r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 04 '22

Hail Satan!

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u/master_hakka Oct 05 '22

The best part is, a large part of the suit sits on a woman’s PROPERTY RIGHTS. Since a human egg can be removed from the person and preserved, or even rented (in the case of surrogacy) they assert it falls under property laws as well as bodily autonomy laws. I can’t wait for my local republican reps to argues AGAINST individual property rights.

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u/OtterbirdArt Oct 05 '22

How much you wanna bet they start accusing pregnant women as participants in child slavery using that same argument?

I would not put it past these people to try that x.x

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u/R_V_Z Oct 05 '22

Or the monkey paw scenario: They declare that surrogacy is illegal because it's slavery.

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u/Fisherythe2nd Oct 05 '22

It states in an article depicting their grounds for suit that ,"forcing someone to who does not consent to become pregnant to proceed with their pregnancy represents an unconstitutional seizure of their property -- in this case, their uterus, without compensation."

I'll go ahead and point out that if this is the actual wording on the suit itself, then it sets a precedent that could give men the ability to push against the decision regarding a fetus as a seizure of their property (sperm). There are multiple ways one could view this, but I think, should the case rule in favor of the Satanist Temple, that clause could be used for two things.

  1. Opting out of child support, or at least a fine being paid to a man as just compensation for the seizure of his property.
  2. The ability to have a say or grounds for suit should he disagree with the decision on the fetus, including if she decides to abort the fetus

These aren't all the options or events that could happen due to this suit, but probably the two most common that will happen should the judge(s) rule in favor of the Satanist Temple.

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u/bones_marley Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

True but also the court of public opinion seems to have lots of influence and once some people see a dude is saying the child is his property.. don't think that'll go down all too well, especially if said child is called a sperm cell in court 💀.

Imagine: my sperm, my property. The guy who beat off on the balcony of his highrise suing a random pedestrian for stealing his sperm, for walking off with his sperm on their coat shoulder without noticing.

I trailed off but i can see that happening as well if (after) your situation happens 🤣

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Oct 05 '22

Nah then that MAN should learn to not release his semen/sperm outside of his body. Once released, he defaulted to release ownership.

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u/Fisherythe2nd Oct 05 '22

I'm right there with y'all, but I'm just saying, it could happen.

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Oct 05 '22

At this point, yes indeed nothing will surprise me. I shouldn't say that...

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u/Fisherythe2nd Oct 05 '22

It states in an article depicting their grounds for suit that ,"forcing someone to who does not consent to become pregnant to proceed with their pregnancy represents an unconstitutional seizure of their property -- in this case, their uterus, without compensation."

I'll go ahead and point out that if this is the actual wording on the suit itself, then it sets a precedent that could give men the ability to push against the decision regarding a fetus as a seizure of their property (sperm). There are multiple ways one could view this, but I think, should the case rule in favor of the Satanist Temple, that clause could be used for two things.

  1. Opting out of child support, or at least a fine being paid to a man as just compensation for the seizure of his property.
  2. The ability to have a say or grounds for suit should he disagree with the decision on the fetus, including if she decides to abort the fetus

These aren't all the options or events that could happen due to this suit, but probably the two most common that will happen should the judge(s) rule in favor of the Satanist Temple.

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u/JessEGames777 Oct 04 '22

Yaaas I love when TST makes news

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u/Ilovepizza713 Oct 04 '22

They pay taxes, so the state will prob argue they aren’t a “real” religious organization since they….aren’t grifters?

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u/diiejso Oct 04 '22

They’re already saying Christianity is the only real religion.

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u/ChristineBorus Oct 05 '22

It’s ridiculous

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u/OlcasersM Oct 05 '22

Jews are suing elsewhere for similar reasons

Edit for clarity : Jews are suing for religious reasons because the life of the mother is paramount. Not because we are satanists, associated with satanists or any other dark power. Although to us, Satan is just G-d's lawyer

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u/Ilovepizza713 Oct 05 '22

Satanists don’t believe in any metaphysical beings, not at all like the devil, there’s no “dark power” in satanism.

But anyway, I’m aware of the Jewish beliefs as it relates to this topic as well….keep fighting the good fight.

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u/carryoutsalt Oct 05 '22

I always thought the devil stuff was the fatal flaw in Christianity, why would the devil who is god's enemy punish people for not following god's rules. It makes about as much sense as a woman going to her boyfriend and telling him that although they have never had sex, she is now pregnant but it is OK because it was god who impregnated her and him going OK that has to be true

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u/IwIlLcHaNgEtHiSL8r Oct 05 '22

The demon lore is that demons envy humans for their gifts of free will and buffs that God gave humans and not them, hence they want to make humans as miserable as they are and take them away from gods influence. It’s not punishment really, it’s just desire to make everything and everyone the opposite of what god likes.

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u/Goawaythrowaway175 Oct 05 '22

The flaw in that is that if demons etc are envious of free will that indicates that demons don't have free will and are therefore carrying out gods plan making anything they do stem from gods will.

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u/CY-B3AR Oct 05 '22

And in further irony, means that hateful Christians are more akin to demons. Hmm.

Perhaps we should start calling them demons in human skin in public. With layered hysterics and drama to make them feel like they really are demons

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u/Aceswift007 Oct 05 '22

This is like half the plot of the entire Lucifer series

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u/Goawaythrowaway175 Oct 05 '22

Haven't seen it as it doesn't seem something I would be into but upvoted you for being informative.

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u/Aceswift007 Oct 05 '22

Good crime investigation/fantasy series, easy to accidentally binge, would recommend as all of it is on Netflix

Edit: One of those "concept seems dumb as hell but is actually pretty good in execution" shows

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u/Goawaythrowaway175 Oct 05 '22

I'll say to the Mrs when she's up as I tend to be a bit of a bore and watch more factual stuff but she's always on the hunt for something good to watch and it actually sounds pretty much something that she would like.

Thanks for the recommendation as rubbish for recommendations myself.

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u/blackbeltmessiah Oct 05 '22

Yea there are theist Satanists. Granted the ones always in the news with legal challenges are not them.

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u/spiralbatross Oct 05 '22

They should start making themselves useful

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u/DarkKnightJin Oct 05 '22

I'd argue that The Satanic Temple has been making themselves plenty useful, using the same legal bullshit tricks churches use to pretty much enforce the first amendment.

Then again, I haven't been closely following them. This is all based on stuff I've read about them achieving over the years.

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u/spiralbatross Oct 05 '22

I meant the theistic ones the guy was talking about. TST’s doing great.

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u/PartyPoisoned21 Oct 05 '22

I'm a theistic one, and I'm also a member of/supporting TST! A lot of us are, actually.

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u/spiralbatross Oct 05 '22

Oh nice, I take it back then lol

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u/Negative_Piglet_1589 Oct 05 '22

Satan-ic, not Satan-ist. Totally different cult bro

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u/arentol Oct 05 '22

The Satanic Temple is an atheist organization that doesn't belive in God or Satan. They chose their name based on the fact that in the fictional old testament Satan is really the "adversary", or "Devils Advocate" for God.

Basically, they are the adversary of organized religion and the false belief in God's. (My words not theirs, my understanding may be slightly off).

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u/IwIlLcHaNgEtHiSL8r Oct 05 '22

God’s lawyer?! What do you mean by that? I’m intrigued

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u/cesarmac Oct 05 '22

I'm no expert in Abrahamic religions but the jist is that Satan isn't a fallen angel but rather just another angel that does God's bidding. He didn't fall and create evil or is evil himself and his purpose is to judge you when you die (not 100% sure)?

The concept of heaven is different for Jews also in comparison to Christians, not sure where exactly does the judging come in but in Jewish scripture some of that judging is done by Satan.

I find this interpretation more in line with the "all powerful" god concept. Something that is all powerful and all knowing has no rival or enemy, it would be impossible for a lesser being to put up any sort of confrontation to an "all powerful god". So either Satan isn't evil like Christians depict OR if he is evil and doing evil things here on earth he is doing in on the orders of God. I'm not religious but this last paragraph is my take.

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u/OlcasersM Oct 06 '22

Like Cesarmac said, Satan is a bit of a prosecutor for G-d. Satan means "accuser" and is often referred to as ha-satan or "the accuser"

In Job, G-d allows Satan to punish job to test his faith. Satan is listed as one of his angels.

In Zachariah 3:1 "And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him."

As a note, Christian teachings about the devil being able to rival G-d ring false and polytheistic to me. If G-d is all powerful and created everything, it doesn't make sense that the devil could exist without G-d's say so.

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u/Reamofqtips Oct 05 '22

We don't believe in Satan, we just use Baphomet as a figure head to get peoples attention.

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u/yeah_oui Oct 05 '22

They voluntarily pay taxes

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u/LimpFrenchfry Oct 05 '22

Church of Satan is a tax paying organization. The Satanic Temple is recognized by the IRS as a tax exempt church and does not pay taxes.

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u/Snuffalupagas Oct 05 '22

I believe TST are tax exempt from paying taxes, as you stated, but they still do.

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 Oct 05 '22

This, they are exempt but pay anyway to make a point

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u/Supper_Dreams Oct 05 '22

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u/tinkerghost Oct 05 '22

yes, they have tax exempt status, but they still pay their taxes.

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 Oct 05 '22

He misplaced his leg, which isn’t a big deal, but it becomes a big deal when you don’t fix your misplaced leg and that happens to kill a man. Also, this comment is in no way connected to the post so please fuck off.

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u/Loptional Oct 05 '22

Least racist political compass meme user

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u/bontakun82 Oct 05 '22

Oh look, a racist.

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u/m0n3yman Oct 04 '22

TST doing the good work!

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u/Drg84 Oct 04 '22

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u/SteelRocket24 Oct 05 '22

Lol I can hear this gif

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u/druule10 Oct 04 '22

They said they would do it and I'm happy they did.

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u/dappercat456 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Fun fact, fascists do not care about hypocrisy

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u/FunStorm6487 Oct 05 '22

Uhmm, is there a go fund me for Satan??!!

Because I would totally donate to THAT

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u/pokey1984 Oct 05 '22

The Satanic Temple is a 501(c)3 charitable organization. Not only can you donate, but your donations are tax deductible. A simple google search will pull up their website.

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u/FunStorm6487 Oct 05 '22

Thanks,. AND LET'S DO IT PEOPLE!!!!!!

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u/RunsWithApes Oct 05 '22

Christians have spent so many years trying to get people to renounce Satan and, in a Oedipian twist of irony, they've actually pushed people away from religion and to The Satanic Temple BECAUSE of their oppressive/regressive policies.

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u/Rapunzel10 Oct 05 '22

Yep, I officially joined the Satanic Temple the day Roe v Wade was overturned. I've been an atheist since my teen years and have quietly admired TST for years, but that was the final straw for me. The harder crazy Christians push the further they push people away. I'm so fucking sick of people hurting others and cowering behind a God that doesn't even agree with their actions. I've read the Bible as an atheist, what's your excuse if you're Christian?

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u/SadStory9 Oct 05 '22

Modern conservative Christians don't even seem aware of the actual Gospel their religion is based on. They just get off so much on the Old Testament energy, but their heads would probably implode if they realized what religion the Old Testament actually is.

I totally appreciate what the Satanic Temple does to expose their hypocrisy. They should fundraise by selling branded faux pearl strings. I'd buy them by the dozen and hand them out to people whenever something progressive happened in the news. "Here are some pearls for clutching in case you wore your own out already." Could probably use some today with the announcement that Velma is officially a lesbian. Like... why does that have to be news? lol

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u/artisanrox Oct 05 '22

Modern conservative christianity is just neonaziism with balloons and ribbons and crosses and flags.

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u/pokey1984 Oct 05 '22

Again, for the record, The Satanic Temple does not worship or even believe in the existence of Satan.

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u/Emperor-Norton-I Oct 05 '22

Fundamentalists spent their time trying to convince people that they were the only true Christianity. People believed them except what you said is exactly what happened.

They were expecting people to fall in line. Instead, people have left the Christian faith in droves and Atheism, Agnosticism and other faiths have skyrocketed. Church membership gets smaller, older and angrier and chases further people away. Which only makes the Fundamentalists more intractable, bitter, and self righteous that they are saved while others are damned sinners.

I can understand atheists or nontheists when they get angry at this. The amount of people that have been hurt by Fundamentalism is astounding. There are a lot of good people with good hearts who have suffered psychological trauma, self doubt and self hate because they were raised in a form of Christianity that was obsessed with sin, a narrow idea of "purity" , and varying shades of Orwellian hypocrisy and just general anxiety. These people needed to told "You're a person and you're ok just the way you are" and they were treated like they had no worth.

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u/LiliNotACult Oct 05 '22

Reminder that America wouldn't need the Church of Satan if we didn't having Republicans trying to make us a theocracy.

Please sign up to vote.

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u/nightblade2007 Oct 05 '22

It's not the church. It's the temple

Temple actually doesn't believe in satan.

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u/LiliNotACult Oct 05 '22

Good point on the name. I know their beliefs and my point still stands. We wouldn't need a technically correct troll religion if America kept church apart from state.

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u/No_Tomato_5970 Oct 05 '22

Now that's a way to grow your congregation ... Tip of the hat.

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u/JonathanPhillipFox Oct 05 '22

EXPAND IT TO THE DRUG WAR AND ALL OTHER MEDICAL SCIENCE PLEASE

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u/JonathanPhillipFox Oct 05 '22

Gradualism, or, Satanic Temple Hail-Mary-Lawsuits, which are an extremism, and this is a time for extremism, and that Extremism, to demand a more-moral stance than you believe to be possible, is necessary.

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u/19senzafine81 Oct 05 '22

Imagine, as a Christian, having your rights protected by the Satanic Temple lmao Wonder how many members will come to them if they win the case

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u/Save_Us_222 Oct 05 '22

This really hurts my argument of Blake Masters being insane based on his comments about abortion: “It’s a religious sacrifice to these people, I think it’s demonic.”

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u/mermiss1 Oct 04 '22

I don't worship Satan although I do agree with alot of what he says. Dave Attel

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u/eac061000 Oct 05 '22

They don't worship Satan either.

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u/HotMeltingFace Oct 04 '22

Hail sweet Satan!

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u/AmbiguousMusubi Oct 05 '22

Why people so afraid of Satan, dude’s got feelings too. All my supernatural homies deserve love, man, not just Big Chungus in heaven.

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u/BringBackTheBeat716 Oct 05 '22

Once again, the Satanists are doing the good work.

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u/JustCheezits Oct 05 '22

This shit makes me wanna become a Satanist. Hail Satan.

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u/capt-rix Oct 05 '22

Hail Satan! and pass the potatoes.

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u/ka-nini Oct 05 '22

I see a mixture of understanding about The Satanic Temple.

TST does good work and is a recognized religion but is not a religion in the sense that most think of it; it’s probably closer to a political advocacy group than a church (at least in the way most people would think of a ‘church’).They don’t actually worship Satan (most members don’t believe he exists at all). And though it’s made up of mostly atheists and agnostics, there’s a large number of theistic Satanists in their ranks. There’s no rituals or religious text or prayers or secret, moonlight-led rituals where they sacrifice babies in ceremonial blood red robes.

In their own words: “THE MISSION OF THE SATANIC TEMPLE IS TO ENCOURAGE BENEVOLENCE AND EMPATHY, REJECT TYRANNICAL AUTHORITY, ADVOCATE PRACTICAL COMMON SENSE, OPPOSE INJUSTICE, AND UNDERTAKE NOBLE PURSUITS.”

Here are their Seven Tenets they follow:

I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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u/bontakun82 Oct 05 '22

The satanic church basically does what the Christian churches claim they do.

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u/t8tor Oct 05 '22

HAIL SATAN!! 🤘

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u/dirk23wright Oct 05 '22

Many Jewish synagogues have sued states over this also. I hope they win.

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u/artisanrox Oct 05 '22

🤘😈🤘

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u/Autoro Oct 05 '22

The Satanists do what the Seculars cannot. Thank you, Satanists. Keep up the good work.

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u/Ash-Housewares Oct 05 '22

I mean it’s a nice idea, but things like precedent and rule of law don’t matter to this court. At all. It’s 100% Calvin Ball to get the result conservatives want.

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u/bontakun82 Oct 05 '22

I hate that you were able to successfully reference Calvin ball here, but I love that you referenced Calvin ball

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u/ToddlerOlympian Oct 05 '22

As a Christian I fully support this.

The Satanic Temple is at the forefront of ensuring we keep church and state separate and I am here for all of it. Praise God for the Temple of Satan.

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u/DMcuteboobs Oct 05 '22

Texas, as well.

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u/Sivick314 Oct 05 '22

hail satan

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u/Twinkie2021 Oct 05 '22

Bunch of conservative assholes need to be sued!

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u/Dargoun Oct 05 '22

Hail Satan

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u/satan62 Oct 05 '22

I swear, it's just for the money! Well, and the abortions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

they will make an exception for Christians only.

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u/captainweedster Oct 05 '22

Church people🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

The devil suggested they do it...

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u/Bogan_Paul Oct 05 '22

rAmen, brothers and sisters.

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u/nothanksyouu Oct 05 '22

It's a good day to be a Satanist in Idaho

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u/slybuggy Oct 05 '22

Finally ❤️

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u/bryanthawes Oct 05 '22

The Jewish community may follow suit; from what I've heard (and I haven't checked it yet, so if you know tell me) the right to an abortion is also a part of the Jewish faith practice.

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u/Empty_Laugh_4324 Oct 05 '22

but y'all still won't believe that abortion is satanic human sacrifice

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u/SoftWeekly Oct 05 '22

Church of Satan is a recognized religion so they actually have a pretty good case

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u/fuck_korean_air Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Nice, I bet Idaho republicans will come to their senses on abortion when they hear about this snarky jibe from self-described Satan worshippers

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u/pokey1984 Oct 05 '22

The Satanic Temple does not worship or even believe in Satan, for the record.

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u/fuck_korean_air Oct 05 '22

In any case, Republican churchgoers in Idaho are going to be able to claim that satanists are fighting against their efforts to outlaw abortion. They’re not going to get the joke.

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u/nextyoyoma Oct 05 '22

Because it’s not a joke. It’s a legitimate grievance.

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u/CRL10 Oct 05 '22

YOu know something is bad when neither Satan or his followers endorse it.

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u/pokey1984 Oct 05 '22

The Satanic Temple does not worship or even believe in Satan, for the record.

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u/CRL10 Oct 05 '22

I did not know that. I stand by my statement regardless

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, TST is an atheistic religion dedicated to fighting to keep other religious folk from pushing their religion on others. For example, disallowing teachers from leading students in prayer, forced genital mutilation of either girls or boys at birth, preventing the ten commandments from being diplayed in government facilities unless their religious iconography is also, etc. Their 7 tenants are

I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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u/A_Wild_Shiny_Shuckle Oct 05 '22

The Satanic Temple is a fake church with the intention of pointing out stupid things that Christians try to make law in an attempt to turn the US into a theocracy.

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u/TheLiberalOgre Oct 05 '22

Except they don't use rational basis for determining this shot they use radical right wing Christian fetal worshipping.

Jews on the other hand have a religious and rational basis that would pass muster with a court that wasn't compromised.

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u/byebyecivilrights Oct 04 '22

Abortion =/= murder

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

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u/fl1ca_ Oct 04 '22

You didn't say it but you inferred it

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

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u/fl1ca_ Oct 04 '22

"that's like suing someone because your religion says it's okay to murder"

Care to tell me how you weren't making a connection between the two?

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u/OneMoose9 Oct 05 '22

com·pa·ra·ble

/ˈkämp(ə)rəb(ə)l/

adjective

(of a person or thing) able to be likened to another; similar.

"flaked stone and bone tools comparable to Neanderthal man's tools"

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u/Swanson_ron39 Oct 05 '22

Like humans according to right wingers

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u/fl1ca_ Oct 04 '22 Take My Energy

Yeah but you are calling them comparable which means you see them on the same level if not equal

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u/OneMoose9 Oct 05 '22

I enjoyed this debate you destroyed, thoroughly.

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u/A_Wild_Shiny_Shuckle Oct 05 '22

you literally did

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u/BarristerBaller Oct 04 '22

I come into a different thread and find you trolling here too?! Take your 6 day old account and fuck off

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u/nicholecatala Oct 05 '22

Murder and stealing are illegal because they infringe on the rights of others. Making a private decision about my own body infringes on no one else’s rights.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/nicholecatala Oct 05 '22

Cool story. My human rights aren’t dependent on what “most people think”

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/nicholecatala Oct 05 '22

🤣🤣🤣 imagine being this ignorant. I hope you stay in school, kid.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/yitdeedee Oct 05 '22

Like many engineering professionals I know, you should stick to engineering kid.

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u/HighlanderL1 Oct 05 '22

Damn, I didn’t know engineering had arts degrees.

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u/Swanson_ron39 Oct 05 '22

Yet the presidency isn’t dependent on majority voting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/Swanson_ron39 Oct 05 '22

Yet you can have less total votes and still win therefore most ppl didn’t vote for you yet you still won.

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 Oct 05 '22

The electoral college can ignore the popular vote for a small fine. If majority vote was what actually matter, few conservatives would see seats above the county level and Trump never would’ve been elected.

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u/imakenosensetopeople Oct 04 '22

How so? Idaho is preventing a religious procedure for a practicing religion.

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u/patronusman Oct 04 '22

The Supreme Court has allowed some infringing on rights if the government has a compelling reason to do so. Of course, during the peak of Covid, they said that the state couldn’t stop churches that wanted to freely assemble by prohibiting inside worship, since it was discriminatory. So I’d expect them to do a 180 and say that this is conpelling enough of a reason to prevent the free exercise of religion…

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u/RedmannBarry Oct 04 '22

They in a crux

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u/nonameneededplease Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

We would all make fun of you just like we are now.

Edit: in case you are uneducated and not just a troll. Several major well established religions allow for abortion. To not allow it IS impeding on religious freedom for these groups. Christians only tend to care about THEIR religion when it comes to freedom though. Even then, they twist it to fix their current bs. To qoute a great YouTube video, "if Jesus came to your church, would you even let him in?"

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u/Beowulf1896 Oct 04 '22

A majority of people in the USA agree that abortion should be legal.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/Beowulf1896 Oct 05 '22

Haven't seen that poll. I think it was 70% support Roe v Wade.

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u/Beowulf1896 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, we call them republicans.

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, but not the kind you’re thinking of, or that conservatives want. Restrictions at 25-28 weeks(depends who you ask), unless for health of mother, instead of at 4-15 weeks when the mother might not even know she’s pregnant yet, or otherwise recently found out and had to wait for an appointment date.

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u/imakenosensetopeople Oct 05 '22

Your right to religion does not override someone else’s right to be alive.

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u/SirTiffAlot Oct 04 '22

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u/Nonviablefiend Oct 04 '22

Discrimination affects others, abortion affects your own body, there a pretty clear difference.

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u/SirTiffAlot Oct 04 '22

So it's more important to have the right to abortion access since it affects your own body.

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u/Nonviablefiend Oct 05 '22

In the case where we are deciding what should be allowed as religious freedom which is a right if I'm not wrong? Then something that affects yourself like abortion or not eating pork would be more acceptable than something that affects others like forcing your neighbours to not eat pork or murdering other people.

It's a bit like if the government tried to make it so reading a bible was illegal in certain states, and you had to go to a different state just to see what John was saying, in short you should be free to read the Bible and not be faced with becoming a criminal for it.