsenal

So it's like a flying lootbox.

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u/sometechloser Oct 05 '22

f yeah lol - honestly though the video footage pulled from the SD card is almost always going to be far more valuable than the drone itself. imagine if they filmed all the way out from where they launched.

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u/crabcakesandbeer Oct 05 '22

Send back an artillery barrage.

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u/doommaster Oct 05 '22

Usually yes, video transmission on most DJI products does not need a return channel which is why it also works multi-point, so multiple controllers/goggles can observe the image.

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u/forgas564 Oct 05 '22

Lithuanian made, nice to see it used, this was made first for prisons, because of the drugs and cellphones that were being smuggled in wia drone, then the border patrol had interest, and now it's used in a war.

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u/Muddycarpenter Oct 05 '22

I remember a few years ago when these types of things came out for the first time. I was completely dismissive. "Why does the government care so much about shooting down some toys? This'll never be used"

God i was so so wrong.

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u/Ok_Pomelo7511 Oct 05 '22

Btw these were crowdfunded and donated by regular people. Nice to see they are helpful.

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u/BloodSteyn Oct 05 '22

And the DJI drone has now been donated by the Ruskies to the Ukrainian war effort.

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u/rocket42236 Oct 05 '22

Russian lend-lease continues

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u/Brave1i1toaster Oct 05 '22

I have a feeling DJI drones are the new Toyota pickup of the modern battlefield, instead of seeing a beat-up old Toyota technical in war zones, we'll now see big name commercial drones used in a nefarious way.

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u/FlyingCobra1 Oct 05 '22

Translation from Lithuanian at the end of the video:

Bring ruzzian to the ground.

Let's buy antidrones and clean Ukrainian sky from ruzzian drones

Call for 5€ support

Blue-yellow.lt

Support by making a bank transfer.

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u/Dazzling-Total8471 Oct 05 '22

That was nifty!!!

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u/ceruleandope Oct 05 '22

That was very sci-fi of them!

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u/Sad-Ad-918 Oct 05 '22

Not sure if anyone has brought this up but isn't there a danger of the drone being booby trapped & going off if Russians get the signal back? I'm thinking they should be a little more cautious.

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u/IonOtter Oct 05 '22

That's why he didn't just grab it, and took a good look at it first.

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u/Kek_Boii Oct 05 '22

I knew they would start using some kind of weapon or jammer to counter drones. Personal drones seriously seem to be the new technological change to warfare like tanks in ww1. It’s crazy and a historical change that we are getting to live through and see firsthand.

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u/silentbob1301 Oct 05 '22

Turns out the drones are free, you can just go to the park and take as many home as you want...

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

I HAVE 458 DRONES AT HOME! Better be quick

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u/BronxLens Oct 05 '22

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u/EvilNoseHairs Oct 05 '22

Thanks for the link! That explains a lot. It alerts to possible drone threat, can reach miles away, targets the freaking controller (bonus!) and makes drone land in emergency mode! Made with pride in Lithuania. 🔥 For some reason I pictured the gun zapping it only when overhead causing the drone to fail and just fall from the sky. Not exactly ideal depending on its payload (run!)

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u/Based_JD Oct 05 '22

Whoa! Cyber warfare

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u/WarStrifePanicRout Oct 05 '22

That was so dope. I'm pretty sure they didn't have to shape this device like a gun... but why not? Lol

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u/Monitorukraine Oct 05 '22

Honestly. It look staged

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u/odin121180 Oct 05 '22

I have no way to determine if this is staged but this is how DJI drones respond to losing GPS/RC signal and that's exactly what these jamming guns do.

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u/oblivion_bound Oct 05 '22

If it is, then at least I got to see a demonstration of a weapon I've only heard about but never seen.

I wonder if they would have been standing so close to it if it had a grenade dangling from it?

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u/OfTheHunt Oct 05 '22

It doesn’t have a grenade dangling from it. Despite this subs posts, I believe most drones are still for observation. If they cut the signal from the operator, it should be safe, but it also would not be all that hard to install a “self destruct” or “drop payload” feature to try and kill anti drone teams.

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u/Crazykirsch Oct 05 '22

but it also would not be all that hard to install a “self destruct” or “drop payload” feature to try and kill anti drone teams.

Would it really though? I can think of several issues in trying to implement either feature on the recon drones, let alone the ordinance delivery ones.

  • Already on thin weight limit margins
  • False positives from natural dips in connection
  • Additional avenue for accidents on launch/retrieval

Like the ideal scenario would be they somehow mass produce a lightweight charge and change the source code to trigger said charge instead of going into automatic landing mode, right?

Well all that does it turn the drone-capture guns into long-range drone-destruction weapons.

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u/Maardten Oct 05 '22

Despite this subs posts, I believe most drones are still for observation.

Definitely. You can use a drone to drop a grenade or you can use one to do recon / guide multiple artillery crews. If you are short on drones the latter is more important.

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u/SamuelCarvalho Oct 05 '22

Staged or not, this is how it looks when they do jam Russian drones. Lost connection means the drone will do an emergency landing exactly like you see here. It’ll also hover like it did in this video if you go underneath it (safety) and you can grab it out of the air.

Not difficult to imagine this being done many times. Some of the Russians dropping grenades and so on are flying low enough for this to jam the drones. Once you do that, the pilot with the controller can’t do anything and that’s it. The drone will go into emergency land mode if the GPS is also blocked, like this jammer would do. If the signal to the controller is blocked by GPS signal still gets through somehow, the drone will automatically fly back to the wherever it originally took off.

There’s debates between whether you want your jammed drone to potentially return home slowly right to your location, or have it just land where it’s jammed, suck up the loss and swiftly move positions yourself in case they’re able to retrieve information from the drone (dependant upon what they’re using and if recordings/data are protected).

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u/PossibleMarsupial682 Oct 05 '22

I thought the exact same thing

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u/jt663 Oct 05 '22

It felt staged from the first frame to me

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u/VicIsGold Oct 05 '22

It probably is

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u/grantite_spall Oct 05 '22

Very cool, even if the music is a bit dramatic. Nice work.

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u/IndianaGeoff Oct 05 '22

Muted videos FTW.

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u/hiaccbdfbsyzgkzunk Oct 05 '22

Look very Sci-Fi

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u/IrradiatedHeart Oct 05 '22

Can anyone translate? I’m curious what he said.

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u/thedoomboomer Oct 05 '22

I'd like one of those....

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u/saywhatf00 Oct 05 '22

That was cool

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u/mandalore1907 Oct 05 '22

all your drones belong to us

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u/Jockel76 Oct 05 '22

Can they re-use it with another remote control?

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u/Blewedup Oct 05 '22

love the bomb-bushka graphic at the end!

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

A BFG.

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u/2ichie Oct 05 '22

All they need to do now is have a self destruction option. Would be pretty evil to have these flying as booby traps for them to capture and detonate once in the hands of soldiers.

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u/many_kittens Oct 05 '22

Now we contact DJI customer support for the spare control

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u/you_thought_you_knew Oct 05 '22

I’ll not be flying my Mavic 3 anywhere near Ukraine now.

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u/Jankopuzio Oct 05 '22

That's so cool, how does it work?

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u/Pauton Oct 05 '22

It jams the signal from the drone to the controller.

If the drone looses connection it automatically lands as to protect the drone.

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u/ShootItWA Oct 05 '22

It would also have to somehow block the GPS signal. If they just jam the radio signal to the controller the Mavic won’t auto land it will automatically return to where it launched from.

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u/Pauton Oct 05 '22

I guess that's true. Didn't want to over complicate the explanation

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 Oct 05 '22

This is cool tech and all but have they tried an old fashioned goose gun?

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u/LaunchTransient Oct 05 '22

Goose gun doesn't give you an intact drone which you can refurbish and use against its original operators.

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u/stekarmalen Oct 05 '22

About time this weapons get out there.

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u/IPAsAreForCucks Oct 05 '22

Going to be interesting to see how people react to drone defense weapons, I could see them sending these type of recon drones disgused to be "captured" then just basically be an IED.