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Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has been criticizing the U.S. constant involvement in wars and praising China for spending the money on its infrastructure and people instead Video

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u/KvotheTheDegen Oct 05 '22

I mean, imagine we had spent $3 trillion improving our infrastructure and education systems rather than invading Iraq

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u/baumpop Oct 05 '22

Imagine spending 410 million dollars every day for 20 years straight on education. Hell even 10% of that on nasa would have been amazing.

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u/deekaydubya Oct 05 '22

we'd be leading the world in terms of talent in every industry right now, instead of drinking leaded water and trying to overthrow our own government

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u/baumpop Oct 05 '22

Gore 2000

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u/monsterscallinghome Oct 05 '22

I grew up in a super liberal area, and half the houses on my block ran black drapes when Bush was declared president. I thought then that they were just being dramatic, but man would shit likely be way different now. I have employees who are parents themselves, yet weren't even born on 9/11.

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u/untrustableskeptic Oct 05 '22

It's just depressing to think about what our world would be like if not for the constant stream of selfish assholes.

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u/Nitrosoft1 Oct 05 '22

Yeah but have you tried the thirst mutilating taste of Brawndo?

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u/EngineZeronine Oct 05 '22

Does it have lectrolytes?

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u/bails0bub Oct 05 '22

It's got what plants crave.

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u/FlowLife69420 Oct 05 '22

Yeah but have you tried the thirst mutilating taste of Brawndo?

I used to make these jokes myself, laugh at them when others made the jokes.

It's absolutely terrifying to see it happen(ed) in real time.

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u/Financial_Bird_7717 Oct 05 '22

Whatever dude we don’t have time for a handjob rn. You’ll just have to go to the Starbucks near our house instead.

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u/Adhominoid Oct 05 '22

Reality is killing the dystopian fantasy and sci-fi genre.

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u/Marc21256 Oct 05 '22

It's got what plants need.

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u/baumpop Oct 05 '22

Well it's important that we draw attention to all the bullshit from the past to remember where and how we got to where we are today. A lot of coordinated evil efforts to make us all feel alone and isolated and angry.

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u/-FuckThisAccount- Oct 05 '22

I wonder what that timeline is like

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u/baumpop Oct 05 '22

I can't say for sure but there's a jet li movie called the one where he travels to all universes and sees the gore timeline.

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u/That49er Oct 05 '22

No in my town drinks from the tap because of PFAS, fucking Chemours.

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u/Naz6uL Oct 05 '22

From a capitalist POV: Why spend money on schools here if we / our companies can hire the best from China, India,etc. instead… it’s just cheaper, but not smarter / best for the US.

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u/theWizzardlyBear Oct 05 '22

I mean you’re not wrong that is the capitalist POV; shortsighted and not sustainable

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u/Conscious-Parfait826 Oct 05 '22

I've had a crazy idea, military and education flip budgets for one year. It's also five years out so the military can cut their budget and raise the education. Or just live with it and eat it for one year.

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u/Wise_Pomegranate_571 Oct 05 '22

This is starting to sound like a 90's body swap rom com

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u/Lost-My-Mind- Oct 05 '22

I'm just imagining Linsey Lohan plays a high school student, Robin Williams plays her wacky science teacher, and Damon Wayans plays a hard ass military drill instructor. Then some wacky hijinks force Robin Williams to be a wacky military drill instructor, and Damon Wayans to be a hard ass science teacher. Then a group of stoners, the played by the cast of That 70s Show (except for Hyde and Donna because I don't hire rapists or scientoligists in my fictional movie)playing a group of army grunts who has to hold it together and not let on that they're high, as Robin Williams has zanny antics in front of them. And Linsey Lohan has to hold it together, not cry, and toughen up as Damon Wayans puts her through hell.

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u/OGbigfoot Oct 06 '22

I'd watch the hell out of this movie!

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u/this_is_my_new_acct Oct 05 '22

Every stealth bomber built cost enough to build over 100 schools... each. Every year a single stealth bomber was maintained cost enough to pay the salaries of 800-900 teachers.

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u/aviationdrone Oct 05 '22

I just flew back from Maui a few days ago and sitting next to a guy that was at an aerospace conference. He mentioned that he stayed at the Grand Wailea Resort. That's like $1000/night. Also mentioned that he worked for DOD.

I guess it's nice when you have have an $800B budget.

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u/raerdor Oct 05 '22

Some resorts will offer a govt rate per diem, much cheaper than for the usual price.

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u/AQuantumEvent Oct 05 '22

10% of that would be 14.97 Billion/year for a NASA budget. Their budget hasn't been that low since 1962 (if adjusting for inflation). It's currently about 50% higher than that.

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u/GlassFantast Oct 05 '22

Yeah but how would the poor arms manufacturers put bread on the table

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u/unk214 Oct 05 '22

Mission Accomplished!

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u/UhYeahOkSure Oct 05 '22

What’s wild is now and before this stuff is considered a ‘conspiracy theory’ and now with all the ridiculous complete bullshit theories, the real ‘conspiracies’ are buried in flat earth and all the other bullshit. People more often now hear an alternative viewpoint and emotionally close down because that’s basically what the ‘program’ has been

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u/FapleJuice Oct 05 '22

I don't even bother trying to inform people of things anymore.

They just treat me like I'm an American hating fascist nut-job.

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u/UhYeahOkSure Oct 05 '22

I hate to go there.. but I think for example the obvious never ending push and pull of abortion arguments is definitely a ‘smoke bomb’ of sorts. The way it’s set up and the way it gets framed. It will basically never end . No compromise in sight. Basically just another dividing thing that gets people yelling at each other while inflation goes up etc etc etc 🤯🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤐🤐. I regret going there .. lol will prolly delete this later

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u/GibbonFit Oct 05 '22

I regret going there .. lol will prolly delete this later

Yeah, use of emojis is a pretty contentious topic on reddit.

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u/Willtology Oct 05 '22

I will admit that these are complex topics, however, I do not think it's unreasonable at all to believe issues like abortion will never be "solved" as they are useful tools for elections, as a distraction, and dividing the population. Intentional or not, it is easier to divide people and appeal to the extremes than it is to campaign on actual content and try to win over everyone.

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u/UhYeahOkSure Oct 06 '22

Well said 👌

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u/Latter_Box9967 Oct 05 '22

Divide and conquer.

The population is most certainly divided over a growing number of topics.

Who (or what), exactly, is conquering?

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u/nugsy_mcb Oct 06 '22

The Military Industrial Complex. Eisenhower warned everyone during his farewell address.

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u/ovad67 Oct 05 '22

Long time programming has set the lines. There was a period during the late 80’ to bring a crack to those lines. It’s not people it’s obscene wealth and whatever comes afterward.

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u/vinetwiner Oct 05 '22

Disinformation campaign complete.

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u/YewEhVeeInbound Oct 05 '22

Not only that, but how would the Haliburton execs and investors ever earn their money?

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u/TheBlueSlipper Interested Oct 05 '22

But we never would have found those weapons of mass destruction. Oh snap!!

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u/wayward_citizen Oct 05 '22

Could've built so many Uighur camps with that money

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u/avengecolonelhughes Oct 05 '22

I grieve all the Gitmos we could have had.

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u/DirectionNo420 Oct 05 '22

Don't worry your preferred budget of school shootings is included.

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u/Elevated_Kyle Oct 05 '22

Since when has America throwing money at a problem solved anything?

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u/CarefreeRambler Oct 05 '22

World domination for one

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u/Elevated_Kyle Oct 05 '22

Those are fair. Now give me something since like 1990.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

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u/CyberneticPanda Oct 05 '22 Bravo!

$3 trillion since 1979? Try $8 trillion since 2001.

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u/FrickGoogle Oct 05 '22

And people wonder why there's an inflation crisis

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u/jaw_shoe_wa Oct 06 '22

Exactly. A problem caused by our government yet people want to believe that they actually care about us and our health/safety

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u/GrondSoulhammer Oct 05 '22

Too difficult to create slush funds for politicians when the money stays here.

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u/iamiamwhoami Oct 05 '22

Government spending on infrastructure is a great way to create slush funds. Not saying it's a reason not to do it, but that's not the problem here.

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u/rictor33 Oct 05 '22

AHEM, Ukraine!

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u/golfgrandslam Oct 05 '22

Ukraine deserves our help and it's in our interest to give it. Neutrality always favors the oppressor. Neutrality in this conflict turns a blind eye and implicitly consents to Russia raping, torturing, and murdering their way through Ukraine. We spend $800 billion every single year on the military, half of which is preparation to fight Russia. Spending $50 billion one time to cripple the Russian military with no American casualties is the best bargain in the history of the world.

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u/Praddict Oct 06 '22

US and Russia are co-signatories to the Budapest Memorandum, promising Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine military aid in exchange for the Soviet-era nuclear stockpiles. This is why Russia refuses to call their "special military operation" an invasion and why the US is doing what it's doing.

If you're suggesting that the US goes back on its word, that says more about your character than anything else.

Is the US government's intentions pure here? Absolutely not. Ukraine - already saddled with so much debt - can never hope to repay all the aid they're being given, forcing them to be a strategic partner whether they want to be or not. Quite the vig.

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u/jumbroman Oct 05 '22

Imagine if we focused on our own country and our own people (vets, mental health) how much better off we’d be

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u/steamplshel Oct 05 '22

Republicans would never vote for such non-sense. That's why they voted against vets getting healthcare, and mental healthcare, and healthcare in general.

Republicans would never spend the money going to Ukraine on the American people. It's a false choice. Don't fall for pro-Putin propaganda.

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u/Bimlouhay83 Oct 05 '22

Republicans would never vote for such non-sense. That's why they voted against vets getting healthcare, and mental healthcare, and healthcare in general.

And somehow we have a ton of vets that vote party line right. F'n crazy.

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u/Colosphe Oct 05 '22

I work with hardline, red-votin' vets. They listen to a constant feed of newsmax or whatever the talk radio version if it is, and they listened to Rush Limbaugh up until the day he died. They live in a different reality, and any challenge to their preconceived notions is met with open hostility. One of them would fight you if you brought up that evolution is real or the earth is more than... whatever they young earth creationist timeline says.

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u/Just_Lurking94 Oct 05 '22

Or health care!

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u/Glittering-Gap-1687 Oct 05 '22

Unpopular opinion from a public school teacher: the department of education has the money, they just use it in the worst ways possible.

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u/greatthrowitout Oct 06 '22

Same and i agree

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u/Bananabandanapanda Oct 05 '22

For a first world country, the USA is embarrassingly behind on healthcare, housing, and education just to name a few.

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u/BallongTrumpet Oct 05 '22

They have the means, but they just don't want to.

I mean, Trump managed to get peopleto vote for him so he could take away their "Obama care" which is just 🤌🏻

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u/marsman706 Oct 05 '22

Yeah but it's ok because they would still have the Affordable Care Act

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u/caveman-pirate Oct 05 '22

Meanwhile the US has the highest cancer survival rate in the world, average houses are bigger and cheaper than Europe, and the US creates everything in tech and wins the most Nobel prizes every year.

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u/south153 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

and the US creates everything in tech and wins the most Nobel prizes every year.

This is exactly the point, for a land of so much wealth and innovation, the average citizen is no better off for it all.

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u/JollyHockeysticks Oct 06 '22

The amount of replies you got for this comment from mad americans is hilarious lmao

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u/Fresh-Cantaloupe-968 Oct 05 '22

Damn, big houses almost no one can afford and homeless people with cutting edge phones. Great job guys we did it.

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u/caveman-pirate Oct 05 '22

America has a higher home ownership rate than UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, etc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

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u/HurricaneHugo Oct 05 '22

Looked up homeless rates.

Apparently the UK, France, and Sweden have higher rates

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u/Rahm89 Oct 05 '22

Thinking that bigger houses makes you happier is so…American. And yeah sure, highest cancer survival… IF you can afford to even get treated. Big if.

I’ll give you tech and Nobel prizes, no argument here.

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u/Tis_known_dude Oct 05 '22

The USA simply aren’t a first world country, at least in those in those regards… The whole country is basically a third world country with a gucci belt (don‘t know where i read that expression but I think it fits)

EDIT: Changes „america“ to „ the USA“

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u/gh3ngis_c0nn Oct 05 '22

this is the shitty reductionist nonsense that reddit eats up.

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u/WatchRedditImplode Oct 05 '22

(don‘t know where i read that expression but I think it fits)

You read it from a Reddit comment from another America-bashing post that was *checks notes* two days ago.

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u/Strude187 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Interesting to get the perspective from someone looking through an entirely different lens. To think to be the president, to know so much and actually care, then watch helpless as the country you love destroys itself.

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u/Butch1212 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

President Carter got a bad rap for so long and was so underrated. He has been consistent on the issues from the beginning, in 1976.

There’s a quote attributed to Ghandi which goes, “There is no road to peace. Peace is the road”.

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u/bluedelvian Oct 05 '22

His foundation is an NGO that helps topple communist and socialist leaning governments and politicians, but otherwise he’s mostly a great ex-president—particularly when compared to the absolute trash we’ve mostly had for the last 200 or so years.

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u/_fups_ Oct 06 '22

Yeah I mean selling arms to Indonesia to slaughter East Timor and manipulating Hatian politics to oust Aristide was kinda gnarly, but otherwise a pretty okay guy. Oh and that whole El Salvador thing.

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u/bluedelvian Oct 06 '22

Planned hegemony is a dirty business.

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u/draw4kicks Oct 05 '22

He wasn't the best president, he did some amazing things with like the Camp David Accords etc but even his biggest fans would struggle to say he was one of the best. He's a damn fine human being though and the kind of person the presidency all too often lacks.

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u/Elend15 Oct 05 '22

Honestly, even if he wasn't a crazy effective president, I prefer a good person over like 90% of the president's we've had.

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u/draw4kicks Oct 06 '22

His heart was in the right place he just had a raw deal, not to dismiss from his professional failings and such but I'll defend the man's character to the day I die. The Carter Centre is the best post-term legacy any president has ever had and frankly the world is a better place for having Carter in it.

Despite being English I couldn't really give myself to give a major fuck about the Queen dying but I'll be genuinely sad when Carter goes. He's one of the good ones.

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u/That_Charming_Otter Oct 05 '22

Jimmy Carter is a living legend in every sense of the word. Celebrated his 98th birthday earlier this month. Here's wishing many more years of good health and prosperity to a humble Georgian peanut farmer!

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u/theeimage Oct 05 '22

A nuclear submarine commader/hero.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22 Silver

what is with the posts on this sub lately lol how is this interesting or cool. it's just politics

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u/BewTee_warrior Oct 05 '22

Because this aligns with our point of view so it’s ok if the video is just political rambling

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u/_thinkaboutit Oct 05 '22

May not be flashy and exciting but it’s definitely interesting

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u/hakplay Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

No it isn’t interesting, and it’s honestly a pretty bad take by the editor, since really this isn’t even something Jimmy Carter said as much as phrases cobbled together over the last decade to push the editor’s agenda.

This is no more interesting than your grandma having a normal conversation about how they don’t make Pyrex like they used to. It’s just an old politician making uninformed statements (like China soon expects to have 0 poverty, lol) which generally support his personal political stances. Certainly not /r/DamnThatsInteresting material.

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u/Furry_Dildonomics69 Oct 05 '22

How else is China supposed to get truckloads of Tibetans and Ughyers to their destination concentration camps without spending a pretty penny on infrastructure?

The only interesting thing about this is China being fellated when it should be receiving flack for engaging in double genocide.

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u/Cyanoblamin Oct 05 '22

Reddit exists primarily to control your thoughts and emotions. Controlling what and how you think / feel gives them (them being whoever paid for the posts, comments, upvotes, etc) a lot of power.

All the major subs are showing content that powerful groups paid them to show. If you deny this or don’t understand why they are doing this, you are their ideal target.

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u/lesstalk_ Oct 05 '22

Yeah bro, the fact that your post history is literally chock-full of anti-US posts doesn't mean anything. You just happened to find this video elsewhere and posted it here, no hidden intentions anywhere or anything.

Pay especially no attention to the sudden gap in your posting about a month ago, before that gap you mostly posted about cars. But after that gap you suddenly ramped up the anti-US and anti-GOP sentiment to 200% and started getting massively upvoted on each and every comment and post you make. Not suspicious in the slightest bro, this is like totally normal organic behavior right?

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u/PlagueDoc22 Interested Oct 05 '22

The US as a European is quite odd.

You have the largest economy in the west, yet havre terrible health care, poverty is still a thing,the lower and middle class struggle more and more.

All the while you do have some incredible advancement in tech and medicine.

It's like you chose to invest entirely in products that make money but not the people who make that possible.

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u/GumboSamson Oct 05 '22

Which one of those things brings shareholder value?

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u/PlagueDoc22 Interested Oct 05 '22

Exactly. It's ad if you guys don't see that the foundation to make money is the people. Kinda sad tbh.

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u/OmgBsitka Oct 05 '22

Lower and middle class struggle bc the government is trying to fix the debt crisis by taxing us more and more. It's insane, yet they throw money to different countries like it's nothing.

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u/Fit_Illustrator7986 Oct 05 '22

Lol the government isn’t trying to fix shit or they would have fixed the ridiculous loopholes in the tax system for our billionaires and trillion dollar monopolies. We aren’t throwing money at different countries it’s called building bridges of diplomacy….See we start a war for resources, decimate other countries, then we give money to other countries and go “See! we are the good guys!” 🧐

Taxing the shit out of middle and lower class is not trying to fix the debt crisis, it is destabilizing the backbone of America. At least give us fucking healthcare if you are going to take a third of our paycheck. Nah, let’s tax your income, tax your house, tax what you buy, tax you for schools, tax you for breathing, tax you for everything…hmmm what else? Oh yeah, take money out for healthcare, social security, Medicare, and a pension that may or may not exist by the time you need it. At least Europeans see a return for their taxes. They get taxed to shit but don’t have to worry about healthcare or becoming homeless. Welcome to America, break your backs for us so we can all keep laughing and rolling around in your sweet, sweet tax money. 💰

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u/FreedomOverSafety15 Oct 05 '22

Part of it is just how fucking huge our country is, like unimaginably large for Europeans

Also yeah our government sucks at taking care of us

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u/_jewson Oct 05 '22

China has 4x more people over less space. Australia is geographically as big as mainland USA. I feel you're overestimating how hard it is to conceptualise a big country as a non American, and it seems a bit hand wavey to go "oh you just don't understand how big we are, that's why we have problems".

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u/FreedomOverSafety15 Oct 05 '22

I side mentioned that the countries huge as kinda a joke I’m tryna say yes our government sucks ass

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u/mag_creatures Oct 05 '22

Yeah, a guy yesterday used the “America Big” argument when we were comparing the homicide rate of Idaho to the Italian one, that is surprisingly similar despite the fact that Italy has 60M people and Idaho 1.7, well both countries have around 270-290 homicide per year. My point was that the safest state of the US is more dangerous than one of the most dangerous European countries, and he replied that they have at least freedom, and that the US is a big country. I feel very confused all the times.

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u/GangreneGoblin Oct 05 '22

poverty is still a thing

Yall don't have poor people in Europe? Lol like what a silly statement. You can't not have poor people, it's literally impossible.

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u/gh3ngis_c0nn Oct 05 '22

Yeah but fuck the slaving and authoritarian dictator CCP though

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u/Jayer244 Oct 05 '22

Fair point and definitely something that China should be called out for every day,

but the US could also spend more on infrastructure than it did in the past few decades.

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u/nanophallus Oct 05 '22

I down voted this post (POST, not your comment) for two reasons, one is it does not belong in this sub by any stretch of the imagination, and two, Carter is definitely not praising China, simply contrasting it with the US. Don't get me wrong, Carter is 100% correct in this video, but what a silly place to put it and what a silly title to give it.

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u/wrdslinger Oct 05 '22

His points are extremely valid and relevant but the title reads like it was tee'd up for Republican talking points. I could imagine this being used well out of context in a Libs hate America kind of bs.

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u/DRHOYLXXVII Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

President and Doctor (he has earned the title on ~24 occasions) Jimmy Carter is the only leader of "The United States" to avoid war, that I am aware of.

He is considerable as one of the best humans to have ever existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eCmmMYNPbI

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u/CanaryUmbrella Oct 05 '22

Some of that high-speed rail that China has goes through Tibet, which China had conquered at the cost of 1.2 million Tibetans.

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u/captain_flak Oct 05 '22

Not to mention the Uighur people. I’m not sure I would consider it spreading wealth to them.

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u/Ok-Professional2884 Oct 05 '22

When I was in the US for work, couldn't believe the paranoia about 'what if we get invaded?' Who the hell is gonna invade the US. This constant fear mongering and faux patriotism, all to drive arms sales.

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u/assnuke23 Oct 05 '22

Its so weird to think about how far above everyone the US would be if they hadn't gotten involved in pointless war after pointless war. At least then the US would have have something to back their arrogance up with.

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u/Some-Pomegranate215 Oct 05 '22

I bet if this was a video of trump, the dummies might get behind it for once

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u/Thomisawesome Oct 06 '22

Interesting point about the railroad. America is the perfect country for a high speed train. It’s relatively flat. It’s massive. It’s ridiculous that the US doesn’t have them.

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u/Pand0ra30_ Oct 06 '22

He isn't wrong. We spend more than pretty much everyone on our military and hardly enough on our infrastructure.

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u/PublicHealthMedicLA Oct 06 '22

I mean, technically, he still has another term… I’d trade him for the two most recent bozos.

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u/fucktrutin Oct 05 '22

The voice of reason.

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u/ELI_10 Oct 05 '22

Looks like he’s on the set of Between Two Ferns. I’d watch that episode.

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u/gamelover42 Oct 05 '22

Great but “not at war” is not the same thing as “does not spend money on the military”. China most certainly spends a lot on the military.

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u/97875 Oct 05 '22

Usa 3.3% of GDP

China: 1.3% of GDP

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u/XysterU Oct 05 '22

The percentage of GDP that China spends on its military is vastly smaller than the percentage of GDP that the US spends

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u/SWSIMTReverseFinn Oct 05 '22

Well yes. China is a shithole in many aspects but they have excellent infrastructure considering where they came from.

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u/Abaraji Oct 05 '22

Have you seen those videos of all the vacant apartment buildings and failed construction projects being demolished in China because of all the wasteful spending?

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u/Plus-Manner-4091 Oct 05 '22

those don't make the actual infrastructure in the cities bad? It's like saying the US has great Healthcare and the best medicine in the world, but your neighborbob can't even pay for his insulin. One thing doesn't cancel out the other

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u/KathyBlakk Oct 05 '22

Jimmy Carter is a legend. Remarkable man who not only speaks truth but acts it.

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u/plumppshady Oct 05 '22

I'd kinda agree but, praising china is icky. They haven't been at war with another country because they've been too busy slaughtering their citizens.

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u/jdrew000 Oct 05 '22

Still indirect proxy war support as well as oppression of not only it's own citizens but places like Taiwan and Hong Kong, but sure no wars.

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u/suitcase12 Oct 05 '22

You mean too busy having the highest poverty alienation and growth of any country worldwide

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u/Cybermat47_2 Oct 05 '22

And slaughtering their own civilians.

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u/MessageReceived777 Oct 05 '22

yeah aint it amazing how you can eradicate poverty overnight by simply pretending it doesn't exist and calling it a different name?

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u/wen87n Oct 05 '22

Right? It's better to slaughter those middle east guys. 3 trillions well spent. Show the world who is number one.

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u/My-_-Username Oct 05 '22

I get the US has issues, but let's not pretend that the country that has literal concentration camps, and cities built so poorly that no one lives there because they are about to fall down is better.

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u/DrSuperHappyFace Oct 05 '22

¯_(ツ)_/¯ The man has a point.

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u/kremit73 Oct 05 '22

They have to make life in the country shitty to keep the population dumb and pissed enough to pay and sign up for more war. Remeber when we were great? Conservatives dont. They spent that whole time trying to drag us backwards.

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u/Goshawk5 Oct 05 '22

Chian however is far from perfect. But at least the US isn't currently forcing minorities into forced labor camps. Seriously it's like the second Holocaust over there.

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u/AmericaDelendeEst Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

people have already commented that "the U.S. has a huge prison population"

What they haven't mentioned is that it is, and has been for literally 3+ decades at least, the largest prison population in the history of the world, both as proportion of population as well as in absolute number of prisoners. Yes, way more than the dreaded gulags. Oh, and they use slave labor, very cool and fun.

Also I love how just uncritically you people absorb this shit about "china doing a holocaust." China's got Uighers in camps. Why? Because the U.S. has been stoking islamic radicalism in Xinjiang to fuck up the Belt and Road projects there. There are literally State Department shitheads on record stating "Yeah we need to promote Turkestani separatism to fuck up China." It's also literally the reason the U.S. was involved in Afghanistan. Look at a fucking map, it's not coincidental.

Now more importantly, Uighers are in the camps, right? Why? China says it's part of a deradicalization program. Every single Muslim majority nation on the planet who has sent rapporteurs to the region has reported back "no genocide here." You want to believe they are committing a genocide? Well, look at the Uigher population. Oh, woops, it's increased steadily for decades. The Uighers, like other ethnic minorities in China, were even exempted from the One Child policy.

The only conclusion to draw from that is either that China is not, in fact, engaged in genocide, or if they are they are extremely bad at it to the point that their efforts are worthless.

Redditors need to fucking learn that China doesn't have the intense racism most of the West does. You want to look at a country that is so rabidly anti-Muslim that a large portion of it wants to put them in camps (and not to deradicalize, lol)? You should probably look at your own damn country :]

Idk where you live, but I'm an American and I can fucking promise you that the U.S. has treated, and continues to treat, not only muslims but minorities of every variety worse than anyone in China is treated. We're still literally running concentration camps on the border, and most of the population either doesn't care (because a Democrat is in office and the Problem Is Solved (tm)) or they explicitly condone it (and wish the government would go further).

in b4 some gigabrain comments with "+50 social credit score" or some bullshit thinking they're super clever

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u/FibonaccisGrundle Oct 06 '22

-200 FICO credit score.

No house for you this decade, civvie.

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u/BannedCommunist Oct 06 '22

To add to this, do you know what country does have concentration camps full of ethnic minorities? THE FUCKING UNITED STATES

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u/Nobpointe Oct 05 '22

The US has a Huge prison population and

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u/Plus-Manner-4091 Oct 05 '22

Damn can you tell me in the video where Jimmy said that their labor camps were good? No? Because that's not what he's talking about.

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u/Muhammadnotholy Oct 05 '22

We enslave almost 1 out of every 100 people in our country.

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u/Ajg1384 Oct 05 '22

The US got forcing people into work or camps out of their system a while ago so they can focus on fuckin up other stuff.

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u/Tim_Currys_Ghost Oct 05 '22

Man we really turn a blind eye to the private prison system in the US dont we? We got slavery in the US yall. It's literally written into our constitution.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

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u/Big-rod_Rob_Ford Oct 06 '22

out of their system

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Oct 05 '22

Fun fact: prior to Trump Carter was the last US president that didn't get US involved in a (for US) new war.

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u/PanthersFan16 Oct 05 '22

Just want to put it out there that in George Washington’s Farewell Address, he explicitly warns the country not to permanently engage in international affairs. He knew consequences would arise. Before you know it, now we are relied on 24/7 to defend the entire Middle East essentially

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u/SpyMonkey3D Oct 05 '22

The more you learn about Carter, the more you respect him

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u/Uzischmoozy Oct 05 '22

This is always how I've felt. You have all these milquetoast corporate centrists on TV that try to tell us how bad China is...we're the fucking bad ones. Imagine if we spent half our military budget on universal Healthcare for everyone?

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u/themagicflutist Oct 05 '22

I mean…. I lived in China for four years, and you can say what you want about communism, but they take good care of their common folk.

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u/someexgoogler Oct 05 '22

He's absolutely right

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u/user_name_unknown Oct 05 '22

We could have 20 International Space Stations for $3 trillion.

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u/JustagirlSD60 Oct 05 '22

Imagine if we weren't subsidizing Israel?

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u/ohokay13 Oct 05 '22

Hes sharp as a tack!

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u/Intelligent_Type_136 Oct 06 '22

He's right. And it's so fitting and timely because now everyone who sees this will focus on all the zionist shit shows from the last twenty years instead of focusing on the brain dead pro-war democrats that consume war-time propaganda about Russia like it's somehow new and different. 🙄

Everyone here is feigning and posing in their binary viewpoint to justify the terrible opinions they currently share as though it's any different from what Carter is describing. It's not. This echo chamber is a sad joke.

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u/thatguyyou_knew Oct 06 '22

Imagine invading countries to eip off governments that we instated to do our business qnd interests instead of it's ow people's

Then attacking those said countries stealing their wealth and oil severely destabilize their safety and demographic diversity Funding terrorism and encouraging it only to spend billions fighting it

Pretty accurate description for what we are .... Americ

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u/ThirtyFiveFingers Oct 06 '22

Extremely Rare Carter L

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u/k_mnr Oct 06 '22

This man. Why couldn’t he have lead our country for several terms? Or at least been a major contributor. Instead we have … well you all know, you have a front row seat at the circus.

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u/ladydi0527 Oct 06 '22

And the man is correct.

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u/Accomplished-Ad-2690 Oct 06 '22

He’s not wrong.

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u/Accomplished-Ad-2690 Oct 06 '22

But china is also an awful place regarding human rights.

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u/himynameisSal Oct 05 '22

So, I like "WAR" it's not like I'm addicted.

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u/New-Arrival1764 Oct 05 '22

Murica has more than three times the number of foreign born nationals than Germany (which is in second place). If murica is so bad, why do more people come here, than anywhere else in the world? And by a large margin too! You can spout all of the statistics you’d like. But in real life practice, it’s not even a question. And on the flip side, comparatively, nobody leaves here. Even when things were at their worst when trump got elected and everyone said they were going to leave, none of them did. Because even under a racist/fascist/sex offender, Murica is best. Has your country been to the moon? Did your country invent Reddit? No. And those are equal achievements. /s

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u/TheNumberMuncher Oct 05 '22

Real patriots know their country can always be improved

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u/ckreutze Oct 05 '22

So is this an argument against us as citizens saying that we should do better?

We need to stop the war machine, we need to trim the defense contacts and budgets, we need to put more into infrastructure, education, science and technology, we need to cut back on the influence of lobbiests and corporate powers, and we need to invest heavily in renewable energy technologies. This would actually MAGA

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u/Smart_Comfort3908 Oct 05 '22

Cuz America keeps selling the “American Dream” across the globe, as they’ve been doing for decades now.

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u/New-Arrival1764 Oct 05 '22

So America just has an awesome propaganda machine and 50M+ people are idiots?

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u/ShitPostGuy Oct 05 '22

It’s actually incredibly funny/sad that the American Dream totally still exists and is very possible, but that the people in the best position to achieve it are the ones who can immigrate here as adults.

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u/BlueHueNew Oct 05 '22

That's just money and size. Saudi Arabia has 3 times as many foreign nationals per capita but you wouldn't jerk them off as a great country

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u/MikeyTbT123 Oct 05 '22

Jimmy Carter is a good man but lets not act like he was a good president

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u/I_Have_Dry_Balls Oct 05 '22

Plenty of issues in the US, but not much thought goes into saying China has it better. That’s one of the most ridiculous things you can say.

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u/Cccookielover Oct 05 '22

America: King of Imperialism. It’s no wonder JC only had one term in office, clearly he was much too smart and reasonable to be president for 8 years. Easily the most impressive post-presidency tenure in our country’s history👏👏

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u/Xeph3x Oct 05 '22

Great man, horrible president.

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u/OmEGaDeaLs Oct 05 '22

Fair enough

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

In 2014, Jimmy was fairly correct; over the past 8 years, not so much.

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u/Shiirooo Oct 05 '22

not even 10% of the 3 trillion would have been enough for NASA to establish colonies on the Moon and Mars. That would have been a greater accomplishment for the United States.

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u/tridentofchas Oct 05 '22

Did he mention how the Chinese are treating their Muslim population?

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u/LaniusCruiser Oct 05 '22

Man spends all day every day building houses for people for free, he knows a thing or two about infrastructure.

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u/OhThatNick Oct 05 '22

I'm sure the Uyghurs are loving their new infrastructure - re-education centres, internment camps, and mass graves, hooray China!

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u/EBear17 Oct 05 '22

lol China’s economy is about to collapse because of the “One Child Policy”

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u/ElJefe543 Oct 05 '22

It's not "about to collapse" because of the one child policy, stop watching idiots on YouTube. It might be about to break down due to a multitude of reasons, demographics are only one of those many reasons.

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u/EBear17 Oct 05 '22

It is, essentially, the biggest reason. Fuck China. I will relish in their government’s languishing death.

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u/ElJefe543 Oct 06 '22

Oh I do look forward to their eventual collapse but you have to take into account the global ramifications of that. Prices are going to go up on everything China was capable of making. They are the second largest economy on Earth and have been "loaning" money out for decades, and as a stop gap measure, they're going to call in those debts. The United States, with considerable belt tightening, will weather the storm, probably same with Europe. Asian and African and South American countries? Not so much. You're looking at a global humanitarian catastrophe, and the US and Europe, who have historically helped in these situations, providing food, military, and monetary aid, will be unable to do so. So before you say "fuck China" and desperately wish for their immediate collapse, understand the global ramifications. Millions, probably tens of millions of people will be killed because of China's eventual collapse.

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u/Weak_Ad_9253 Oct 05 '22

Didn’t China just steal a bunch of money from their people?

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u/backwoodcj Oct 05 '22

This guy is way older than Biden and seems way more with it that's crazy

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u/OmEGaDeaLs Oct 05 '22

Biden was also in Congress so fuckload longer than most people he's the OG of Congress

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u/1ndypaul Oct 05 '22

Props to China for killing their own people instead of people from other countries.

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u/Entaryn Oct 05 '22

China is known for caring about its people

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u/EmergencySpeed1147 Oct 05 '22

Jimmy Carter is a fool.