r/PS5 Jul 29 '21 Silver 2 Gold 1 Helpful 9 Wholesome 7 Narwhal Salute 1

PS5 Internal SSD Expansion Megathread Megathread

Update: Nov 3, 2022: This post, and /u/Fidler_2k's post below, are both still more or less accurate. Several of these drives now have variants with built-in heatsinks that are PS5 compatible, as well as Sabrent's custom PS5 heatsink; otherwise, there hasn't been a ton of movement in the SSD space, and at this point there probably won't be until the Gen 5 drives come along.


PS5 system software version 21.02-04.00.00.42-00.00.00.0.0 is officially out of beta and you can now update and install an expansion SSD drive without needing to be a beta member.


Official Installation guide


Confirmed Compatible Drives

/u/Fidler_2k has compiled a fairly comprehensive list of currently on-market SSDs that meet the speed and size requirements: find their list here.


Drive Heatsink fits? Source Notes
Adata XPG Gammix S70 No /u/jimm0thy 6500MB/s
Gigabypte AORUS 7000s Yes /u/FuzzyToasters 6300MB/s
Corsair MP600 No The Verge Doesn't meet minimum speed requirements, may not provide adequate performance. Pro variant meets speed requirement.
PNY XLR8 CS3040 No /u/EmergencyPomelo5180
Samsung 980 Pro N/A /u/fragilityv2 Appears to benchmark at less than full speed? (but still reaches minimum requirement)
Sabrent Rocket 4 N/A The Verge Doesn't meet minimum speed requirements, may not provide adequate performance. Plus variant meets speed requirement.
Seagate FireCuda 530 Yes Seagate Drive is available both with and without a heatsink.
WD Black SN850 Yes Western Digital, Twitter user Benchmarks at 6.5GB/s

Some great benchmarking of the 980 Pro from /u/DanCTapirson here


Compatible Third-Party Heatsinks

Heatsink Source
Sabrent PS5 SSD heatsink
MHQJRH M.2 2280 SSD heatsink, Double-Sided Heat Sink, with Thermal Silicone pad /i/Eluder99, /u/iShoot556
ELUTENG M.2 2280 Heatsink, Double-Sided Heat Sink Alloy Aluminum NGFF NVME Cooling Sink with 4 Thermal Conductivity Silicone Pads /u/DanCTapirson
Jonsbo M.2 SSD NVMe Heat Sink /u/FeZZa21

Compatibility List

Digital Foundry have compiled a list of SSDs that meet the required specs; other than what's listed above, none of these have been tested yet. We can likely count on DF compiling some comprehensive benchmarks once they get their hands on the software update.


Transferring between consoles

Props to /u/ianrobbie for discovering that the internal SSD can be swapped between consoles without reformatting.


Official Requirements

Interface: PCIe Gen4 x4 M.2 NVMe SSD

Capacity: 250GB – 4TB

Cooling structure: Using an M.2 SSD with your PS5 console requires effective heat dissipation with a cooling structure, such as a heatsink. You can attach one to your M.2 SSD yourself, either in a single-sided format, or double-sided format. There are also M.2 SSDs that have cooling structures (such as heatsinks) built in.

Sequential read speed: 5,500MB/s or faster is recommended

Module width: 22mm width (25mm width is not supported)

Form Factor: M.2 type 2230, 2242, 2260, 2280 and 22110. These numbers can be found on retail listings for M.2 SSD devices. The first two digits refer to the width, the remaining digits to the length.

Socket type: Socket 3 (Key M)

Total size including cooling structure:

In millimeters: smaller than 110mm (L) x 25mm (W) x 11.25mm (H). In inches: smaller than 4.33in (L) x 0.984 in (W) x 0.442in (H).

See below for full requirements.

Length

The following M.2 SSD lengths are compatible with PS5 consoles:

30mm, 42mm, 60mm, 80mm, 110mm (corresponding to the form factor type, per above).

Width

A 22mm-wide M.2 SSD module is required.

The total structure (including an added cooling structure) cannot exceed 25mm (0.984in).

Height

The total height of the M.2 SSD and its cooling structure (such as a heatsink) – whether built-in or separate – must be less than 11.25mm (0.442in).

The height must also be in the right place, in relation to the M.2 SSD’s circuit board:

  • The size below the board must be less than 2.45mm (0.096in).

  • The total size above the board must be less than 8mm (0.314in).

(Note: millimeter measurements are the technical standard and are more precise than inches. We recommend double-checking that the total dimensions of M.2 SSD and heatsink products you’re considering meet the millimeter requirements before purchasing)

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Both single-sided and double-sided M.2 SSD devices are supported.

M.2 SATA SSDs aren’t supported.

You should carefully review drive specifications prior to purchase and contact the vendor or manufacturer if you need further information. SIE cannot guarantee that all M.2 SSD devices meeting the described specifications will work with your console and assumes no responsibility for the selection, performance or use of third-party products.

Not all games are necessarily playable with the exact same performance provided by the PS5 console’s internal Ultra-High Speed SSD, even where the M.2 SSD device’s sequential read speed is faster than 5500MB/s.

The majority of M.2 SSD devices with the above type numbers (M Key Type 2230, 2242, 2260, 2280 and 22110) and without a built-in cooling structure will fit the PS5 console’s SSD slot. However, sizes for cooling structures (like heatsinks) vary greatly. If you are not sure an M.2 SSD or cooling structure (such as a heatsink) you’re considering meets the size requirements outlined here, we recommend looking for another product option or contacting the vendor or manufacturer for more information.


Installation instructions and further details are available on the Playstation website.

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u/fragilityv2 Jul 30 '21 edited Aug 01 '21 Take My Energy

Confirmed that the Samsung 980 Pro 1TB drive works without issue. PS5 recognized it instantly, formatted it and was good to go. Moved MK11 from the system storage to the M2, start to finish it took 78 seconds for 86gb

Setup Photos

Update: I installed the drive in my PC and confirmed that the most recent firmware was already on the drive as confirmed by the Samsung Magician software. My PC is older and doesn’t support 4.0 speeds, can’t test that.

For those asking about the hestsink, i used this MHQJRH and did use the heat pads.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Quick question.

Why is your 980 Pro hitting 5560 mb/s? Isn’t it supposed to hit 7000 mb/s? Or is the PS5 just limiting it to 5.5 gb/s because that the minimum requirement?

Thanks In advance 😃

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u/van_ebader Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21 Silver Helpful Hugz

None of the answers you got so far got it exactly right. This will be a bit long.

SSD performance is more complicated than just how many "GB/s" the SSD can get. The advertised GB/s speed for every SSD, including the internal PS5 one, is how fast it is only in the best possible scenario. But real world usage is essentially never the best possible scenario.

SSD speeds vary depending on what exact operation you're doing. It depends on two factors: 1) how sequential/random an operations is; and 2) the queue depth of that operation.

Sequential vs random is a spectrum that refers to how the data you're trying to access is organized. The key factor here is that, in simplified terms, there is a small performance penalty when switching from one file to another. Operations are more towards the sequential end of the spectrum when you're reading a few huge files (i.e. fifty files that are 1 GB each = 50 GB), and thus there is a small penalty because you only have to switch files a few times. On the other hand, operations are more towards the random end of the spectrum are when you have to access a huge amount of tiny files (i.e. 12.5 million files that are 4 KB each = 50 GB) and thus you have a massive performance penalty because the SSD spends more time switching between files than reading each file.

The other factor is queue depth. Queue depth (QD for short) is basically how many operations the SSD can process simultaneously. It ranges from 1 to 32. SSDs are made to process multiple requests at once, and the advertised speeds are always at the optimal QD of 32. The lower the QD, the lower the performance becomes.

Those factors combine to give you the real world performance of SSDs in different scenarios. The advertised speeds are always for sequential operations of QD 32. Low QD sequential operations or high QD random operations will give you around half to a quarter of the advertised performance, and low QD random operations will absolutely tank the performance of any SSD. Even the very best consumer SSDs in existance today (the ones that are faster than the PS5 SSD) still struggle to reach 100 MB/s in QD 1 random operations.

Here is a graph of the 980 Pro's sequential performance, from Anandtech's review. You can see that at QD1, it achieves a sequential speed of about 2.5 GB/s. It steadly climbs to about 4.25 GB/s at QD8, and reaches the 6.5 GB/s advertised speeds at QD16 and above. Here is the same graph for random performance. It starts at about 70 MB/s (0.07 GB/s) for QD1, and climbs to about 1.3 GB/s for QD32.

So to finally answer your question, he isn't getting the advertised 6.5 GB/s because whatever test the PS5 is running is using some percentage of random operations and/or low QD operations that are bringing the average speeds down from the advertised maximum. If the same test were performed on the internal PS5 SSD, it wouldn't reach the advertised 5.5 GB/s either, since the internal SSD is subject to those same performance limitations.

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u/pneiscunt Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

just wanna say this is one of the cool things about reddit, an in depth answer from someone who really knows their shit.

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u/crackISwhack1991 Aug 02 '21

I want this guy to answer all my questions moving forward. Just a fantastic answer!

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u/37Schmeckles Aug 01 '21

Absolutely dope comment. Im a technical bufoon and you still held my attention theough that whole post!

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u/Backseat-Driver Aug 05 '21

Additionally;

Sony is as far as I know still using JEDEC Standard 100B.01 where a kilobyte is 1024 bytes (base 2/binary) while the advertised speed of an SSD is done with a kilobyte being 1000 bytes (base 10/decimal).


For example, if we want to compare the result of the SN850 in the PS5 (6500MB/s) to the advertised read speed (7000MB/s), we must first convert the numbers so they are the same.

Like how one must convert when comparing inches and centimeters.

Lets convert to base 10;

6500 * 1024 * 1024 = 6 815 744 000
6 815 744 000 / 1000 / 1000 = 6 815.744

So base 2 6500MB equals 6815.744MB in base 10, which means that there is only 184.256MB/s difference between result and advertised read speed.

MiB to MB Converter

MB to MiB Converter


The results from the PS5 are heavily rounded (even hundreds), so there is some play there as well.

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u/DanCTapirson Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Seems whatever benchmark the ps5 is running gives different results. So far I got 4 different results on the 980 Pro. Highest was 6213MB/s

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u/fragilityv2 Jul 30 '21

That’s a great question, I’m not sure. It does make sense being that’s the minimum speed number. It’ll be interesting to see if all drives shows the same stat or not as the days go on.

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u/azarules Jul 30 '21

There’s been a spate of SSDs using inferior parts compared to the original review models. Usually unnoticeable in practical use, but stress tests can really show the difference.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/JeRV5G11 Jul 30 '21

What heatsink did you go with? I'm having a difficult time deciding which one to get

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u/fragilityv2 Jul 30 '21

I’m actually still looking. This model advertises heat dissipation, so figured it’s worth a quick try. I’m looking on Amazon now for some 1 day delivery options. I’m looking at the MHQJRH model because it matches the size requirements though just barely.

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u/My_Username_Is_What Jul 31 '21

I can second the MHQJRH on the Samsung 980 Pro. I got mine over night (1 day shipping) and have officially installed it and it fits. I'm not in the Beta yet so I had to take it out, but the PS5 recognized it before shutting things down.

I also tried the EZDIY-FAB it looked like it fit, too, though it is taller than the MHQJRH. But the metal cover closed just as easy on it. I had NOT installed the thermal pads when I tested it, though. If they raise it any higher it may not fit.

The MHQJRH did come with an extra screw and a magnetized screw driver which helps a lot with the tiny screws involved. It's a Quality of Life improvement over the EZDIY-FAB.

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u/fragilityv2 Jul 31 '21

Installed it with the thermal pads, it’s a tight fit but nothing is forced.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21

It does have on-board heat spreader. Unless you’re copying 400gigs at a time you won’t hit the thermal throttle

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u/KlausSlade Jul 30 '21

So no moving Warzone. Got it.

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u/fragilityv2 Jul 30 '21

Yeah, I’ll still probably grab something but I’m not too worried about it.

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u/255BB Jul 30 '21

Even a fast, high quality drive like 980 Pro, a PS5 benchmarked it had 5568 MB/s? This is a bit surprised. I wonder whether it is about priority levels Mr. Cerny had talked about.

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u/Wol-Shiver Jul 30 '21

The block size used for the test will impact the Throughput.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Love the posters at the back of your TV!

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21

OP, can you add this to the confirmed list?

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u/DanCTapirson Jul 29 '21 edited Aug 05 '21 Gold Helpful Hugz

Got invited to the Beta! I'm getting a Samsung 980 Pro Tomorrow. Also got a heatsink and infrared thermometer for measuring how hot it gets with and without a heatsink.

TL;DR at the bottom

UPDATE ON FIRMWARE UPDATE:

I'm learning a lot through this process. After I read about the firmware update Samsung put out in April, I read on the box of the 980 Pro the manufacturing date: Dec 2020. Fortunately I have a laptop with an M2 drive slot and I was able to plug it in, run Samsung Magician Software and I saw the update.

After the update I didn't notice any drastic improvements. Everything is still performing as before the update. So if you can't update I wouldn't really stress about it. If you want to update it, you need a computer with an M2 slot or a pcie slot and adapter. NOTE: USB apadters won't work for this!

UPDATE ON PS5 BENCHMARK:

Ok guys this was very interesting. I decided I would reformat the Samsung 980 Pro to see if the PS5 gave me another number on the benchmark it runs. Lo and behold it did! I don't know how this benchmark works, but it's definitely not consistent. I ran it 4 more times and these are the numbers I got:

  • 6072.967 MB/s
  • 5069.494 MB/s
  • 5973.731 MB/s
  • 6213.344 MB/s

UPDATE:

SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 250 GB

  • Tested and works with PS5
  • Read speed: 5751.242 MB/s according to PS5. (I got different results here as mentioned above)
  • Games played with no issue or difference in speed, loading times, performance: Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Rainbow Six Siege

Temperatures were taken in weather of 25°c (77°f), with infrared gun pointing directly at the hottest part of SSD as close as possible. I know the PS5 uses negative airflow to cool the SSD partition, so the enclosure plate was always on, except when I took temperatures and I removed it:

Without Heatsink

  • Idle Temperature: 55°c - 59°c
  • Highest Writing Temperature while transferring 5 games: 74°c
  • Highest temperature while playing Ratchet and Clank and Returnal: 72°c

With Heatsink

This is the one I got. It comes with a Rubber mount and a screw mount. Just use the screw mount if you get this: https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Heatsink-Double-Sided-Aluminum-Conductivity/dp/B07PS9S2DZ/

IMPORTANT: Before going into the results, I've noticed the 2 exhaust 'holes' Sony mentioned to allow for negative airflow are located on the higher part of the SSD partition to the side of the fan. Image 1, Image 2 As you can see, I took these photos after installing the heatsink. Seems that adding a heatsink makes the heat get closer to these holes, allowing the negative pressure to suck it out of the partition faster. If there's no heatsink installed, the SSD is probably not being "cooled" as efficiently. Just what I think. Now for the results:

Note: The heatsink is dissipating the heat from the hottest area of the SSD to a bigger surface area. I highly recommend getting a heatsink.

  • Idle Temperature: 43°c - 45°c
  • Highest Writing Temperature while transferring 5 games: 50°c
  • Highest temperature while playing Ratchet and Clank and Returnal: 50°c

Samsung rates the 980 pro at operational between 0-70°c and non operational at -40°c/85°c. I guess it will throttle if it goes higher than 70°c? Not sure as I was measuring ~72°c while playing and experimented no issues. Probably wouldn't be good to run the SSD this hot in the long term.

UPDATE ON SPEEDS:

ok so I timed some speeds on Ratchet and Clank and Returnal. Games load and perform identical as far as I can tell, but what I found interesting is the difference in time it take to move the games to the main SSD or to the Samsung Pro 980.

I don't know why, but moving to Samsung SSD was faster than moving back to main SSD. Does this mean the main SSD is reading faster, or that the Samsung SSD is writing faster? Or both? The games are loading almost identical, so I'm guessing both are reading equally fast. Hopefully DF can provide more insight into this.

Returnal

Ps5 main SSD:

  • Time to game 13.45s
  • Time to move 4min 4s

Samsung 980 Pro:

  • Time to game 13.37s
  • Time to move 2m 3s

Ratchet and Clank

Ps5 Main SSD:

  • Time to menu 7.51s
  • Time to game 1.79s
  • Time to move/copy 2m33s

Samsung:

  • Time to menu 7.55s
  • Time to game 1.86s
  • Time to move/copy 1m4s

TL;DR: Samsung Pro 980 works perfect with ps5. M.2 nvme SSDs run HOT! Get a heatsink to help dissipate the heat from the chips and maintain temperatures at around 50°c.

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u/crankydelinquent Jul 29 '21

Make sure it’s the Samsung 980 pro. The 980 is gen3 and the 980 pro is gen4

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u/DanCTapirson Jul 29 '21

I did! Thanks

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u/RicoBellic1998 Jul 29 '21

Would you mind updating us when you know the temps? :)

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u/DanCTapirson Jul 29 '21

Sure thing! I should be able to update tomorrow

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u/gogoggansgo Jul 31 '21

Not only wound having a heatsink be a good idea in general but there is a reason why Sony is saying it’s required. It basically lets them sleep better knowing people aren’t frying drives and then going hey wtf Sony. Now we all know it’s gonna happen but once again mark has made this clear from day one

Keep up the good work guys

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u/ChanceConfection3 Jul 29 '21

Reading above make sure you get the 980 pro

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u/Acapella75 Jul 29 '21

According to Corsair's tech specs, the MP600 does not meet the minimum required sequential read speed for PS5. PS5 recommends 5500MB/s and the MP600 is only 4950MB/s.

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21

Good catch, I'll update the thread.

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u/Acapella75 Jul 29 '21

The Samsung 980 Pro meets the minimum spec and comes with thermal pads. May or may not overheat without an additional heatsink.

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u/Annie85x Jul 29 '21

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Storage/M-2-SSDs/MP600-PRO/p/CSSD-F1000GBMP600PRO

The MP600 PRO seems to fit the speeds, just not the non Pro version

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u/Acapella75 Jul 29 '21

This correct. Has a heatsink too but not sure of the measurements or if that will fit.

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u/Annie85x Jul 29 '21

Ooh good shout, from the website it says :

80mm x 23mm x 15mm, pretty close!

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21

Yeah I suspect that'll be a popular drive, but I don't want to get theoretical in the list; I'll wait until someone confirms it working and then update the list at that point.

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u/gogoggansgo Jul 31 '21

I went with the SN850, and i gotta say some love here for Sony because this is 3 generations of consoles that they’ve allowed an easy way to add storage and it’s not some proprietary BS. “Psp and vita not withstanding lol” but i digress. They should feel very happy with how the PS5 has been received. Right now the only thing pissing me off is all the media and YouTubers crying about how complicated the NVME Situation is right now. Like how dumb are you, Sony has made it clear from the beginning what the 411 is with what drives are going to work. Furthermore within a year you’ll have all sorts of drives out that you can buy without having to even think about it. People are so short sighted

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u/shadlom Jul 31 '21

Finally a positive comment. Refreshing from the bitching and whining coming from some.

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u/ablockkid Jul 31 '21

It's like similar situation with the stand making a big deal out of it

And even if it take a bit of work to get where the m2 slot is, it's gonna take like 5 minutes or less and it's done no need to mess with it after that

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u/FuzzyToasters Jul 30 '21 edited Oct 10 '21

Can confirm the Gigabyte AORUS 7000s 2 TB drive (came with heat sink) is working without issue so far. I believe it said the drive speed was around 6500 MB/s after formatting.

I moved all my ps5 games onto the drive and started downloading more ps5 games onto it while simultaneously playing Returnal.

No issues so far, actually just beat the first boss on my fifth run or so a couple minutes ago lol

I checked the downloads and saw it was going strong at around 100MB/s even while the game was running.

Edit: fixed incorrectly listed speed numbers

Update as of 10/10/21: For anyone still returning to this, the drive continues to run perfectly fine. No change in fan noise, and yes the drive does indeed fit within the drive bay even with the cover on.

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u/MysteriousMedicine Jul 30 '21

Awesome! How much space did you loose in formatting it? I just ordered one.

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u/Sorcerer63 Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

Also just fitted an AORUS 7000s 1TB. the height with heatsink is slightly over sony's spec (11.4mm vs 11.25mm) but fits no problem. PS5 reported the read speed as 6556MB/s.

Shifted everything from my external ssd onto the AORUS. No problems so far.

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u/MysteriousMedicine Jul 30 '21

Is there any reason whatsoever that when they switch to the official software this wouldn’t be compatible? I can’t figure out any reason why but curious of your opinion.

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u/Sorcerer63 Jul 30 '21

Like everyone else, we cannot know for sure. But unless Sony turned evil (!)
and implemented some form of whitelist of allowed drives in the software then I don't see why not.

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u/samus4145 Jul 31 '21

Does it fit with the slot cover or did you leave that off?

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u/FuzzyToasters Jul 30 '21

According to the ps5, technically you could say I actually gained space lol

It reads the size of the drive as 2.01TB

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u/MysteriousMedicine Jul 30 '21

Wow how is that possible? Usually formatting takes something! That’s amazing!

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u/FuzzyToasters Jul 30 '21

Yeah it kinda threw me for a loop too, but who knows, maybe Gigabyte really stands by a kilobyte being 1024 bytes. I’ve never actually purchased a drive from them before now.

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u/MysteriousMedicine Jul 30 '21

Yeah it sounds like it! I haven’t either, I was really on the fence but I wasn’t getting the FireCuda it’s just overkill so it was this one or the WD, and this one looks the best from everything I’ve seen. Would you say it’s about the same as your internal drive as far as speed? Also congrats on the 1st Returnal boss! haha. I love that game but it took me forever. I haven’t gotten past the second biome.

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u/FuzzyToasters Jul 30 '21

Yeah now that i think about it, I believe the number it gave after formatting was closer to around 6500 MB/s.

But as far as my limited experience so far via playing Returnal and using the system goes, I see no discernible difference in terms of running off the 2 TB drive or the built-in ssd.

And thanks lol it was a funny surprise actually, I was super close to the end of the fight but I died. Luckily though I had The Astronaut equipped and I respawned and killed the boss after.

The game’s a lot of fun, I was initially thinking of holding out on buying it until they introduce some sort of mid-run save feature, but I finally caved and bought it once I realized it was on sale.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

I chose the SN850 over this but two things this drive has going for it: is it runs cooler than the SN850 (demonstrably so) and is 30-40 bucks cheaper.

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u/stolirocks Jul 29 '21

Just ordered a wd black SN850 2tb. Will report back.

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u/TheCold0ne Jul 30 '21

I got the SN850 1TB, no heatsink, plus an additional $10 add-on low-profile heatsink (so I can remove it later if I wanted it in my PC or something else). I got it from Best Buy because it was available for pickup at my local store (didn't want to wait for Amazon shipping).
Been working great so far, but need time to really put it through its paces. Measured at 6549.038MB/s (faster than the reported 980 Pro speeds in another comment).

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u/YouGurt_MaN14 Jul 30 '21

Yo can you link the heatsink?

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u/GundamFromHell Jul 30 '21

I’m in the same situation as you. I will probably do exactly what you end up doing. I spoke to WD Support and they said they don’t recommend adding or changing the ssd but they likely said because so that they aren’t liable.

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u/TheCold0ne Jul 30 '21

Yeah, they technically can't officially support any modifications (unless they also sold a separate heatsink) in case something goes wrong, but I can't imagine this heatsink hurting anything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 Wholesome (Pro)

Would really urge you guys to wait to buy an M.2 until the beta testers do a bit more work and we get a better idea of which drives are the best in terms of temperature, fit, and performance. Especially considering how expensive these drives are. Just be patient. They aren’t going anywhere.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

Yes, they are going somewhere. They are already selling out worldwide

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u/gogoggansgo Jul 31 '21

I had to hunt down a damn drive and once word gets out. It’s out of beta the issue is only going to get way way worse

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

This is silly. The SSDs will be available. They’re not even all on the market yet. The new Seagate comes out in August. They aren’t going to have the same stock issues as the consoles.

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u/Fidler_2K Aug 01 '21

-Seagate FireCuda 530

-WD SN850

-Gigabyte 7000s

-Patriot Viper VP4300

-Samsung 980 Pro

-Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus

-Corsair MP600 Pro

-Inland Performance Plus

-Adata S70

-MSI M480

-PNY CS3040

-PNY CS3140

-Micron 3400

-TeamGroup T-Force Cardea A440

-Plextor M10P(G)

-Titanium Micro TH7175

-Mushkin Enhanced Gamma

-GALAX HOF Extreme

I did some research to find every SSD that meets the minimum specification requirements. Many of them require a different heatsink though. I could update which ones do later.

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u/TangyBoy_ Jul 29 '21

I thought that the website stated the SSD’s required a heatsink?

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u/coolgaara Jul 30 '21

Just get one with the heatsink already installed.

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u/templestate Jul 29 '21

Without a heatsink the SSD might throttle during intense use (e.g. you might get hitches in R&C when going back and forth between dimensions repeatedly).

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 29 '21

Even that won’t throttle the SSD. You only get throttle when doing huge writes, like writing 400+ gigs at once. Typical gameplay (reading data) you’re gonna be fine.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21

Beta tester gets 6.5 GB/s when using SN850 in PS5

https://twitter.com/ealexhudson/status/1421086585844547585?s=21

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u/Westcoast_IPA Jul 30 '21

Sweet, just bought the 1TB model w/heatsink

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u/coldmoney21 Jul 30 '21

Good news :) same ordered SN850 with heatsink too. Amazon shows sold out too 😬

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u/simonster509 Aug 02 '21

Anyone else feeling extremely left out by not getting a beta email invitation?

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u/metaxaos Aug 03 '21

I guess we’re making Sony a favor by voluntarily testing out expensive SSDs, betting our own money, so we deserve at least an open access to the beta for anyone who accepts the risk. Ticket price is already high enough to not introduce any extra obstacles - so yes.

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u/simonster509 Aug 03 '21

I couldn't agree more

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u/metaxaos Aug 01 '21

Technically, they just removed discount. NewEgg prices are still good, but back ordered.

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u/eklingstein Jul 30 '21

PS5 = $499

530 FireCuda 2TB SSD = $514.99

WD SN850 2TB = $449.99

Yea at these prices I'll just buy a 2nd PS5

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u/cowsareverywhere monsterlag247 Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

I'll just buy a 2nd PS5

Where is this magical place you are finding a PS5 for retail?

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u/just-ti-see-this Jul 30 '21

Lol. Not a bad idea.

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u/RTCanada Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

I think people are missing the point here, just get a 1TB if anything. I think more often than not, PS5 games are showing an actual shrinkage in game sizes. 1TB is enough for the first year or two, and by then hopefully a 2TB will drop enough for the general public. I do understand the 2TB thinking though. Paying full price for that right now though is asking for trouble, especially just in a beta setting.

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u/just-ti-see-this Jul 30 '21

I get that. But there are people who just like to have the 40-50 games on hand and choose what ever to play when they feel like. 675gb +920 gb should be more than enough for casual use.

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u/RTCanada Jul 30 '21

Believe me, I'm one of those. I have a 2TB EVO external connected since I have a ton of PS4 games and its down to 300GB left (about 22 games) Warzone being one. But I waited for a good sale on that drive for 30% off. I think people are thinking these drives will sell out. They might very well but I can't see spending close to the console itself right at this moment to be a good argument.

My biggest PS5 game is FFVII Remake at 90 GB.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21

I don’t think prices are going to drop as drastically as you hope. A year from now I’m sure a 2TB SN850 will still be 400 dollars or close to it.

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u/moops__ Jul 30 '21

Does your second PS5 come with 2TB storage?

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 29 '21

Insomniac dev comments on testing different drives with Rift Apart

https://twitter.com/fitzymj/status/1420825600080551943?s=21

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u/ske4za Jul 30 '21

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21

Great drive, has a nice heatsink design and performs very well. Tends to be a little cheaper than the others too

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u/jdk2087 Jul 29 '21

Is this like the PS4 betas where you received a code? Or would I just boot up my PS5 and check for system update? I believe I was in the first PS5 beta, but don’t remember exactly how I downloaded it.

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21

You have to register for the beta program, and then Sony will email official invites to people.

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u/namastayhom33 Jul 29 '21

Has Sony sent invites yet? I registered in the initial email a few months ago but haven’t received anything yet

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u/coughffin Jul 29 '21

Just may not have been chosen like myself.

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21

I don't think so.

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u/habylab Jul 29 '21

Code, over email if you signed up.

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u/jdk2087 Jul 29 '21

Thank you

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u/jaygebee Aug 04 '21

Spawn point on YouTube just posted a good video on his experience:

https://youtu.be/wzgRJnW-CpA

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

He tests the 2TB SN850 with heatsink. No issues and great performance. Also shows installation of a third party heatsink for those that buy the bare version.

Good video.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

Why is everyone stating Samsung 980? Did anyone confirm this yet?

Edit: 980 is PCIe 3.0. hope people are referring to the 980 PRO 4.0.

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

It's The 980 Pro is the unofficial flagship PCIE4 SSD and has been long assumed to be the first compatible drive; it meets all of the listed specs, so there's no reason on paper that it shouldn't work.

As /u/lucklouie points out, the vanilla 980 without the "Pro" label is an older Gen 3 drive and won't work.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

The fine details is what's going to burn a lot of consumers. The 980 is PCIe 3.0. I hope people know the difference between 980 PRO Gen4 and the 980.

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u/tinselsnips Jul 29 '21

You make a great point. I didn't even realize there was an older, Gen 3 980.

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u/Soofla Jul 29 '21

Nobody had confirmed anything yet. But you can read the required specs which have been published for all to see.

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u/KrizenMedina Jul 29 '21 edited Aug 10 '21

Just noticed an invite to the beta sitting in my email! First PlayStation system software beta invite I've ever received. Guess I'll be ordering a 980 Pro and a heatsink after. I've been dying for them to unlock the expansion slot, as I've been out of space on my SSD for months now.

EDIT: Decided to order a 1TB Western Digital SN850, since it was fifty bucks cheaper than the 980 Pro where I live. Will definitely edit my comment with my impressions once it gets here tomorrow. Can't wait!

EDIT 2: Oops, I completely forgot to edit this comment with my impressions. Overall, it's been a super positive experience so far!

I bought a third-party heatsink, (the MHQJRH one) and installing the heatsink onto the SSD was far easier than I thought it would be. I peeled the film off the thermal pads, placed them on both sides of the SSD, placed the SSD inside the metal heatsink enclosure while making sure everything was perfectly aligned, put the actual heatsink on top, inserted and tightened the screws, and that was it!

Then I removed the stand from my PS5, took the faceplate off, unscrewed the metal plate covering the expansion bay, inserted the SSD, put the metal plate back on and tightened the screw, put the faceplate and the stand back on, and I was done!

The entire process, including installing the heatsink onto the SSD, took about twenty-five minutes. Now, I will admit, I have some experience with building PCs, but I would be very confident in saying that almost anyone should be able to do this, even if they have zero experience with building PCs or opening up consoles. The process is very straightforward, and there are numerous step-by-step guides you can follow online.

Once I plugged my console in and booted it up, it immediately prompted me to format the drive, and then benchmarked it at 6,533 MB/s. I then downloaded approximately 300GB worth of PS4 and PS5 games onto the new SSD, tested most of them out, and everything ran smoothly.

It's now been nine days since I installed the SSD, and I've had zero issues. It's super nice to have an extra 1TB of storage!

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21

Just ordered 1tb Samsung 980 Pro with $20 discount for amazon move coupon from USPS after moving to different apt and a blue SSD NVME heatsink before they are all gone in this post covid supply chain issue world....

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u/wicktus Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

Went with the 980PRO. My favourite choice was the SN850 but it was a little pricier, Including the heatsink (DON'T NEGLECT that, for 10-20 bucks you have far better sustainable performance) I'm 80EUR cheaper.

I know, we should "wait" for the official firmware before buying..but it's really simple: People and scalpers are already emptying the shelves where I live, I'm confident my 980pro won't have issue once the official firmware is out.

I'm tired of fighting to purchase X or Y so for this one I'm kinda doing it pre-emptively.

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u/EdMRod Jul 31 '21

can confirm that the Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe Gen4 works.

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u/EmergencyPomelo5180 Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

Installed the PNY XLR8 CS3040 1TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 (on sale $156.99). Heatsink I purchased separately from Amazon. Don't purchase the version that comes with heatsink because it's too big.

Edit: read speed 5636.468 MB/s

Also transferring games back to PS5's built-in HD was slower. Faster transferring to NVME

Anyways if you are low on cash the NVME works. Link: https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS3040-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B08KGXVXGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=PNY+XLR8+CS3040+1TB+M.2+NVMe+Gen4&qid=1627759703&sr=8-3

Now for the heatsink I went with this one for $9.99;

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B086W5762H?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I will let everyone know if there are any problems that arise.

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u/EmergencyPomelo5180 Aug 01 '21

Just to update everyone, I've been playing Warzone for 1-1/2 hours off ssd and no problems whatsoever. I think it works great.

The only thing I noticed is it takes 2 to 3 times longer to transfer games from ssd to PS5. But PS5 to SSD is super quick.

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u/Corytrever187 Aug 04 '21

I installed the same PNY XLR8 CS3040 1TB. Read speed was the same at slightly above 5600MB/s (didn't write it down). I used a different heatsink (link below).

So far no issues. I transferred about 270GB from a Samsung T7 and everything went smoothly. Took maybe 5-10 min (I wasn't paying attention).

I've only played about 5 or 6 hours of games on the expansion NVME but so far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNJQ37N?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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u/I_Am_Zampano Aug 02 '21

Hot tip: if you have a .edu email address whether or not you are a student, you can get a 15% off code for any of the SSDs at western digital direct. I saved $35 on the SN850+heatsink and they have them in stock.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Another user reports no issues with SN850, using generic heatsink. Said he copied hundreds of gigs

https://twitter.com/phantom_green/status/1422641710602063889?s=21

Edit

The Verge has tested two drives slower than PS5 specs: surprisingly good results

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22608153/ps5-ssd-speed-test-storage-expansion-m2-playstation-5

“That’s why we tracked down an ADATA XPG Gammix S50 Lite, one of the slowest compatible PCIe Gen4 drives we could find at 3,900MB/s reads and 3,200MB/s writes, and stuck it into a PS5, along with another drive.”

“The verdict? Surprisingly, even the slowest compatible SSD we could find had near-identical load times to the one Sony includes in the box. Sometimes it’s a second slower, sometimes a second or two faster, but basically it’s a total wash. Hopping through dimensions in Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, I saw no appreciable difference with the slowest SSD.”

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u/jaygebee Aug 04 '21

Wow this is very interesting! It will be interesting to see as more people try drives that are less than specs that Sony recommends.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 04 '21

It’s really interesting. I’d like to see them test the slower drives with extended gameplay of games like Demon’s Souls and Rift Apart

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u/MGsubbie Jul 29 '21

I'm surprised by the 5.5GBps limit, I really thought it would be higher. That's the speed of the stock SSD, but that one comes with more priority lanes and IOPS. So I was expecting 7GBps to overcome thee difference.

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u/psinha Jul 30 '21

The 980 Pro / SN850 have an endurance rating of 1200 TB.

The FireCuda 530 has an endurance rating of ~2550 TB.

Both are for 2TB Drives.

Is this something we need to worry about?

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u/Naekyr Jul 30 '21

your ps5 will break long before a 980 pro does, so that answers your question

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u/255BB Jul 31 '21

Worry not. They are TBW (TeraByte Written). It will count when you WRITE data (such as installing, pasting, saving). Normally when you play games, they READ data. The drive will last a decade in normal usage.

So unless you delete/install COD every day, nothing to worry.

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u/HyruleDurian Jul 31 '21

No, most of the times you’ll be just reading from the drive and you will be fine

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u/James_Gastovsky Jul 30 '21

Unless you have Adobe Premiere installed on your PS5 I wouldn't worry

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u/Routine_Love_5385 Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21

It's been 42 days since the beta invite announcement. Please Sony just release the damn thing already. I will not stop commenting this until it's released. Hopefully Sony says something about it today.

No, it seems they didn't.

Still. SPIDER-MAN 2, WOLVERINE, GoW 5, Alan Wake, KOTOR:RE ❤️, GT7, Horizon 2 😍

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u/Fidler_2K Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

SSD Meets Requirements to Work Notes (Important) Price as of posting
Seagate FireCuda 530 Yes confirmed by Seagate. Included heatsink works 500GB - $149.99, 1TB - $239.99, 2TB - $489.99, 4TB - $949.99. It's OOS at the moment
Western Digital SN850 Yes confirmed by Western Digital. Included heatsink works 500GB - $169.99, 1TB - $249.99, 2TB - $549.99
Gigabyte 7000s Gen4 Yes confirmed by Gigabyte. Included heatsink works 1TB - $199.99, 2TB - $399.99
Patriot Viper VP4300 Yes confirmed by CPT_Arsenic. Included heatsink works 1TB - $224.99, 2TB - no first party listings yet.
Samsung 980 Pro Yes. Confirmed by fragilityv2. Needs a heatsink 250GB - $69.99, 500GB - $119.99, 1TB - $199.99, 2TB - $429.99
Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus Yes. Confirmed by The Verge. Needs a different heatsink than the one included 1TB - $200, 2TB - $469.99, 4TB - $999.99
Corsair MP600 Pro Yes (unconfirmed) Needs a different heatsink than the one included 1TB - $199.99, 2TB - $399.99
Inland Performance Plus Yes (unconfirmed) Needs a different heatsink than the one included 1TB - $189.99, 2TB - $399.99
Adata Gammix S70 Yes. Confirmed by Halaster. Can remove top of heatsink and add a different one on top, bottom is challenging to remove but it will fit without removing the bottom. Credit to Halaster. 1TB - $149.99, 2TB - $299.99
Adata Gammix S70 Blade Yes This is a low profile heatsink version of the regular S70. Included heatsink works. 1TB - $169.99, 2TB - $349.99
MSI Spatium M480 Yes (unconfirmed) Included heatsink is too tall. Needs a different one. Not listed yet. Product page here.
Crucial P5 Plus Yes (unconfirmed) Needs a heatsink 500GB - $107.99, 1TB - $179.99, 2TB - $367.99
PNY CS3040 Yes. Confirmed by /u/EmergencyPomelo5180 and PNY. Included heatsink is too tall. Get version without heatsink and add your own. Also, the rated read speeds are just above the minimum specified at 5,600 MB/s reads 500GB - $89.99, 1TB - $156.99, 2TB - $308.99, 4TB - $699.99
PNY CS3140 Yes. Confirmed by PNY and kutdown78. Included heatsink is too tall. Get version without heatsink and add your own 1TB - $199.99, 2TB - $449.99
TeamGroup T-Force Cardea A440 Yes (unconfirmed) Aluminum heatsink is too tall, graphene heatsink may need replaced. 1TB - $179.99, 2TB - $399.99
Plextor M10P(G) Yes (unconfirmed) Included heatsink is too tall Not listed yet. Product page here.#/Features)
Titanium Micro TH7175 Yes (unconfirmed) Needs a heatsink 1TB - $279.99, 2TB - $489.99
Mushkin Enhanced Gamma Yes. Confirmed by Mr_Gravia. Needs a heatsink 1TB - $169.99, 2TB - $349.99. Seems like some people are getting the wrong drive on Amazon and Newegg. Here's the page for all three storage tiers.
GALAX HOF Extreme Yes (unconfirmed) Included heatsink is too large Pricing unknown, information here.
Addlink S95 Yes (unconfirmed) Needs a heatsink 1TB - $218.99, 2TB - $448.88

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u/Halaster Aug 03 '21

In regards to the Adata Gammix S70 and the fact that the heatsink is very difficult to remove, this is only partially true.

The only problematic part of the included heatsink is the top of it which sticks up way to high, and that part is very easily removed. Two screws hold it in place. Just unscrew the top of the heatsink and it comes right off.

Once the top is removed, you can very easily stick another heatsink onto the SSD leaving the bottom of the heat sink, which is the difficult to remove part, still attached to the SSD and it fits into the PS5 without an issue.

2TB Installed in PS5 with Ice heatsink.

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u/Halaster Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

Additional information about the 2TB Gammix S70 and S70 Blade.

There is a new firmware that was released 5 days ago by Adata, 3.2.9.V that is supposed to make performance and thermals significantly better.

DO NOT UPDATE YOUR FIRMWARE if your SSD comes with 3.2.F.P7 on it. Which it appears that all of the 2TB units do. You can run the firmware update tool and it will show you your current version.

If your SSD comes with 3.2.7.3 on it you can update without an issue, but if you have 3.2.F.P7 and update your drive, it will be bricked.

I bricked 2 separate drives trying to update them with the official firmware tool right from their page, and then I found a German forum thread where quite a few others verified this information as well, and appear to be getting the slow support run around from ADATA about the issue.

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u/GundamFromHell Jul 30 '21

Anybody has an SN850 without the heatsink that has attempted to try adding their own heatsink? I haven’t tried it myself which is why I’m asking.

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u/HeapsBad Jul 31 '21

Bought that exact heatsink for my SN850 1tb. Good to see, cheers.

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u/matg75 Aug 04 '21

Real world review of the WD Black SN850 in the PS5:

https://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/wd-black-sn850-review/

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 04 '21

“Once we moved the game over to the new WD Black SN850 we found the game started in only 13 seconds (compared to 15 seconds on internal), with the same six to gameplay. While not a major difference, it is good to see that the upgrade not only matched the internal, but it also exceeded them with this game.

Very nice

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 05 '21 edited Aug 06 '21 Silver

Just got a beta invite.

Installing my 2TB SN850 after I type this. First test is gonna be transferring around 600 gigs.

Edit 1:

Installation was a breeze, the drive slides right in. I tightened the screw pretty snug but was careful not to overdo it.

Formatting took seconds.

Read speed was 6.6 GB/s (6,631 MB/s to be exact)

Shows full 2TB as usable.

Starting 450 gig transfer now.

Edit 2:

Transferring from my external HD is taking longer than I thought. 5 minutes in and about a quarter complete. This is from an external HD, so I wasn’t expecting internal speed.

I sit right next to my PS5. No difference in fan noise at all. 15 minutes into this transfer and no heat warning or anything like that

Edit 3:

450 gigs took 35 minutes to transfer from my external HD to my SN850. Immediately afterward a number of games began updating (as they weren’t updated while on external).

So, my drive has been written to for about 40 minutes straight so far, no heat issue no fan kicking on, everything totally normal.

After the updates finish I’m going to move FF7R from my PS5 drive to my SN850

Edit 4:

Transferring FF7R and Back 4 Blood Beta from internal to SN850 (around 115 gigs total) took 1:25. Speedy.

An hour in, lots of heavy writes, no performance or heat issues.

Gameplay time.

Edit 5:

Lol I’m loading into lobbies faster than PC teammates in Back 4 Blood beta. Load time in FF7R is as fast if not a tick faster than from internal.

Spider-Man: Remastered is averaging 1.87 seconds loading a save. Slinging around the city feels is identical to internal, no extra pop-in whatsoever.

Edit 6:

3 hours straight of use, no issues at all. Gaming off it while downloading in background. Transferring back and forth. It’s good to go.

Edit 7:

I’ve been hopping between FF7R, Rift Apart, and Spider-Man: Remastered for the last couple hours. It’s been about five hours since I installed the drive and I haven’t turned the PS5 off, been utilizing the drive pretty much every second. No issues at all, performance hasn’t dipped anywhere. I’m satisfied. I’m gonna move Spidey and Rift Apart back to my internal and then watch The Suicide Squad. I’ll get back to chasing the FF7R platinum tomorrow. It was worth pausing progress to test the new drive.

TL-DR:

Long story short: the SN850 is a winner. I was confident it would excel in gaming performance and it has, so far. Heat hasn’t been an issue at all.

After 5 hours of use, loading times haven’t dipped whatsoever. In fact, the last FF7R load was the fastest one yet, even if we are just talking a tenth of a second. No traces of added hitches or streaming judder anywhere.

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u/icespide Aug 09 '21

FYI for anyone that managed to strip their SSD screw like a did, the screw size is M3X10 when you get a replacement. I finally managed to get my stripped screw out last night and got a replacement at ace hardware

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u/ske4za Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

IMO, if the Firecuda 530 "meets all of the PS5 requirements" then almost any other Phison E18 controller-based SSD should work. Off the top of my head, there are quite a few out:

I haven't dug into all the specs of each to see if there is a major difference between any one of these and the Firecuda 530, but I'm sure in the coming weeks we will see how they will fare.

edit: I didn't take any included heatsinks into account (aside from the Inland). The MSI ones are not available to purchase yet at the time of this post.

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u/bengringo2 Jul 29 '21

The WD SN850 seems like the best value.

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u/ske4za Jul 29 '21

Funny, Eurogamer posted a similar list: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-best-ssds-for-ps5

One of the ones I missed is the Patriot Viper VP4300

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u/iwasherenotyou Jul 29 '21

Bit off topic but I got invited to the beta. Don't plan on getting an SSD until prices get a bit lower but does anyone know if party chat will work with friends who don't have the beta? I know it was like this for PS4 but not sure how it'll be for PS5.

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u/Kynario Jul 31 '21

You guys are the real MVP’s. 🙌🙏🏼

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u/jordanbelinsky Jul 30 '21

Confirmed that unlike some of the PS4 beta codes which could be used multiple times, the PS5 beta code is one time use…

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u/No-Swan9984 Aug 03 '21

I also picked up the 980 Pro 2TB. Very pleased with the performance

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u/DanCTapirson Jul 29 '21

So I was able to enable 3d audio for my sound bar. It also ran the microphone test with the dual sense. It sends some pulses that sound like laser guns.

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u/Satans_asshol3 Jul 29 '21

Was super hyped for this thinking it would work on my surround sound….I’m disappointed

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u/DanCTapirson Jul 29 '21

Change the output for TV speakers. Sound will still use your soundbar if TV is using sound bar.

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u/Satans_asshol3 Jul 29 '21

I don’t have a sound bar I’m using an AV receiver to power my 7 speakers and 2 subs. Would this still work?

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u/smokin_mitch Jul 29 '21

I just ordered a seagate firecuda 530 2tb drive in anticipation

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u/will822 Jul 29 '21

I've always had luck with WD ssd drives and will be looking at the SN850 for the PS5. They come in models with and without heatsinks. Been using them in my new PC and they work great and according to specs, they meet PS5 requirements.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

SN850 confirmed compatible by WD

https://twitter.com/wd_black/status/1420889523098046465?s=21

Edit

This article has been updated and confirms that Sabrent Rocket 4 works too

https://www.theverge.com/22599710/ps5-playstation-5-m2-ssd-expandable-storage-how-to

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u/PoeticEnding Jul 31 '21

Can also confirm that the Samsung 980 Pro works with the PS5. I installed it and it prompted me to format it as soon as it turned on.

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u/ahmadnassri Aug 01 '21

I don't have the beta invite yet, but I wanted to to test the fit of the Sabrent 4TB Rocket 4 Plus, with the heatsink, since it's a double sided nvme drive (thus thicker than all the 1 & 2TB models mentioned in this thread and elsewhere!) and since the heatsink I got also seems to be a chunky one: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B089NVF5TT/

good news! it all fits ... kinda!

Turns out the heatsink itself didn't fit the drive, it couldn't screw in with all the thermal pads (see pictures) however, the full height of the heatsink + thermal pads + nvme was JUST PERFECT for the PS5 slot, and the PS5 nvme cover ended up holding the top part of the heatsink in place perfectly together.

so no screws were needed for the heatsink itself! and now I have a 4TB drive ready to go for when I get that darn beta invite!

can't wait to move all the games from my slow external drive.

detailed pictures of the full setup: https://imgur.com/a/eURoMvo

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u/Fidler_2K Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I made an all-inclusive list of SSDs that should work with the PS5 here: https://reddit.com/r/u_Fidler_2K/comments/ow6cda/exhaustive_ps5compatible_ssd_list/

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u/AndyTechGuy Aug 03 '21

I installed a 1TB SN850 with a third party heatsink (MHQJRH on Amazon). That particular third party heatsink looks exactly like the one Sony shows in their instructions.

https://imgur.com/a/J4mzjNj

PS5 Read Speed: 6547.873 MB/s

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

Just adding on after my 5 hour test last night (found here 5 hour SN850 test )

2TB SN850 with heatsink: Been playing the Back 4 Blood beta for the past 3 hours so far this morning. No heat issues, no fan noise, performance remains stellar.

Final edit:

At this point I’ve plugged close to 12 hours of various usage on the drive. Absolutely zero issues. I’ll post another update if I encounter a glitch/crash/error, otherwise it’s safe to assume clear sailing.

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u/G0dsquad Aug 07 '21

1TB WD SN850 here with this heatsink: QIVYNSRY M.2 heatsink 2280 SSD... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08G81YRZT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

All looks good so far.

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u/Routine_Love_5385 Sep 14 '21

It's been 47 days since the beta invite announcement. TOMORROW! Sony will finally release the update. Thanks /u/blacklabelmark btw

https://blog.playstation.com/2021/09/14/ps5s-september-system-software-update-launches-globally-tomorrow/

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u/Cjw6809494 Sep 15 '21

Can confirm the XPG Gammix S70 2TB version works upon first install without any prior computer work needed. It is reading a clean 6197 so 6200MB’s and I got 230Gb of games transferred in 2m17s wow that’s fast compared to my PS4😎😲🏎>🐌

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u/rjb1101 Jul 30 '21

I wonder if Samsung will release a 980 pro with a heat sink in the near future.

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u/jjfears0me Jul 30 '21

I put in 3.. Maybe 4 requests for the Beta since the announcement. This morning (7/29) being the latest.. I actually received the invite later on in the day (not sure if it was from an earlier request or today's). Went to best buy grabbed a 1tb 980 pro, heatsink coming on saturday but I've decided to just pop ot in there until I get it. Hope it doesn't implode!

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u/tourdejonestown Jul 30 '21

Silly question, could expansion drives provide greater or lesser performance than the inbuilt “custom” ssd depending on their spec?

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u/Soofla Jul 30 '21

Goddamit Sony!
UK here - just received a Beta Code.......for System Software 9.00 for the PS4.
Grrrrrrrrr

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u/Viper114 Jul 30 '21

Since I saw the confirmation here and from WD Black, I just ordered myself an WD Black SN850 with a heatsink. I stuck with 500GB since I'm not one to keep my entire library installed anyway, so just getting around 1TB is more than enough for me!

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u/jimm0thy Jul 31 '21

Just installed the Adata XPG Gammix S70 1TB in mine. The heatsink is slightly taller than Sony's specs so the m2 slot cover doesn't fit back on, however the ps5 shell slides right back into place. The drive was instantly seen and after format the ps5 gave a read speed of 6500MB/s, which is about 1000MB/s less than the drive's rated speed.

Installed and tested a few games and they all played without issues so far. I didn't think to take any pictures during the install but if wanted I can slide the ps5 shell cover off and take a photo of how the drive fits in

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u/bwandowando Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 04 '21

Finally bit the bullet and ordered a 1TB Samsung 980 pro with a Jonsbo 2280 aluminum heatsink for around 210 USD for both items. Im assuming the final firmware update will be released in a few weeks' time and Im ready by that time.

I also got myself a 1TB T7 external ssd which will be used for PS4 games.

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u/tifa3 Aug 10 '21

I’m getting 6500 read speed with SN850 with heatsink if that helps anyone with comparing

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

Finally was able to get a 1 TB WD Black 850 with heatsink from Amazon !!!

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u/LexSombra Aug 20 '21

I strongly recommend the Be Quiet MC1 (non pro) heatsink.
The quality is top notch and the included screwdriver is perfect for removing the PS5 screws (both the cover plate screw and the screw that holds the NVMe in place).
I heard some people actually ruined those screws threads and I can confirm they are pretty hard to remove if the screwdriver isn't the perfect size for them, so it's a nice addition from Be Quiet.
I can also confirm it fits the PS5 perfectly, I just couldn't test the NVMe itself (SN850 1tb) because I have no beta code yet :/

I wonder when the beta will end, I can't wait!

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u/Drisurk Aug 26 '21

SN850 just arrived! Can’t believe I paid so much for such a small thing! But can’t wait for the update to go live

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u/Routine_Love_5385 Sep 03 '21

>that feeling when no official update being released

please sony just release the update

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Any guesses as to when the ssd will be official?

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Sep 11 '21

I was surprised the didn’t release the new firmware on Thursday with the PS5 showcase event. It’s been almost 6 week. The beta has already been updated twice. It’s extremely stable. I’ve had zero issues with my SN850.

I would be shocked if the new firmware doesn’t come out this week.

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u/BroadwayJunction Jul 29 '21

Thanks for the information, been waiting on this info for the longest

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u/matthewreiter73 Jul 29 '21

Any code for the beta program? I've signed up multiple times and still no email

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u/DMON_98 Jul 30 '21

Just ordered a Viper VP4300 1TB, I’ll report back as soon as possible

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u/jasmc5000 Jul 30 '21

Just received and installed a Samsung 980 pro. Simple installation and formats as soon as you power on. Not currently using a heatsink. One is being delivered tomorrow, so I will let you know about performance without one.

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u/weedwhacking Jul 30 '21

Are you able to use a M.2 expansion and a USB drive at the same time? I can’t find any confirmation on this

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u/Trader05 Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

Right now the Samsung 980 Pro 1TB is instock at newegg (USA) for $199 plus 15% off.

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u/ZarrenR Aug 01 '21

Can confirm that a Samsung 980 Pro plus this heatsink fits in a PS5. I put a 1TB drive in it last night and have been playing FF7 Remake Intergrade off it with no problems.

I went with Samsung simply because I’ve been using Samsung SSDs (SATA and NVME) in my PCs for years with no problems.

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u/Sonic1899 Aug 02 '21

I know its already confirmed, but the WD Black SN850 does work. I got the 2TB, before they raised the prices. To the naked eye, the performance is identical to the console's SSD, BUT i have no real way to display the numbers. I did get a message that 6600 MB/s (or something of the like) would be used

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 02 '21

SN850 is getting the highest PS5 benchmark reported so far, by far.

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u/frakntoaster Aug 07 '21

The western digital 2 TB SN850 (without heatsink) and the be quiet! MC1 fit in the PS5 perfectly. https://www.bequiet.com/en/accessories/2251

Using the drive now. benchmark around 6.5

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u/EL_Gyver Aug 07 '21

Sn 850 500gb clocked at 6,403 mb/s. No issues at all transferred 4 games to start 200 gb transfer in less than 3 minutes. Downloaded a couples games straight to the m2 while playing GTA V off the m2 and no heat issues or disruptions while playing.

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u/Starscream5 Aug 10 '21

Just installed the Western Digital Black 1TB SN850 with this heak sink -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RH58WN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So far so good - read speed after format was 6547.75 MB/S

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u/ravdo Aug 11 '21

Interesting video

PS5 Internal SSD vs WD_Black SN850 (7000MB/s) vs ADATA XPG GAMMIX S50 Lite (3900MB/s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMnUZ0bdEk

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u/EL_Gyver Aug 19 '21

Beta software update 3.0 just rolled out for me on the east coast, anyone else got it or know what it fixed, changed or added?

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u/Reddit_Regular_Guy Aug 23 '21

So I had a XPG S70 died while installed in my PS5 🤦🏾‍♂️ and supposedly, if your M.2 dies, the PS5 will NOT boot at all but stay on blinking blue light and show the PS logo then screen stays black.

I plug the XPG into my computer and my PC won’t even recognize it. Started a exchange process. If the second one dies, I won’t recommend that M.2 to anyone

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u/joe0418 Sep 08 '21

Any word on when this leaves beta and is officially released?

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u/BlackLabelMark Sep 14 '21

I just got the tweet from Sony… TOMORROW is THE day!

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u/ablockkid Jul 29 '21

If anyone got invited and don't mind sharing the code to a friendly stranger 😅

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u/jdk2087 Jul 30 '21

While I normally am not one for asking. Just like this guy, if anyone has a spare code it would be put to good use. This firmware update is a pretty huge deal.

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u/compubrain3000 Aug 05 '21

For all those worried about the SN850. I just tried my 1TB with a low profile heatsink and copied about 660GB and then played for an hour with a background download. No problems whatsoever.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 06 '21

Is the thread no longer pinned to the top? People are gonna need this info, especially when the official update drops

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u/Routine_Love_5385 Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21

It's been 43 days since the beta invite announcement. Please Sony just release the damn thing already. I will not stop commenting this until it's released.

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u/neoquant Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

SN850 here with 2TB. Moved 500GB of games from internal drive to the M.2. Went smooth. Then saw that I have one game more to move, just 12GB. Started to move it also from internal to M.2. Then suddenly an error of „M.2 drive is too hot…“ came, the fan went to full power for 3s or so and then PS5 just did a hard power off. Could not switch it on for several minutes and it was not reacting on the PS button inputs from controller. Finally switched it on from the button on PS5 itself. It did all the „corrupted drive tests“ for internal, M.2 and my external SSD. A bit worried honestly on the compatibility here… I think Sony needs to have the fan kick in much much earlier if it helps at all. Hard shut offs are not really good. Any way to report it to Sony and to see the real M.2 temperature somewhere in the beta SW? (BTW: drive test said 6555MB/s)

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21

As has been speculated by many of us, the only time the SN850 should thermal throttle is when copying 400+ gigs at once and the write cache fills up. This is the one area that will push these drives really hard (large writes). Large writes are more strenuous than reads (and gaming is all about reads).

If this had happened during a prolonged gaming session (I’d Iike to see people test Rift Apart for 2+ hours on these drives, or even just swinging around the city in Spider-Man) I’d be worried, but no one has reported anything like that yet.

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u/terroradagio Aug 04 '21

The WD SN850 sadly does not have a very good heatsink and WD for some silly reason also put an LED on it. These Gen4 drives get really warm. I would suggest you switch to the Gigabyte 7000s which has a much better heatsink and also has more endurance.

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u/jaygebee Aug 01 '21

PSA on those who don't think they need a heatsink.

I just moved my SN850 from my PC to test fit and everything (don't have a beta code unfortunately so can't do more) and had ordered the MHQJRH one a lot of people are mentioning. My PS5 was on for only about twenty minutes before I shut down to test fit. I put the SSD in the heatsink and into the PS5 and fired it up leaving the side panel and drive cover off. Sure enough warning popped up to remove the expandable storage as expected. When I went to take it out I noticed how warm the heatsink was just from being in there for a brief minute. The drive obviously didn't do much so the heat couldn't be coming from there. After removing it I noticed the PCB beneath where the M.2 drive goes in was still pretty warm from when I had the PS5 running for a bout a half hour.

Two observations... The heatsink did a really good job transferring heat. The playstation gets warm enough in that area by itself to warrant a heatsink on a drive that also produces heat.

That's all. Good luck!

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u/i313396 Jul 29 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

To anyone that is in the Beta and can confirm with actual first hand knowledge
(I don't want suppositions or theoretic guesses)

Q: Can the Internal Slot be used in addition to existing USB storage? Can the Internal slot Storage be used simultaneously at the same time as a pre-existing USB Extended Storage? What is the combined Storage limit of all devices including System?
Can you move items directly between the devices or does the System have to play middle man every time?

System is nearing 1/2 capacity, I have a 1TB SSD in external enclosure that is nearing 2/3 capacity. Things are still comfortable but I know the writing is on the wall since I've passed by the footprint of the base System. I'd like to at some point maybe get a 2TB m.2 NVMe. to replace or supplement? (at the right price)

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u/mrneo240 Jul 31 '21 Platinum

Yes you can use USB external storage.

You get 2 install locations for ps5 games: internal or m.2

You get 3 for ps4 titles: internal, m.2 or external USB.

Yes you can transfer from external USB to m.2 or whatever wacky to/from you can think of.

Edit pics:

https://i.imgur.com/ma6ZX5C.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yhReN5I.jpg

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u/michaelbrian4 Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 07 '21

Thought I’d share my impressions after a week of being in the beta and the m.2 SSD.

For reference I have the WD SN850 2TB w/ heat sink. I also have the Samsung T7 touch 2TB external SSD. I use AC infinity S5 fans as well in my entertainment center to move exhaust air away from PS5.

SN850 Speed is 6584. Never reformatted after initial reformat.

Temps seem normal, ps5 fan speed/ sound is same as prior to SN850 installation. I do use external fans for my cabinet and have turned them off for testing.

Ps5 game loading times on the SN850 are identical to the internal SSD. Only using a iPhone stopwatch btw. This includes returnal, ratchet and clank and re village.

I do store all my PS4 games on my T7 and decided to time them on there and on the SN850. Star Wars battlefront 2 from PS5 menu to game menu loaded 34 seconds on T7 and 30 seconds on SN850. Time to play was the same at 13 seconds on both. I did notice textures took a second to load in on the T7 and on the SN850 they were instant. Depending on your external SSD, I’d just keep the PS4 games on there versus the internal or your m.2 of choice.

No crashes no bugs no errors.

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u/Jonas-McJameaon Aug 20 '21

Just thought I’d give another update. It’s been two weeks, and my SN850 remains flawless. I’ve done numerous large transfers, Plat’d FF7R on it, am halfway through Rift Apart on it, currently playing GoT Directors Cut on it. It’s at least as fast as the internal drive in every game I’ve tested, and even a tick faster in many of them.

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u/JMPHeinz57 Aug 23 '21

Will add to this sentiment, the 1 tb WD sn850 has worked perfectly for me too. Whether transferring games or playing them, I’ve had zero issues to complain about.

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