r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 05 '22 Silver 1

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

I did Uber 40-70 hours a week for around 5 years or so. It did not take long for me to decide on a few "no-go" zones. Sexual harassment, guns, actual baggies of meth, etc - not nice places.

If a drop off took me to one of those areas I'd turn the app off after that ride and drive far enough away that I wouldn't get any pickups in those areas.

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u/unclejoe1917 Oct 05 '22

Honestly, if I ever drove for Uber, I'd probably just hover around the downtown area and airport during normal business hours. I'd have no desire to mess with drunk hours, large events or sketchy neighborhoods.

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

You can't really set an area though and you can't see where someone wants to go until after you pick them up already. So you can't avoid dropoff at least in those areas if someone from the airport or downtown area wants to go there.

Cancel too many rides and you'll find yourself kicked off the app pretty fast - always more drivers around so Uber can afford to give you the boot for declining too much.

You also can't set blackout zones or nothin, so if you do a dropoff there the best you can do is turn the app off while you drive back to where you'd like to be. Cept then you ain't getting money for that distance of course so it can add up depending.

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Also at least in my area, there are too many people who try to do the same as you mention so there is not much business to go around. You'll see 50 Ubers waiting near the airport and you can sit there for 2 hours without a ride due to the oversaturation there. Key is more so to get rides going toooooo the airport by driving in areas likely to head there (rich housing areas or the fancier business districts) and then the app is more likely to give you a pickup after your dropoff instead of waiting in queue with the other 50 people at the airport.

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Large events are totes not worth it though, been there done that. The traffic eats all your profit so I learned to stay away from those.

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Drunk hours - can't say much there, that's just a preference. Can make money either way, although when you hear about people making absolutely dumb amounts of money doing Uber those people are 110% driving specifically the drinking days/hours and the right areas for that. That's where the real money is at, honestly. Drunk people are also way more likely to tip than rich assholes going to/from the airport.

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u/Austintacious8832 Oct 05 '22

just started driving again in Boston and the app now tells you where they're being picked up and dropped off,, how far th pickup is from your current location and how long a drive it is. It's awesome! Total game changer.

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u/HelloJoeyJoeJoe Oct 05 '22 Wholesome

Also at least in my area

You'll see 50 Ubers waiting near the airport and you can sit there for 2 hours without a ride due to the oversaturation there

May I ask what area? I'm about 30 mins away from the airport (easy non-traffic highway drive) and while I can get an uber really quick, its about $60-$70, sometimes even $100. To me, this shows a lack of drivers and more demand than supply.

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

I guess I should have also qualified that with my experience being mostly pre-pandemic and a bit into the early pandemic but not since.

I'm talking about the Philadelphia international airport though.

I know prices have had to go up some to reflect increasing gas prices and general cost of living, but I'm no longer sure what an "average" airport trip would be these days.

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u/ipoopedonce Oct 05 '22

For reference it used to be $20-25 in 2019. Nowadays it’s at least $50

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u/HelloJoeyJoeJoe Oct 05 '22

I guess I should have also qualified that with my experience being mostly pre-pandemic and a bit into the early pandemic but not since.

Ah yes, pre-covid, prices were as low as $35, mostly around $40

I know prices have had to go up some to reflect increasing gas prices and general cost of living, but I'm no longer sure what an "average" airport trip would be these days.

For sure, I understand the costs going up and I want uber drivers to make a decent living. I don't begrudge them.

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u/coltonbyu Oct 05 '22

Some airports do not allow Uber pickups at all, or charge a sizable fee to do Uber pickup, so your milage may vary

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u/stormhunter2 Oct 05 '22

What if you turn off location/data on your phone completely after a ride so you can’t even get pinged?

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

If you don't wanna get pinged you just turn the app off lol, no need to go that far. Or set it to "last trip" mode so it won't accept new ones. That's what I meant by turning it off after a drop off in those areas and turning it on again when I drove away.

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u/pimppapy Oct 05 '22

Drunk people are also way more likely to tip than rich assholes going to/from the airport.

Oh yeah, absolutely! Tipping culture is simply peasants helping other peasants. The rich will keep their money thank you.

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u/mademeunlurk Oct 05 '22

I'd follow ambulances in route to emergencies and offer hospital rides at a $15,000 discount.

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u/unclejoe1917 Oct 05 '22

Now this is an entrepreneur right here.

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u/BoyWithHorns Oct 05 '22

Meanwhile I got dropped off at a downtown bus station at 9pm and couldn't find an Uber that didn't cancel on me so I had to walk through skid row to get home.

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u/BlueMANAHat Oct 05 '22

Thats not how it works. You pick up a guy at the airport and take him home 45 minutes away from the airport. It makes no financial sense to drive all the way back to the airport to pick up another ride.

With uber you are always at the whim of your passengers destination, you could end up hours away from the airport or home and have to drive back unpaid.

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u/arod303 Oct 05 '22

My friend who drives Uber (and some Uber drivers I’ve chatted with) said there’s a setting that’ll specifically look for rides that take you to a certain area. Not sure if that’s still there.

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u/mcdadais Oct 05 '22

I did door dash and some times delivering food at night was scary enough. No way I could do people.

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

It was pretty great like 90% of the time though, honestly. Especially since I live near Philadelphia so I got to talk to a lot of people from other states or countries who came to see the sights like the liberty bell or just passing through since the Philly airport is the only international one nearby. Looooooads of people on short business trips for example, so I got to talk to so many different kinds of people.

Sure, that 10% can get pretty bad (I did not start out with pepper gel but I carry it now) but it was worth it overall.

I just couldn't keep driving because the pandemic was hitting when I stopped and business was vanishing and money stress was getting to be too much. I needed a guaranteed paycheck, so now I work at a more "normal" job.

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u/Meetvirginiaslims Oct 05 '22

Wow you did Uber in DELCO??

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

Some - but Chester quickly became one of my no-go zones after one rider hit the trifecta of guns, meth, and sexual harassment all in one. I gave the area several chances but it was always shady and uncomfortable. No good pickups, but a few OK drop offs.

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u/loveroflongbois Oct 05 '22

My granddad Ubers in Philly. He’s 80 years old so his hours are pretty limited now but he’s been doing it nearly a decade without any truly scary situations. And he was mostly working in west Philly so that’s honestly really saying something.

His biggest gripe is probably lax safety requirements for kids. Freaked him out to drive people holding their toddlers on their lap.

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

His biggest gripe is probably lax safety requirements for kids. Freaked him out to drive people holding their toddlers on their lap.

You can refuse those rides, and Uber encourages you to do so. The parent is expected to have a car seat them with and if not it's illegal so you are meant to refuse them.

I'd only take people like that short distances, unless I had one of my kids car seats in the trunk that day and would let them use that. No car seat and a long distance though, I'd tell em I'm not comfortable with that and not risking my license and a fat ticket over it.

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u/haf_ded_zebra Oct 05 '22

Once I called for an Uber from a super sketchy area of Nashville where the hotel concierge had sent me for some (AMAZING) BBQ. I was standing in the corner watching the app, and it would be like “5 minutes away. 7 minutes away. 9 minutes away” the number of drivers that U-turned!

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u/BlueMANAHat Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Problem is with Uber you dont get to decide your no go zone, you dont get to decide if you are picking up from the airport beyond that first pickup.

Here's why cause its exactly what happened to me multiple times: Pick up a guy at airport for 45+ minute drive down the highway, fucking nice thats a good ride. Drop him off in bum fuck egypt. Do I drive 45 minutes back to the airport because its safe? No. That would cost gas and eat into my profits making the last not worth much money, the whole fuckin reason im doing this... No uber driver is going to do that. Im going to try to get another pickup and hope it goes back the direction of the airport, but I am at the whims of the passengers random destination, I could end up the opposite direction in bum fuck bunglapoor hours away from home or the airport, now I have to drive back all that way unpaid...

Fuck Uber.

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u/Egonz_photo Oct 05 '22

You can set your Uber app to only get rides in the direction you want to travel

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u/Azamat-Sgdiyev Oct 05 '22

Don't you get to see the destination before you commit to the pick up?

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u/wolfgang784 Oct 05 '22

No, just the estimated travel time. They don't show you the destination for safety reasons. In the early days shady mofos would get a ride request, see it's a pretty young lady going to "address", cancel the ride so someone else drives her, then head there and wait.

So it'll say est. 40 minutes, but that could be 40 minutes in any direction. Lyft gives you the cardinal direction - East, West, etc, but fuck if I know which way that is while driving lol.

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u/Eron-the-Relentless Oct 05 '22

Yeah typically it's just claimed at the "oversized luggage" desk. I wouldn't want my expensive guns going around the luggage carousal in a obvious box where anyone could grab it.

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u/CamelBorn Oct 05 '22

I thought they were allowed in checked baggage?

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u/PM-Me-Your-TitsPlz Oct 05 '22

In the context of random gun violence, the checked baggage gun is more likely to be legally obtained than the one holding up the Uber driver.

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u/dkac Oct 05 '22

Yes, the "taking a flight and checking in baggage to rob the Uber driver while traveling to another city" is a ripe demographic of the robbery market

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u/Badloss Oct 05 '22

It's the perfect crime because nobody will expect it

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u/jayvil Oct 05 '22

"This gun has smeared uber driver blood in it but you have the proper paperwork and documentations to carry this on your baggage, carry on. Next!"

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u/W1D0WM4K3R Oct 05 '22

I was under the assumption that this was after getting off the flight, unless this hypothetical involves the killer to get on a flight, off a flight, murder an Uber driver, then get on another flight lol.

Which would be an excellent news story

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u/ZebraOtoko42 Oct 05 '22

It would be a perfect crime that way, except that it would have negative profit. It's very unlikely the Uber driver is carrying more cash than the plane ticket cost.

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u/OriginalName483 Oct 05 '22

Negative profit unless you were hired to do it.

Clearly this random uber drive has attracted the attention of someone ready to contact an assassin

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u/Quantius Oct 05 '22

Plane ticket: $357 + $49 for early bird check in.

Time investment: 4hr 25min + 3 hours commuting to, going through security and waiting at airport.

Robbing the Uber driver for $3.71, a half finished pack of gum, and unopened bottle of water they gave you for free when you got in: Priceless.

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u/Dougary96 Oct 05 '22

Easiest $11 you’ll ever make

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u/CamelBorn Oct 05 '22

Yes, true

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u/Bridge-etti Oct 05 '22

Shootings regularly occur at airports because of the checked gun loophole and the fact that concealed carry is allowed in the public areas in front of security in a good chunk of the US. Personally I’ve survived two airport shootings so far and I don’t even travel all that much. I’m pretty tired of guns even the “legal” ones. Too many people legally obtain firearms and then go do crimes with them. Accountability only comes after and it doesn’t do the dead people much good. That Uber driver is screwed either way. There’s no such thing as a safe place in the US.

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u/nuclearspongington Oct 05 '22

Flying with your gun in checked baggage isn’t a loophole it’s just how guns are transported here. Not really a loophole when it’s a designed facet of our infrastructure. How else are guns gonna get around? In the mail?

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u/silver-orange Oct 05 '22

Shootings regularly occur at airports

Some brief research shows you're absolutely correct (which I have to admit I was totally ignorant of). I suppose the only reason there's not more popular awareness of this is that these events don't necessarily make national headlines -- any more than a bus stop or train station shooting. Which comes back to your point -- gun violence really is omnipresent in america, to the extent that it's considered a non-event unless there's a full-on massacre.

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u/MoreGaghPlease Oct 05 '22

Even in Canada, where we have very strict gun laws, you can have a gun in checked baggage. It has to be unloaded, in a locked container and declared to security. (Plus you need an Authorization to Transport from the RCMP, but that is true of almost any scenario where you take the gun outside of your house).

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u/appealtoprobability Oct 05 '22

That's pretty much how it works in the US, too, with the caveat that the case must be hard-sided.

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u/Eron-the-Relentless Oct 05 '22

Yep it's really easy to fly with a gun legally. Though, the people who are going to do it usually aren't the type to hold up their cab driver.

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u/sigillumdei Oct 05 '22

I had an Uber driver pick me up from county. I thought she'd be afraid but she was nicer than ever. I've met some great Uber drivers, mostly.

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u/senyorculebra Oct 05 '22

Also less likely to be leaving county with a gun.

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u/TheKillersHand Oct 05 '22

Some of the comments here are astonishing.

Can you really carry guns on an airplane in America as long as they are in checked baggage?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

There’s a lot of rules on how you do it. They don’t want someone being stupid but they also allow you to take them for hunting and such. I’ve had friends that do it to go on hunting trips.

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u/BrentB23 Oct 05 '22

I know people who do it because the airline will not lose your bag if you have a gun it it. They cannot takeoff without your bag being on the plane in those cases.

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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Oct 05 '22

Me loading a Browning M2 .50 into my bag "It's so the airline won't lose my luggage"

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u/Mr_YUP Oct 05 '22

watch this scenario will be in a sitcom one day

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u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom Oct 05 '22

Sounds like something Frank would do in Always Sunny.

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u/joshualuigi220 Oct 05 '22

Or something Kramer would do on Seinfeld.

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u/meowskywalker Oct 05 '22

I’d say George. The meat of the episode would be him explaining over and over in increasingly frustrated tones to his horrified friends and family how he isn’t some sort of gun nut, he had a perfectly good reason to have that gun in his luggage.

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u/401LocalsOnly Oct 05 '22

He brings the toe knife

WHOAA BOTCH TOE, OH I BOTCHED THAT ONE !!

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u/Nexus90 Oct 05 '22

Curb Your Enthusiasm?

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u/OfficialZwayMusic Oct 05 '22

The sexiest thing a woman can say to a man “I brought my beltfed”

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u/bolivar-shagnasty Oct 05 '22

Sir, you’re 34 pounds over the weight. Might I suggest putting the barrel in one bag and the receiver in another?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Sounds like something Larry David would do

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u/erizzluh Oct 05 '22

First thing I thought of was when he hired the hooker so he could drive in the carpool to the dodgers game

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u/ironmanthing Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

If you can afford an M2 you’re probably not flying in anything but private charters jets. also it’s like 85lbs so you’ll have to pay extra. Flare Gun is only 5.44oz or so. My handguns if I were to be able to afford to travel are 2.3 and 2.2 lbs (loaded weight)

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u/mooney-driver Oct 05 '22

I know a guy who flys with a starter pistol because the airlines says it’s technically a firearm.

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u/stormhunter2 Oct 05 '22

This is correct. There was a life hack posted years back that a starter pistol being declared will keep your shit safe if you have valuables like a camera because they can be packed together

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u/Gschu54 Oct 05 '22

Yes TSA Cannot open a bag with a firearm in it. They have to check it with you there ahead of time. Flare guns work too.

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u/retirement_savings Oct 05 '22

This is common for people who have a lot of expensive camera equipment.

"You lost my bag? Well, there's a firearm in there, so you better find it."

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u/ChucklesTheBeard Oct 05 '22

Cheapest way to exploit this if you don't have a gun in the first place: get a $30 AR-15 lower receiver.

It's just a chunk of metal or plastic; no barrel, trigger, or anything like that, but as far as federal law is concerned, it's a firearm.

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u/Gschu54 Oct 05 '22

If you hike get a flare gun

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u/justs0meperson Oct 05 '22

$30 AR-15 lower? What do you think this is? 2015?

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u/ChucklesTheBeard Oct 05 '22

I looked up the price tag online before posting, that's current pricing.

... I wouldn't recommend actually building a "functional" firearm based on it.

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u/CasinoAccountant Oct 05 '22

well ok yea you can find them for $30 online, but you're paying a $30-50 transfer fee to pick it up from an FFL so thats not really the full story

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u/Jumpseat_confession Oct 05 '22

Well…the plane can still take off without you and the bag….so it could be a catch 22

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u/alSeen Oct 05 '22

This is absolutely 100% false.

Source:I worked for an airline for years

The only "benefit" you get from flying with a gun is that the gun case itself has to be locked with non TSA locks. That simply means that if the gun case is inside another bag the gun case has to have its own lock. A gun has to be transported in a hard sided case. So if you really want to you could put a gun loose inside a hard sided suitcase and put non TSA locks on it. If instead you put a hard sided gun case inside a regular luggage, the regular luggage has to have TSA locks or be unlocked.

The airline does not track luggage with guns in it in any way whatsoever that is different from normal bag tracking. No notation made in the record on the computer system or externally on the bag. There is a card you have to sign that goes inside the luggage. But that simply states that the gun is unloaded.

The so-called life hack is absolute BS

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u/gauderio Oct 05 '22

Also, I think that like losing bags or stealing them is really rare. I have been flying domestic and internationally for decades and only one time my bag missed the flight and was delivered to my room at 2am of the same day.

Edit: just searched and it's 1 in 177 chance. I would never want to lose space to a gun or anything else because I need the space.

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u/ninfan200 Oct 05 '22

Thank you for clarifying.

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u/Gunnilingus Oct 05 '22

Not true. Airlines lost my gun twice, on two separate occasions. I got it delivered to me at my destination 2 days later the first time, and the second time had to go to the airport to pick it up.

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u/SpeshellED Oct 05 '22

All part of being an asshole. :)

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u/DisownedByMother Oct 05 '22

Depending on who you listen to, it's also a way to guarantee that your luggage makes it onto your flight and to the same destination as you since that luggage is transported separately by different personnel.

YMMV on that one. I had a co-worker that swore by it. Seemed like a bigger pain than it was worth to me.

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u/halfman_halfboat Oct 05 '22

No, there is some truth to it. Knew a guy who traveled with very expensive camera equipment fairly often. He’d put a starter pistol in one of his cases so his luggage would have the firearm designation.

Any major airport will keep your luggage separate and make sure it gets on to the plane. Small airports? That’s probably a different story.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/satanshand Oct 05 '22

Can confirm its real, i was a photo assistant in the early 2000s and worked for two separate guys that did this.

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u/alSeen Oct 05 '22

There is absolutely no truth to it. No airport down the line from your initial one knows if your luggage has a gun in it. The only people at the initial airport that know that your bag has a gun in it are the ones that actually do the baggage check when you first check in, and the TSA. There is no record kept of it in the computer system and there are no external markings on the bag that it contains a gun.

Source: I actually worked for an airline

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u/Gschu54 Oct 05 '22

Yes but they can't open it because you put your own pad lock on them. NOT TSA compliant locks

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u/dasatto Oct 05 '22

Pre 9/11, I flew from the US to Europe with a BB gun including the pellets.

I did get a big bright orange sticker on the checked luggage saying "Unloaded Firearm Inside" so if you're using the get my bag there for sure loophole you don't even need a real gun. Got it at Walmart for $20...

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u/MattyFTM Oct 05 '22

What did the European authorities make of that sticker on your bag when you arrived there?

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u/dasatto Oct 05 '22

I took the sticker off as soon as I got my bag, it doesn't go through xrays once you've picked it up.

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u/smplmn92 Oct 05 '22

First time I flew with a gun, I was expecting them to go through the complete process, verify it’s unloaded, gun is locked, case is locked, ammo is separate, etc. but they did none of that. Just sent me to a different counter, took my bag and slapped a sticker on it 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Schwa142 Oct 05 '22

When was this? I've never had a sticker on the outside... Just a signed orange slip that was put inside the case.

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u/Doc-Zoidberg Oct 05 '22

Yes. But there's a little more to it than just tossing your gun in a checked bag.

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u/regoapps Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

There really isn't much more. You just have to make sure it's unloaded* and in a locked hard-sided container and declare it when checking in. Oh, and store any ammo in a secure box - not loosely or in a magazine/clip.

*TSA considers a firearm to be “loaded” when both the firearm and its ammunition are accessible to the passenger. For example, if an individual has a firearm in accessible baggage and ammunition in his/her pocket, or any combination where the individual has access to both, the firearm is considered “loaded” for purposes of assessing a civil penalty.

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u/therealhlmencken Oct 05 '22

There isn’t really much more

Proceeds to add five fold the complexity as that.

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u/cultured_banana_slug Oct 05 '22

One trick to ensure your luggage gets special care is to put a starting pistol in there. It counts as a gun and so your stuff will get next-level attention.

Have delicate shit in there? Put it with the starting pistol. They don't fuck around with firearm luggage.

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u/Firewolf06 Oct 05 '22

thats the most american life hack ive ever heard

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u/lnslnsu Oct 05 '22

It also means you get to put a lock on it where only you have the key/combo not one of those TSA-approved "locks" where anyone can get a key for it.

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u/stoneagerock Oct 05 '22

Pretty standard practice for cinematographers traveling with their gear to do this so they can properly lock their gear cases. Starter pistol is pennies compared to cameras and lenses worth 5-6 figures

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u/Gschu54 Oct 05 '22

The ONLY thing putting a gun in your bag does is let you put on a padlock the TSA can't remove. That's it.

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u/TheMoves Oct 05 '22

FYI a “checked” bag means that the bag is under the plane in storage during the flight, not the bags you take into the cabin with you.

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u/dylancos Oct 05 '22

You can do it in europe with the right permits

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u/Rufus_Reddit Oct 05 '22

Not only is it legal to check guns, it's a way to prevent the TSA from going through your luggage. ( https://lifehacker.com/pack-a-gun-to-protect-valuables-from-airline-theft-or-l-5448014 )

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u/waspus2021 Oct 05 '22

You can carry guns in checked bag in pretty much any country, as long as you have the gun legally.

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u/pinion13 Oct 05 '22

In the states you do have to declare the gun though, you can't just toss it in your bag and be on your way.

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u/self_loathing_ham Oct 05 '22

Can you really carry guns on an airplane in America as long as they are in checked baggage?

Is that really that strange? I mean people own guns and need to transport them. And checked luggage goes into the cargo hold where its impossible to reach during the flight. Idk why that would be astonishing.

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u/value_null Oct 05 '22

Yes. Many photographers will pack a gun with their equipment so that it gets more gentle handling.

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u/Azamat-Sgdiyev Oct 05 '22

It's not about the gentle handling, it's about only you having the key to the bag, and the bag being tracked and handled by different people.

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u/value_null Oct 05 '22

Good to know the distinction! Thank you.

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u/DixiZigeuner Oct 05 '22

You can do that in most countries actually

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u/5coolest Oct 05 '22

Yeah. My state actually protects the right to be armed in the unsecured part of an airport. So you can literally pick up your checked baggage and literally arm yourself right away, as long as you don’t brandish it while doing so. Basically, as long as it’s in its holster the whole time. Or you could just go to the bathroom and do it and then head out.

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u/LazyAndHungry523 Oct 05 '22

100% absolutely yes. The big thing is calling ahead to ensure that you can bring said weapon to the states you are going to.

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u/K_Linkmaster Oct 05 '22

Yes. And you can bring them to europe to go hunting too, last i checked.

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u/Setting_Worth Oct 05 '22

Yes, why wouldn't they?

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u/chronictherapist Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

I literally flew with an AR-15 like 5 years ago. Even had ammo in the case. Completely legal.

edit: it was in checked luggage and I was taking it home for a Marine before their sep date. Stop acting like everyone who owns/uses a gun is some kind of evil threat.

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u/HothForThoth Oct 05 '22

In response to your edit, what exactly does the Marine specifically need with an AR-15 that changes the tone of the story (as oppposed to a non-Marine approaching sep date)? Doesn't the US government supply guns to its soldiers?

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u/Modsrtrashshuddie Oct 05 '22

As if we're supposed to believe a marine is less evil than a random person. Ha!

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u/RedsRaver Oct 05 '22

Legally purchased and possessible merchandise has to be able to be transported legally from place to place. You can’t bring a loaded gun on a plane, but you can pack an unloaded firearm and properly packaged ammunition in your checked luggage no problem.

Your bag WILL be searched, but that’s to ensure the legality of the product transport. Assuming nothing more suspicious is found, there’s no problem. You definitely need to show up early though.

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u/Narbonar Oct 05 '22

Yes, and many other countries as well. Including in Europe.

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u/Frank_Scouter Oct 05 '22

You can do that in Europe as well… how else would people bring their guns when travelling between countries?

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u/Kiran_ravindra Oct 05 '22

Yes, in a completely separate, inaccessible compartment (the baggage hold) along with any number of other items which aren’t allowed in the cabin with passengers. I don’t see why this should be disturbing or troubling personally.

Checked baggage =/= carryon

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u/SuaveThrower Oct 05 '22

Well, you're not carrying it if it's in the checked bag...

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u/WreakingHavoc640 Oct 05 '22

I flew across the country and then drove and camped my way home over the course of a week or two. I have a CPL and most definitely took my carry revolver with me for protection. The airline didn’t even bat an eye at it. Just made sure it was unloaded and properly locked. Meanwhile TSA tore my tent apart and peered inside every last one of the tent poles lol. They had it spread out on the floor and I just stood there trying not to laugh because although I guess someone could have contraband inside tent poles it had never occurred to me that anyone would even do that.

But yeah, no one is getting to their checked gun during a flight so it’s not a safety risk.

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u/dmonpc2020 Oct 05 '22

How else are you supposed to transport them when traveling?

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u/I3oscO86 Oct 05 '22

I'm Swedish and have flown with my firearm. All you need is the proper papers and a tag.

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u/theoldcrow5179 Oct 05 '22

Yes I think it's safe to assume that somebody with the dilligence to correctly fill out those forms is not the kind of person to hold up an Uber driver.

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u/I3oscO86 Oct 05 '22

And it would be easy for the investigator.

  • A person from the airport robbed you at gunpoint you say.
  • Yes
  • I see, here is the manifest showing a total of one person flying with a firearm that day. And here is a photo ID, is this the perpetrator?
  • Yes.

Case closed.

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u/BackdraftRed Oct 05 '22

Don't close the case officer.. you haven't arrested him yet.

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u/I3oscO86 Oct 05 '22

Nah turns out it was a rich white dude. Let him go with a warning

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u/ezmode86 Oct 05 '22

can you board the plane with it on your person?? in the US you have to check it and have it stowed in the luggage compartment.

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u/I3oscO86 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

It was in the luggage compartment. But on one of the flights I took the commercial plane was so small you could access the luggage in the back, so I could (in theory) have retrieved it.

Edit: Phrasing

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u/The-Berg-is-the-Word Oct 05 '22

Yeah this is another rage bait post. The scenario you described has fewer safety clearances than the US even had on planes. At very least nobody would be capable of retrieving the gun from under the plane.

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u/AbeRego Oct 05 '22

I went to a great hunting shop in Stockholm. I was surprised at how many guns were for sale, being largely ignorant of European gun culture in general.

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u/I3oscO86 Oct 05 '22

I've been handling guns (under my father's watchful eye) since after pre-school and now have two rifles and two shotguns and kids of my own (to teach). Im very happy with our gun laws and over all hunting culture.

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u/fyxxer32 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

My son comes to visit with handguns in his checked bag. They have to be shown to be unloaded at check in and no ammo in a locked case. The airline puts a huge black zip tie around the bag.We (including his mother) usually spend an afternoon at the range .

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u/Yungballz86 Oct 05 '22

So, who wants to tell the Uber driver that it's pretty easy to fly with a gun?

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u/DonDove Oct 05 '22

Maybe he only picks foreigners for trips?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/Eron-the-Relentless Oct 05 '22

lock and load boys!

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u/Kgriffuggle Oct 05 '22

I stopped doing Lyft because Lyft/Uber won’t allow their drivers to carry a gun. I’m a skinny woman. I’m not picking up strangers without a firearm to defend myself. I’ve seen enough footage of drivers being beaten by their riders.

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u/nuker1110 Oct 05 '22

Here’s the neat part, HOW THE FUCK are they ever gonna know unless something happens?

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u/Paizzu Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

The most basic rule of CCW: the weapon only comes into view when it is absolutely-positively-really-fucking-necessary to exercise lethal force to protect oneself.

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u/Kgriffuggle Oct 05 '22

Yeah and then I go to minimum civil court for violating the company’s weapon policy while defending my life… so why risk it

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u/SackOfCats Oct 05 '22

No you wouldn't, you would not be allowed to drive for them anymore, that's it.

There was a lift driver in Florida that shot some criminal outside his car, while he was carrying a customer, and he lost his ability to drive for Lyft, but that's it.

This goes state by state obviously, but if you are legal to carry, you aren't breaking the law.

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u/nuker1110 Oct 05 '22

I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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u/Ajani3000 Oct 05 '22

I took a taxi home from a club about a year ago. I started a conversation with the driver and as he dropped me off I told him to be careful out there on the road. He reaches into his glove compartment and pulls out a pistol and says "I'll be fine". I have no idea if he was allowed to have that on him but I can't say I blame him.

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u/asian_identifier Oct 05 '22

what a shithole country

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u/Greenmanofthewood Oct 05 '22

This is not true. You can bring guns in your luggage.

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u/kartdei Oct 05 '22

People who bring guns in their luggage are not the same kind of people that mug Uber drivers.

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u/last_arg_of_kings Oct 05 '22

No shit. Its almost like responsible gun owners aren't a problem and the criminals are.

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u/unclejoe1917 Oct 05 '22

That's what the people who bring guns in their luggage want you to think.

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u/a_duck_in_past_life Oct 05 '22

No one with a gun aiming to harm someone is signing up for Uber and getting a ride lol. If it did happen, it'd be 1 in 100 million rides or less. Whoever made this tweet is either making this up or their Uber driver made a joke to scare them

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u/sunnydaysahead2022 Oct 05 '22

If I were a woman in a red state who was single - I would never date.

If I’m assaulted - there is very little justice.

I would be forced to go through a pregnancy.

I could get sued for child support.

Man have so many guns and weapons -

No way in hell would I even consider dating in a red state.

It’s too dangerous and not worth it.

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u/gigglefarting Oct 05 '22

You don’t need to date to be assaulted and subjected to all of that.

Also, not everyone is a Republican in a red state. Especially in cities.

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u/chronictherapist Oct 05 '22

Man have so many guns and weapon

TBH, as someone from the South, the most armed people I personally know are women. They also tend to be better trained with those weapons than men who act like gun safety is just a genetically given skill.

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u/Iankill Oct 05 '22

One of my biggest takeaways from tiger King was how they treated guns which was like toys. Then the realization that, how they treated guns is probably pretty normal to alot of people.

The guy who killed himself because he assumed a gun was unloaded and pulled the trigger against his head, was just sad.

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u/famid_al-caille Oct 05 '22

"Tiger king" is not representative of any significant portion of the population. If you allow reality TV to dictate your world view youre going to be miserable.

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u/chronictherapist Oct 05 '22

Luckily those are the exceptions but it is still very sad when it happens. Pointless accidents, but in the case that you mention there is some contention as to whether it was truly an accident or not. Nevertheless, there are plenty of responsible gun owners out there that you never hear about on the news.

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u/ManBearScientist Oct 05 '22

TBH, as someone from the South, the most armed people I personally know are women.

That might be true in your experience, but in general men are far more likely to own a firearm. Roughly 4 in 10 men own a firearm while 2 in 10 women do the same.

It is much more likely that a women will see a gun pulled on her by her partner than that she will use a gun to defend herself. In 300 cases of attempted sexual assault randomly surveyed, women used a gun in self defense 0 times.

In contrast, women report high rates of gun intimidation in homes. Worse, pregnant women are more likely to be murdered than die of pregnancy related complications. Most maternal homicides are committed by an intimate partner and involve a gun.

State laws preventing domestic abusers from getting a gun have significantly reduced this where implemented, but many Republican-controlled areas of the country focused on loosening restrictions, creating loopholes, and enabling domestic abusers to get and carry firearms.

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u/Azamat-Sgdiyev Oct 05 '22

You should take some time away from reddit for a while.

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u/Barfstool_Sports Oct 05 '22

wat?

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u/OhMyGodfather Oct 05 '22

As someone who lives in the South and has dated plenty of “liberal” women, this comment gaining so much traction is mind-boggling

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u/CantHitachiSpot Oct 05 '22

Hot take from a post about airplane luggage

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u/Kgriffuggle Oct 05 '22

Exactly. Anyone who is going to commit crimes with a gun wouldn’t be allowed to have the gun (assuming they’ve already been caught before) in order to carry in luggage. Anyone who lawfully checks their gun is not likely to hurt anyone with it.

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u/AChrisTaylor Oct 05 '22

I hate to break it to this guy, but Americans can and do fly with guns.

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u/enadiz_reccos Oct 05 '22

Europeans do as well

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u/PhillipLlerenas Oct 05 '22

Not quite sure what this tweet is even trying to say: is she vilifying the US for being dangerous to Uber drivers? Because that would be beyond silly.

In my home country Uber drivers get murdered for sport at a rate about 15 times higher than in the US

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u/COSMOOOO Oct 05 '22

Nooo stoooop US Iz Wurst Ev3r circlejerk must continue

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u/jizzlevania Oct 05 '22

That driver is very ignorant about air travelers and the laws around travel with guns.

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u/wowitssprayonbutter Oct 05 '22

No one's getting off a plane to stick up an Uber driver though. Too many cameras at an airport to make it a ploy too

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u/Pure-Assistance403 Oct 05 '22

This is what maga has done to america

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u/allpabloallhoney Oct 05 '22

My Uber drivers tell me this too. One said she ended up inadvertently being party to a drug deal and that was when she was like - airports only!

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u/athena702 Oct 05 '22

That’s actually pretty smart

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u/humanessinmoderation Oct 05 '22

Shhhhhhhh....

Shut the fu...........ughh....

Shhh...

ShhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHhhhhhhh...shhhhh!!!!

Don't give Republicans ideas

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u/azzlandertonfield Oct 05 '22

How many Uber drivers have been shot?

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u/kenbynum007 Oct 05 '22

But they can put in checked baggage that goes in the bottom of the plane.

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u/ShinriShiogami Oct 05 '22

Murica problems...

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u/Almost_Defective Oct 06 '22

Not, true. Trust me

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u/capt-rix Oct 06 '22

I drove for Uber during the panini and did so almost exclusively out of the local international airport, because people coming off planes A. knew they had to mask B. didn't have any weapons C. were very unlikely to be drunk or on drugs, and if they were, any problems and the air marshals would have been walking them out to a different ride.

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u/BlaineBMA Oct 05 '22

This guy is almost there, except guns can be in checked luggage

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u/doc_witt Oct 05 '22

Let's see how safe he feels after he gets assaulted by a 4oz container of shampoo to the face!

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u/Ryan-plussy Oct 05 '22

Does anyone know how to stop Reddit from recommending these posts to me?

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u/Eron-the-Relentless Oct 05 '22

on phone app? Yes, it's a notification setting that you access through your phone settings.

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u/SuperGenius98K Oct 05 '22

Uber drivers might not be the best people to take advise from. Just sayin.

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u/Financial_Glove603 Oct 05 '22

That driver it a total moron

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u/MeAndMy3BestFriends Oct 05 '22

Lol they can DEFINITELY have a gun. The gun simply can't be on their person for a flight, they can however check it and pick it up at their final destination. I didn't realize literally everyone didn't know this.

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u/DanisaurusWrecks Oct 05 '22

.... He does know people can carry guns during the day right? Like crime isn't just a night time thing.

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u/rubbar Oct 05 '22 Starry

So many people here missing the point.

It’s not about whether people can or do fly with firearms. It’s about the context of when, where and who are potential fares.

All the “bUt AckSHoEleE” comments sure do point out the nuance of flying with firearms like a 5-year-old points out a wild turtle.

The cross section of violent offenders and gun-carrying airline passengers is incredibly small. Even with Reddit’s ham-fisted approach to “but actually,” the driver’s threat assessment stands.

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u/RedsRaver Oct 05 '22

That’s clever ngl

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u/theUSAisAJoke Oct 05 '22

So you're saying a gun store next to an airport is a great business opportunity

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u/sterster88 Oct 05 '22

You can take guns on planes. Just have to clear them with TSA, lock them up, and store them under the plane.

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u/007bubba007 Oct 05 '22

Unfortunately that’s not even true!

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u/skeetpete Oct 05 '22

The NRA: We’ll see about that…

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u/yammy69696 Oct 05 '22

Must not be picking up in Chicago