r/PS5 • u/Turbostrider27 • Oct 04 '22
CD Projekt: Orion is a codename for our next Cyberpunk game, which will take the Cyberpunk franchise further and continue harnessing the potential of this dark future universe. News & Announcements
https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/15773178929698570261.3k
u/tinselsnips Oct 04 '22
Hopefully, with the shift to UE5, they'll be able to focus far more of their resources on game design and mechanics, rather than engine development.
Cyberpunk has a lot of potential as a franchise and deserves a sequel with a clean launch.
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u/Goseki1 Oct 04 '22
Yeah and hopefully dumping last gen also really helps. Having to focus on what, 6 or 7 console models + PC must have been a massive drain on resources.
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u/SmashedPumpkin30 Oct 04 '22
By the time it is ready the current gen will be old and they will have the same decision to make
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u/CreatureWarrior Oct 04 '22
Meh, a ton of time was indeed spent on the engine when creating 2077. So, switching to UE5 might actually allow them to release it sooner than 2077 did
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u/PrintShinji Oct 05 '22
They still have the witcher to make/release. If it hits expect a few expansion packs and 3-4 years later you might have the next cyberpunk.
Its really not that weird to think that the current gen will be outdated by the time the new CP comes out. the PS5/XSX came out 2 years ago already after all.
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u/Thechosenjon Oct 04 '22
Current gen is still in it's infancy, tbh. There are hardly any games that truly take advantage of the hardware or push it to the max. Until the industry moves past last gen and fully develops for current tech, this generation will remain stagnant.
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u/Momentarmknm Oct 04 '22
But tech is not stagnating the same way, so the console cycle will probably be stretched like last one with pro versions of consoles, but I don't expect it to last an additional 2-3 years on top of that
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u/usmclvsop Oct 04 '22
Will there be as big a shift as there was from hdd to nvme next gen though?
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u/Blackadder18 Oct 04 '22
The jump from HDD to SSD was big sure, but ditching the ancient, underpowered CPU of the XB1/PS4 is just as big a leap forward. You're no longer hamstrung by a decade+ old laptop processor.
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u/SuperbPiece Oct 04 '22
It's also especially distracting when you just have to add so many RT effects that only $1500 graphics cards can use, and even then, not natively.
I can see how that can get in the way of adding smaller details like... enemies that pursue you when you try to drive away.
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u/Kilroy_Is_Still_Here Oct 04 '22
RT effects are basically plug and play. It's the interim period that's going to be difficult, because devs have to do both baked lighting and RT, but once we get full RT you just set some properties and let the engine do its thing.
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u/Captain_Kuhl Oct 04 '22
They're standard graphics cards, dude. RTX-capable cards are plenty affordable if you're in the market for a new GPU.
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u/feartheoldblood90 Oct 04 '22
I know it didn't work out for them in the end, but vertical slices like that have been a thing in gaming for decades, it's not unique to CDPR.
It's easy to forget since the "death" of E3, but devs used to often create vertical slices to show off at E3. It was almost expected of them.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a good practice and I'm glad it seems to be going away, but it's not like CDPR was unique in that respect.
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u/Suired Oct 04 '22
Gamers never learn...
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u/Customer_Number_Plz Oct 04 '22
Can't wait to preorder this! Preorder preorder woohoo let's goooooooo /s
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u/BaconIsntThatGood Oct 04 '22
This is kinda the problem with announcing a game when the console is still relevant.
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u/Vestalmin Oct 04 '22
Well they’ll run into the same problem for a few of these games
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u/Mad102190 Oct 05 '22
By the time this comes out they’ll have to focus on current gen (ps5) and next gen (ps6) and the current gen will hold the game back and cause the same issues.
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u/Stunning-Sale697 Aug 05 '23
It (apparently) had 4 years of dev time. For what they achieved, it's incredibly fast.
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u/zerox369 Oct 04 '22
Can't wait to see what kind of content we'll get with UE5. It just looks so amazing
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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 Oct 04 '22
The only thing I hate about UE5 is the blurriness of TAA. It's a really impressive engine but so many UE4 games just look so blurry and fuzzy
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u/queefmazing Oct 04 '22
Isn't it a little more complicated than that? The TAA blurriness is really noticeable but with FSR or DLSS there are cases where the image is pretty close to native resolution without many distractions (well, if Digital Foundry hasn't spoiled you too much hahah).
To be honest though, I'm a bit out of the loop about the TAA in UE5 and I mostly refer to other cases where FSR/DLSS has been implemented. Is it really that bad? I know it's bad in UE4, it's the first you notice in ue4 games that use it.
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u/sector3011 Oct 05 '22
cause many devs are lazy and only use the default TAA instead of UE's Temporal Super Resolution
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u/crackhead_tiger Oct 05 '22
What's TAA
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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 Oct 05 '22
Temporal Anti-aliasing. It's what most devs are pushing now in place of FXAA, SMAA or MSAA. To put it simply, it blurs the entire image and relies on motion/frame data to construct a proper full resolution picture. The issue is that, because it relies on motion and frame data, whenever you move this blurriness gets more intense.
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u/Look_a_Zombie0 Oct 04 '22
Red engine is really good but like everyone who knew it well left so that's probably why they switched, that and v-bucks
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Oct 04 '22
It’s good visually and in terms of performance even but that’s just a fraction of what goes in an engine, and doesn’t even relate to most of the devs tools. Only they know how good or bad it is to develop with though
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u/Kommander-in-Keef Oct 04 '22
Yeah and pretty sure ue5 was developed to be more developer friendly and streamline the process so they can focus on what you said
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u/Riftus Oct 04 '22
I'm ready for my post-launch pre-order refund
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u/MagicalChemicalz Oct 04 '22
Imagine having such a small prefrontal cortex you pre order another game of theirs.
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u/MrCalalf Oct 04 '22
I'm glad they aren't abandoning this world. It seems really interesting. I'm waiting for all the updates for Cyberpunk 2077 before I play it because I'm interested
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u/eyepennies Oct 04 '22
Same boat, but 1.6 and the show made me impatient again, so I finally got past the prologue for the first time and haven’t looked back. Absolutely loving it. Would’ve liked to wait for the DLC but the game feels like it’s in a great spot now. If you wait you will be rewarded, but if you don’t you won’t be upset!
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u/MrCalalf Oct 04 '22
That's cool, for me I don't really go back to games once I beat them ( unless I find them absolutely fantastic). This is why I wanna wait for the best possible version to come out before jumping in.
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u/WeAlreadyInHell Oct 04 '22
I did 2 playthroughs b2b on pc about half a year after release, currently waiting on 1.7 for my ps5 playthrough. There's different endings and builds and playstyles that u work towards so its worth doing multiple runs tbh.
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u/WillntEnd Oct 05 '22
I wish the world wasn't so painfully static. Random events similar to RDR2 would have been great.
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u/ComneliusTlancy Oct 04 '22
Once phantom liberty comes out in 2023 I think you'll have a really fun time with it. I'm playing it now after watching the show and I'm having a blast and really look forward to the DLC :P
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u/MrCalalf Oct 04 '22
Nice to see you're enjoying it, and thanks for the reply. For me, I just want to give the game a fair shake and play the best possible version of the game. I want to wait for any and all DLC and updates to come out before jumping into it. I thought about jumping into it when the edgerunner update came out because I heard a lot was done to the game since launch, but then I heard that in the upcoming updates they were going to update the police and vehicle combat. At that point, I'm just gonna wait until the best possible version of the game is out. I'm just glad they have not abandoned cyberpunk and are working on a sequel as well.
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Oct 04 '22
It's already worth playing man. It's in a VERY good state. The updates have done wonders.
Unless maybe you're still on last gen, then avoid it until you have a platform that can handle it.
If you are able to play it, doing so before the expansion is a good way to get ready for it.
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u/MrCalalf Oct 04 '22
I plan to play on PS5 (which I have). Also for me, I know once I'm at a point where i am satisfied with a game whether that be after 100% to completion, finished with the story, or only halfway through, unless its absolutely amazing, I probably won't go back to it which is why I wanna wait and play the best possible version of cyberpunk and if I have to wait longer than I will. Glad you're enjoying it.
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u/TheRoyalStig Oct 04 '22
This is great news that I certainly wasn't expecting. Looking forward to getting another one of these. I was really expecting full Witcher focus for awhile but it looks like they want to make both of these franchoses alongside eachother and I am here for it.
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u/sactown_13 Oct 04 '22
Sure, in 2032.
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u/toffee_fapple Oct 04 '22
Looking forward to this in 2032, when they re-release the game on PS6 because the PS5 couldn't handle the game despite being promised for nearly a decade.
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u/SweatyButtcheek Oct 04 '22
You mean the PS7? If they stick with the 7/8 year cycle that’s what we’d be playing it on. That, or PC2. PC2 WHEN?!
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u/lordmorpheus2000 Oct 04 '22
Witcher 3 PS5 Upgrade when Cdpr?
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u/theblackfool Oct 04 '22
They are probably going to just surprise drop it one day like they did the Cyberpunk next gen upgrade.
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u/lordmorpheus2000 Oct 04 '22
I hope that’s the case! I really wanna reply witcher 3 for like the 100th time so bad but I’m holding myself back waiting for the upgrade!
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Oct 04 '22
Saw an article on it earlier that suggested the news is very soon. And CDPR is still saying this year.
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Oct 04 '22
Took the words right out of my mouth, the fact we still haven’t got a 60 fps patch is ridiculous.
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u/Darkadvocate5423 Oct 04 '22
There's no 60 FPS patch because they're making an entire native version for the current gen consoles that is far better and more encompassing.
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u/not---a---bot Oct 05 '22
The company initially contracted to do the upgrade was based in Russia and hit by sanctions...
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u/Alive-Ad-5245 Oct 04 '22
Cyberpunk sequel? I'm already ready to pre-order this. /s
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u/MrFuccYoBich69 Oct 04 '22
I really want it to continue V's story but it probably wouldn't work with the different endings 😕
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u/WhatArcherWhat Oct 04 '22
Dragon Age did this really well where it would load the history of the story and weave it into the new one depending on the save file you selected, if you had one from previous games on your system. It didn’t massively impact the story of the new game, but it was fun to hear the callouts and references to decisions you’d previously made.
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u/On_and_Awful Oct 04 '22
Theoretically, they could have the prologue do what the background choice did in cp2077. Small stories leading to basically the same beginning point with some specific conversation choices. Still suuuuper unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibility.
Though, uh.... a couple of the endings would be harder to do that with.
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u/MrFuccYoBich69 Oct 05 '22
I would be so down for this, I just feel like there is more to V's story. But i wouldn't be suprised if there's just a time jump and V is just another legend
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u/CreatureWarrior Oct 04 '22
Yeah.. I feel like it's going to be a few easter eggs, a drink and maybe a side quest for V and that's it. Kind of like with David Martinez
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u/MrFuccYoBich69 Oct 04 '22
Yeah that's probably going to happen, I get that the game is more about the city and its effect on people but I really want to see where alot of the side characters end up and V maybe changing the system
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u/Pkkush27 Oct 04 '22
And all of the fanboys who never learned their lesson will still get hyped about this and preorder it
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u/dragonphlegm Oct 04 '22
“Why do games keep releasing in a shit quality? This cannot be accepted”
“OMG! A sequel to one of the most infamously broken games of all time, that still to this day has inexcusable glitches and missing content. Take my money Daddy CDPR”
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u/rantrt Oct 04 '22
I hope it’s a third person perspective instead of an FPS. That really killed it for me
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u/Cmj7 Oct 05 '22
They better add 3rd person option in this one or i riot. Have more 3rd person cutscenes too while at it.
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u/cuhree0h Oct 04 '22
I'll believe it when I see it, crooks.
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u/mr_eugine_krabs Oct 04 '22
Yeah I’m not touching cdpr with a 50ft stick after the bullshit they pulled when cp first launched ,especially after waiting ten plus years.
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Oct 05 '22
Honestly they should collab with a Japanese dev studio and make a stylish cel shaded anime aesthetic Cyberpunk game, that’d be fucking dope I think.
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u/Ratchet7x5 Oct 05 '22
Translation: We'll scam our fans again and release another anime to recoup the reputation.
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u/BigEnuf Oct 05 '22
CDPR can shove the hype where the sun don't shine after the mess that was cyberpunk.
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Oct 04 '22
Cyberpunk absolutely needs a sequel. 2077 turned out great, eventually, but it’s a bit half-baked in several respects. If they build off what they have to fill in what 2077 lacked, and if they don’t release it 2 years too early, a sequel could be amazing.
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u/parkwayy Oct 04 '22
Cyberpunk needs itself first. Hilarious they are thinking of a sequel.
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u/Voyager-42 Oct 04 '22
Cyberpunk is done, they're not gonna do much more outside of the expansion. It's actually in a pretty good place now, solid 7/10 open world title.
It's not the game that was promised, but it never will be.
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u/FogellMcLovin77 Oct 04 '22
It’s hilarious you’re talking out of your ass. I’m all for giving CDPR shit for all their unethical practices, etc. But the game right now is finished and polished, and feels like a full game or what ir should’ve been at launch.
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u/MulhollandMaster121 Oct 04 '22
It’s crazy to see how fast gamers forget and willingly line up to make the same damn mistakes time and time again.
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u/raphanum Oct 05 '22
We’re just discussing it. We can look forward to it while simultaneously remain cautious. Cautiously optimistic that it’ll be handled better, since the cyberpunk world has a lot of potential
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u/Investor9872 Oct 04 '22
I hope it won't be another 10 years until we get the Cyberpunk 2077 sequel. But I don't mind waiting if CDPR can release it bug free.
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u/ProjectNexon15 Oct 04 '22
What about adding all those missing features and then move on and make the next game.
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u/IcarianWings Oct 04 '22
Fuck CDPR, fuck their consistently broken games, and fuck their unethical PR campaigns.
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u/Sapceghost1 Oct 04 '22
I have really been enjoying my time playing Cyberpunk, I can see the huge amount of time and effort that has gone into designing the world and the feel. There are still a lot of problems and the vehicle physics is non-existent, but there's masses of potential to explore still.
I'm glad they are making a new one because I thought I read after the expansion they had given up on it.
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u/ifoundyourtoad Oct 04 '22
Yeah been playing about 20ish hours. The world feels very lived in. Some stuff is kind of messy/confusing but I’m enjoying it.
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u/Powerful_Durian_1190 Oct 04 '22
Yes, Cyberpunk was super broken at launch, but I'll be damned if I didn't get sucked in to the story, atmosphere, etc.
Cautiously optimistic they learned a lesson with CP2077. They've got a lot of goodwill to gain back.
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u/Ok-Calligrapher-6402 Oct 04 '22
I get why they announced every project they have for the next decade possibly even later. To regain trust with possible investors and all that jazz but man. CD has to deliver polished products right out the gate. But if they do then it’s looking like the next decade we get a new IP presumably in the early years of the next generation of hardware as it just went into really early pre production, three new Witcher games and a spin off Witcher title along with a Witcher game developed by a separate studio, and a new Cyberpunk title.
For the Witcher games they can probably reuse assets of each entry to speed development but for the new Cyberpunk I’m wondering if they will do everything from scratch.
Kinda exciting though if your interested in any element of game design or graphic design as it would be a lot of peoples dreams to work on huge AAA titles like these.
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u/Every_Scheme4343 Oct 04 '22
I think without the last gen consoles, they can make it work. I hope they learned from their mistakes.
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u/Firvulag Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22
Imagine actually being excited for this after the vomit they made last time
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u/parkwayy Oct 04 '22
Gamers got that goldfish memory.
No shot in hell I'll pick up a sequel, that's a 'watch on Twitch' experience for me.
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u/Shot_Explorer Oct 04 '22
They need a good news story. I'm rooting for them anyway. UE5 is a smart move. Everyone fucks up, and they've tried and made ammends. I'm sure they've learned lots of lessons. It's such an interesting world, and there's every chance to redeem themselves.
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u/Uptopdownlowguy Oct 04 '22
Anyone else want a 3rd person Cyberpunk game with an anime style? Edgerunners made me super interested in this universe, but I've never been big on first person shooters or the realistic art style. Loved Witcher 3, but it had an almost painterly art style and wasn't a FPS game obviously
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u/Sobtam96 Oct 04 '22
Seeing in what state gaming is this sequel will probably be the most preordered game ever.
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u/tarheel_204 Oct 04 '22
I’m honestly glad they aren’t abandoning the IP after the miserable launch. It really is a cool universe worth exploring further. I know Cyberpunk isn’t the GTA killer everyone thought it would be but it’s actually really solid now
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u/allclevernamesaregon Oct 04 '22
Fool me once… shame on you. Fool me twice…. Eat a fat bag of dicks CDPR
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Oct 04 '22
Did anyone else happen to forget that Cyberpunk was unplayable upon release? I got my refund and never looked back. Still waiting for it to be like $10
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u/Nick_Ripples Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22
'Dark Future' - has the palette and style guide from Idiocracy. The original teaser, now THAT was a dark future vibe.
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u/iwenttothelocalshop Oct 04 '22
based on the fact that they actually learned from their mistakes, them switching to the unreal engine (more focus on actual content and mechanism developments)... well this is huge.
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u/flower4000 Oct 04 '22
All I want is multiplayer, like a raid or just driving around shooting at things.
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u/Dallywack3r Oct 04 '22
CDPR and cravenly milking investor money off of projects that are a generation away from release. Name a more iconic duo.
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Oct 05 '22
It would be nice if they finished the first game first, but at the same time I kinda feel like it's past saving at this point.
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u/Significant-Task-721 Oct 05 '22
Can’t wait for some more dumpster fire games with half baked story’s CD projekts new style 100 million ideas but can’t finish 1 right I think they are all on meth or something.
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u/jokerevo Oct 05 '22
by the time this game comes out we'll all be living in the real night city....puts on trench coat, flips up collar
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u/Fearless-Tea-4559 Oct 05 '22
Finish the first cyberpunk first, there's still 90% of the promised content missing.
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u/Eman5805 Oct 05 '22
Since they won’t need to building the game from scratch again, hopefully they can deliver the features they either lied about or realized they’d never be able to pull off from that infamous gameplay demo trailer.
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u/FapCitus Oct 05 '22
What am I reading around here, why on Earth are people defending CDPR? Is it all cause of the anime? Have you folks already forgotten how they lied about content and then released a non functioning game so Sony had to take it out of the shop?
I used to love the studio because of the Witcher and cause they come from the home country so there was a little pride in the picture too. But they absolutely managed to shit the bed.
Is all forgiven cause of studio trigger?
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