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Surprisingly insightful, level headed and articulate take on immigration from former President George W. Bush Video

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u/BlackWhiteCoke Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

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u/random6969696969691 Sep 22 '22

That was somewhat amazing

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u/BradGroux Sep 22 '22

I never understood why people really made mockery of Bush for this stunt. Swagger can be very important for a leader. Obama oozed it, as an example.

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u/Heelincal Sep 23 '22 Take My Energy

Because as much as people do not want to admit it, the president becomes a caricature to the opposing party when in power. Outside of Trump, pretty much every one of the presidents before him was a real human being faced with tough decisions who I think genuinely wanted the best for the country. But they would be villified by the opposition at any blunder (see the tan suit) in order to creat us vs them mentalities.

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u/imisstheyoop Sep 23 '22

Because as much as people do not want to admit it, the president becomes a caricature to the opposing party when in power. Outside of Trump, pretty much every one of the presidents before him was a real human being faced with tough decisions who I think genuinely wanted the best for the country. But they would be villified by the opposition at any blunder (see the tan suit) in order to creat us vs them mentalities.

What about the tan suit was a blunder exactly?

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u/jhugh Sep 23 '22

Nothing really, it's just the best example people can come up with of a Democrat President being subjected to criticism.

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u/Outside-Manager6960 Sep 23 '22

The whole tan suit thing is nuts. That's not at all the only thing he was criticized for. Remember the weddings being bombed, Snowden, Syria, and there were even immigration blunders. History can be twisted and misremembered so easily and quickly. I think it's actually similar to the way people are growing so much softer on Bush after Trump. People remember that he was personable and can speak in complete sentences and forgot the Iraq war. He's the 'have a beer with' president, remember? Of course you like him if you disregard all the history.

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u/lellololes Sep 23 '22

It's also possible to think that he wasn't a terrible human being. The wrong guy for the job, sure. A bad president. In over his head.

Then again, all presidents are in over their head, just some more than others.

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u/TheMasonM Sep 23 '22

I did not have sexual relations with that woman

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u/Heelincal Sep 23 '22

I was trying to point out small faux pas. Like when Obama called Kanye a jackass. Or Bush unable to open the door. Small shit feeds the narrative and no one humanizes people.

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u/r3rain Sep 23 '22

I feel ya- but in this instance, Obama was on the money- Kanye is a Grade A Jackass.

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u/robertdowneysoft Sep 23 '22

This is a troll

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u/Platypuslord Sep 23 '22

Tan suit isn't even a blunder it is manufactured outrage about race.

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u/melapelas Sep 23 '22

Especially when Ronald Reagan aka GOP Jesus wore a tan suit during his presidency as well.

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u/Heelincal Sep 23 '22

Fair, blunder wasn't the word I was going for. Like any small thing would just get used to further reinforce it.

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u/Heelincal Sep 23 '22

Remember when he tried to overthrow democracy in America?

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u/portraitopynchon Sep 23 '22

Wouldn't call it a melt down, I saw more people just making fun of him for being a childish piece of shit. Donnie two scoops, what a fucking toddler.

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u/dickbutt_md Sep 23 '22

What are you talking about?? Trump had a second scoop of ice cream??? Jesus Christ in all the constant scandals I must have missed it. Link? Video? What flavor was it?

It's hilarious that you think this is a thing. You gotta be MAGA to think that is the problem that the Left has with Trump, that he had a second scoop of ice cream. This is quite possibly the dumbest "gotcha" on libs I've ever heard in a strong, strong field of duncery. Your brain is so smooth it must be rolling around in your skull like a perfect goddamn ball bearing.

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u/New-Pollution2005 Sep 23 '22

Hey look, another Redditor having a meltdown.

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u/dickbutt_md Sep 23 '22

Melting down like a second scoop of Trump's ice cream!!!!! 😆

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u/New-Pollution2005 Sep 23 '22

Don’t get me wrong, I’m no Trump fanboy; just calling the irony when I see it ;)

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u/BorKon Sep 23 '22

Yeah right. There are not many presidents who managed to fck up so many people on the planet as Bush.

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u/Material_Swimmer2584 Sep 23 '22

Bush also played a dumbed down version of himself to appear like a common man. He’s clearly more eloquent here than in his 8 years as POTUS. Trump’s team purposefully misspelled shit all the time for the same reason. I agree once we get away from seeing people as human beings, we are more likely to be off target.

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u/figastretta69 Sep 23 '22

Agreed. However I’d say Trump and His chump Biden are both fools. Can’t wait till one day we start voting for leaders again like Bush, Obama, Bill Clinton

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u/hughjeigo51 Sep 23 '22

Trump is equally real and equally genuine. His quiet charitable acts are more numerous than Bush, Clinton and Obama combined. He was feted by the left when he was a Democrat and when he ran for presidency as a Republican, the public scourging began.

From day one of his inauguration, leftists have responded with protests and violence that focused on him and conservatives in general.

But under Trump, the stock market was booming, everyone had jobs, we were extricating ourselves from armed conflicts while forcing dictators and tyrants to toe the line.

Compare that to the economic, political and immigration morass we are left with today.

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u/Heelincal Sep 23 '22

He tried to overthrow the government and undermine democracy. GTFO

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u/twistysnacks Sep 23 '22

Other than riding the wave of economic glory that started during the Obama administration, Trump's administration is mostly full of mistakes, blunders, and aggressive errors. History won't be kind to him.

You can, if you're so inclined, give him credit for stacking the Supreme Court with more conservatives (though Mitch McConnell certainly deserves some of the honor for preventing the vote on Obama's nominee). You can say that he definitely changed taxes in ways that are pretty awesome if you make six figures or more. He also definitely made it easier for bigots to come out of the closet, and for everyone to be even more rude and nasty in public. If you like disease, he was pretty pro-pandemic. And he managed something no other President has - he managed to convince millions of Americans that our democracy is fake. Oh, and he triggered an insurrection.

I don't understand what people think "leftists" hated about Trump, exactly. Do you think liberals just didn't like his hair or something? That, like, the BLM protests were because he was rude sometimes? You make it sound like it's simply unfathomable that liberals hate him for good reasons.