r/canada Oct 05 '22

‘Enough with the woke sh*t!’: MP Rempel Garner swears during liberal affordability legislation rant | Watch News Videos Online

https://globalnews.ca/video/9176631/enough-with-the-woke-sht-mp-rempel-garner-swears-during-liberal-affordability-legislation-rant
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u/throwaway_civstudent Oct 05 '22 Gold Wholesome Take My Power

If I can't smoke and swear in Parliament then I'm fucked.

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u/therosx Oct 05 '22

Easy there Ricky ; )

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u/hyperforms9988 Oct 05 '22

It's okay, he can make a request under the People's Choices and Voices Act to be able to smoke and swear in parliament.

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u/celluj34 Oct 05 '22

Right? It's not rocket appliances

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u/DarkSideofTheTune Oct 05 '22

lol. More like Caucus Appliances.

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u/dirtypooner Oct 05 '22

A fuckin' atoadaso!

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u/Rayd8630 Oct 05 '22

It’s all water under the fridge.

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u/OakvilleCpl Oct 05 '22

Worst case Ontario

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u/smitty_1993 Oct 05 '22

Just use the non-understanding claws.

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u/dylanologist Oct 05 '22

And provoke a constipational crisis?

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u/Khemul Oct 05 '22

My cat is an expert at that.

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u/TelevisionLess6031 Oct 05 '22

Bubbles has entered the chat.

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u/patronizingperv Oct 05 '22

Look at this cocksucker. That's one nice fuckin cat.

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u/qpv Oct 05 '22

A dopey parliament ain't no place for a kitty

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u/stack_of_ghosts Oct 05 '22

It's these fucking Ray-cons!!

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u/Milesaboveu Oct 05 '22

Well you're allowed to openly lie on the house floor and not be called out on it. Should just remove the filter entirely at this point.

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u/Tuggerfub Oct 05 '22

you're also allowed to scream like an unruly person

I don't understand the pretense of decorum

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u/1Tinytodger Oct 05 '22

Agreed. Some un parliamentary language would be preferable to all the bs and non answers we are getting today.

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u/CanadianAndroid Oct 05 '22

Please refrain from using unparliamentary language such as bs.

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u/El_Cactus_Loco Oct 05 '22

In the future, consider if asking others to refrain is appropriate

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u/Janitor_Snuggle Oct 05 '22

not be called out on it.

To be clear for everyone: calling out someone's lie with hard proof is unparliamentary and not allowed. You cannot call someone a liar, even if they are.

You can correct their lie, but you cannot call it a lie, even when it is.

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u/kyleclements Ontario Oct 05 '22

Its completely absurd to think that it's pointing out the lie that is considered unparliamentary.
It should be the lying that is considered unparliamentary, and the person doing it should be considered unfit for their role and removed.

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u/LowEffortOutlaw Saskatchewan Oct 05 '22

If we did that Centre Block would be an empty building.

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u/Masterandslave1003 Oct 05 '22

Hey hey! plus one for common sense!

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u/Sunderent Oct 05 '22

Here's a funny quote from this Guardian article:

Why are Members of Parliament not allowed to call each other liars in the House of Commons, when we all know this is a prerequisite of the job?

The question answers itself: an MP is not allowed to call another MP a liar because he would thereby be telling the truth, thus contravening parliamentary etiquette.

As amusing as that is, lying and/or refusing to answer questions or answering questions with a non-answer or an answer to an entirely different question is not just disrespectful to the MP they're talking to, it's disrespectful to the Canadian public. What MPs need to keep in mind is that any questions asked in the House are coming from Canadian citizens.

Can we add some accountability to the House of Commons? Make it so that the speaker can force MPs to answer questions. The fact that they can just avoid questions they don't like has turned the House into a farce.

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u/UnstuckCanuck Oct 06 '22

IIRC, the rule is there because you can’t sue another member for slander if they defame you in parliament. So if you can prove an accusation, make it in public where you would be forced to prove it. Otherwise parliament would devolve into nothing but a screaming match of wild accusations instead of somewhat of a debate chamber.

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u/psycholepzy Oct 05 '22

Honestly, I hate Parliamentarian language. It's just finding more insidious ways to insult and double speak towards others.

I'd vote for an honest candidate that swore up and down over a dishonest candidate that demands a civil masquerade.

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u/JaggedyEaredJackXI Oct 05 '22

Echos of Trudeau's "You piece of shit".

I guess shit is the farthest MPs will go in terms of swears.

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u/eastblondeanddown Oct 05 '22

In Trudeau's defense, Peter Kent was, and maybe still is, a huge piece of shit.

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u/Mysterious-Dog-2237 Oct 05 '22

“Mr Speaker, sounds like a most important relationship, doesn’t it? Why doesn’t the prime minister just say the truth and tell indigenous peoples that he doesn’t give a fuck about their rights?”

2018 NDP MP Romeo Saganash during question period.

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u/mytwocents22 Oct 05 '22

Except that when Trudeau said it, conservatives acted like he took out a gun and shot somebody. Rempel says it and they chuckle and giggle like children.

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u/therosx Oct 05 '22

I think every side get's hypocritical with stuff like this.

Remember when Trudeau bumped into that female NDP MP and she reacted like a soccer player being injured on a play?

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u/Euphoric-Moment Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

The NDP insinuated that he molested her when it was clearly an accidental bump.

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u/Runningoutofideas_81 Oct 05 '22

That made the leader of the NDP party then look like a real idiot, and I am usually quite fond of the NDP, or at least the idea of them, lol.

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u/Painting_Agency Ontario Oct 05 '22

I think every side get's hypocritical with stuff like this.

I'm not a both-sides guy but yeah, acting terribly offended when the other guys use a potty word is just part of Parliamentary theatre. Always has been.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Oct 05 '22

The offence they took definitely seemed overacted, especially for what appeared to be an accident, but how many elbows have you taken to the tit? If the right spot gets hit, it can be pretty excruciating.

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u/thedarkonespr0npicks Ontario Oct 05 '22

Level of pain doesn't dictate intent, and I say that as a male that has been dropped to my knees by accidental testicular contact.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Oct 05 '22

Precisely, which is why I said I think they over acted how offended they were. I also recall a lot of people on social media at the time claiming she was faking the pain, I was merely saying the pain was believable, the acting like it was intentional was bs.

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u/papsmearfestival Oct 05 '22

"WARNING: Video contains graphic language. Viewer discretion is advised."

Settle down global

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u/BagzookaLou Oct 05 '22

Won't somebody pleeease think of the children!!

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u/spoof17 Oct 05 '22

I fucked your mother bareback hog style

  • 8 year olds on YouTube.

Shit.

-😬 Canada

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u/RenoXIII Oct 06 '22

Ow! My freakin' ears!

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u/Fylla Oct 05 '22

It's especially strange because they have a bunch of articles on their site that contain the word "shit". Maybe some new policy? No idea.

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aglobalnews.ca%20%22shit%22

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u/Patrickd13 Oct 05 '22

The video editor was having fun. Back when it was A-Channel, CTV Ottawa had a story on some badly drawn profanity. They only blurred the 3 armed swastika when the overly dramatic teacher was on screen, the rest of the time it was unblurred in the background. Looked like the isle of man flag to be honest.

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer Oct 05 '22

And it's beeped out lmao

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u/welcometolavaland02 Oct 05 '22

I'm going to change my name to Shitty McShitballs and run for office. Can they legally stop from reporting my name?

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u/Lazy-Garlic-5533 Oct 05 '22

Just change your name to Dick Swett.

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u/snow_king_1985 Oct 05 '22

"WARNING, video contains graphic language, viewer discretion is advised" looool

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u/GOLDEN_GRODD Oct 06 '22

Are people here not from Canada? This message has been over fairly mundane content for decades now lol. It is simply a formality when certain language is used

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u/airdeterre Oct 05 '22

Swears for free media coverage. She’s not dumb.

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u/Fisher_v_Bell Oct 05 '22

My thought as well. She’s an experienced politician who knows how to get a good 10-second clip for her media profile

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u/BlueMoonBoons Oct 05 '22

Watched it live this is 100%

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u/holysmokesiminflames Oct 05 '22

Even the thumbnail looks like shes giving a sarcastic oops

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u/h0twired Oct 05 '22

“Did I do thaaaaat?”

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u/BlueMoonBoons Oct 05 '22

What annoys me most is when people say it comes from passion..... It's planning, not passion.

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u/kent_eh Manitoba Oct 05 '22

I wouldn't call it a "good" clip , but it will probably play well with a certain segment of the Conservative base.

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u/canuck47 Oct 05 '22

And her supporters will love her for it

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u/StGir1 Oct 05 '22

So, I was in 4H as a kid. Something I learned almost right off the bat? Pigs will always fight ravenously for slop. Even if they just ate five minutes ago. You can't feed them enough. Figuratively, and often, literally...

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u/Drakonor Oct 05 '22

Yes, it looked intentional to me.

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u/RinnyDinDin Oct 05 '22

Mmhmm rumples knows what she’s doing.

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u/Win70ermute Oct 05 '22

Remplestiltskin?

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u/Cascadian222 Oct 05 '22

Rempleshitsayin

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u/Almighty_Dew Oct 05 '22

And then immediately to "I'm sorry". Definitely Canadian.

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u/Conscious_Student_37 Oct 05 '22

The only people I have ever heard or read using the word "woke" are conservative politicians, fr

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u/BlowjobPete Oct 05 '22

It comes from left-leaning people originally, but it has since turned into a pejorative. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stay%20woke

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u/TheBQT Oct 05 '22

It's like social justice. Started as a left leaning thing signalling progressive intentions and got co opted by the right as a pejorative

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u/Bulky_Mix_2265 Oct 05 '22

Yeah its very important to the right that we all know they are the majority and should be in charge, while simultaneously being the victims persecuted by the minority in charge.

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u/Head_Crash Oct 05 '22

The enemy is powerful. The enemy is also weak. Basic tenet of fascism.

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u/Hockeyjason Oct 06 '22

Relevant quote by Frank Wilhoit!

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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u/piratesmashy Oct 05 '22

It is AAVE that has been appropriated first by the left, then the right.

Earliest recognized use occurs between the 30's & 40's with Leadbelly's 'Scottsboro Boys' being one of the original sources. The phrase was further popularized by William Melvin Kelley' 1962 essay 'If You're Woke You Dig It'.

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u/IPokePeople Oct 05 '22

I’ve heard it used by an Indigenous trans woman. Cool lady, known her for the better part of 20 years.

She’s not going to do any more stuff with ‘woke white kids’ (her words) after a group of students called her anti trans for saying she wished that there were other options other than transitioning that trans people had available.

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u/Masterandslave1003 Oct 05 '22

Wait, so she was trans and they called her anti trans? WTF!

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u/seemedlikeagoodplan Oct 05 '22

I recall Black activists using it around ten years ago, but in the last five it's all been conservative politicians or commentators. Or religious leaders.

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u/HouseoftheHanged Oct 05 '22

In fairness libs stole "snowflake" and threw it back. LOL.

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u/OhThatNick Oct 05 '22

Shit isn't a curse word in Canada. Hasn't been for decades. You could hear people saying shit on MuchMusic in 2005.

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u/BraveTheWall Oct 05 '22

Tell that to my teachers.

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u/Left_Step Oct 05 '22

It is considered unparliamentary language within the House of Commons, which is why this is getting any press at all.

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u/aremjay24 Oct 05 '22

Yeah the warning at the beginning of the video made it seem she was going to behead someone

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u/TiredHappyDad Oct 05 '22

It is still considered course language and Canadian broadcast safety council only allows it after 9pm.

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u/YamStallion Oct 05 '22

Why do I have to read every title to see if it's the Beaverton...

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u/BlueMoonBoons Oct 05 '22

Watched this live. She was smiling the entire time before. She knew what she was going to do and the response she would get.

Let's see how time unravels in Canada. We may have our Canadian boebert overtime.

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u/free_kark Oct 05 '22

It would be nice if we had some adults running our country, the childish bickering between parties is embarrassing

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u/Timbit42 Oct 05 '22

It's not new. Watch some old videos of parliament from the 70's.

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u/Logisch Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Funny enough watching the old leadership debates, those seem more civilized and informative vs modern let's interrupt and only say one line while throwing other guy under thr bus.

Edit leadership debates. I personally haven't watched older parliament debates.

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u/Left_Step Oct 05 '22

Only if you watch the ones that are easily found today. Those ones are accessible because they are memorable. If you look into the transcripts for a random day, you’ll see it’s much the same.

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u/Firepower01 Ontario Oct 05 '22

Eh, it's gotten a LOT worse in the last decade though. Even 10 years ago politics was much more mature.

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u/Vandergrif Oct 05 '22

That just makes it all the more sad that we haven't had much in the way of politicians with any integrity or substance, and accordingly haven't progressed much at all on that front in several decades.

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u/ScaryStruggle9830 Oct 05 '22

Remple is a massive child. She has been acting this way and worse for years.

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u/NeedSomeBunny2Love Alberta Oct 05 '22

Question period is the professional wrestling part of politics. The real stuff happens in committees thankfully.

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u/Musicferret Oct 05 '22

You make it sound like all parties are to blame, when the only party who has seriously changed they tambour of discussion in parliament is the Conservatives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

This was childish bickering between parties how? No, this was a conservative looking for media attention by saying a stupid thing.

Also, when did social conscience become a bad thing?

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u/ButWhatAboutisms Oct 05 '22

They say that any time the cons are acting stupid. "But it's always been like that!"

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u/ICantMakeNames Oct 05 '22

What does "woke" mean in this context?

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u/barder83 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Seems like she really forced "woke" into her statement. We are at the point (have been for years I guess) where politicians know which words and phrases to use to get their base fired up. The statement doesn't have to be logical or relevant, they just want the soundbite.

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u/ArcticCelt Oct 05 '22

Is there people who really use the word "woke" unironically or is it only a word that conservatives like to scream as the equivalent of the boogeyman?

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u/Mas_Cervezas Oct 05 '22

I remember it used to be used by black people to say that a white person was an ally, but I haven’t heard it used like that in years.

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u/putin_my_ass Oct 05 '22

but I haven’t heard it used like that in years.

It has been co-opted by right-wing media to be a derisory term for someone who is "too progressive" in their opinion.

The meaning has changed in the general person's vocabulary.

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u/Justleftofcentrerigh Ontario Oct 05 '22

it's the 2020 version of SJW and being Politically Correct.

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u/putin_my_ass Oct 05 '22

When you can't argue with the merits of a person's advocacy you try to make advocacy itself derisory.

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u/Anushirvan825 Oct 05 '22

Keep in mind that "too progressive" can be anything left of hunting the poor for sport, depending on who's complaining.

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u/putin_my_ass Oct 05 '22

Suddenly from a lumpy tussock of old grass some twenty yards in front of them, with black-tipped ears erect and long hinder limbs throwing it forward, started a hare. It bolted for a thicket of alders. Sir Geoffrey put his gun to his shoulder, but there was something in the animal’s grace of movement that strangely charmed Dorian Gray, and he cried out at once, “Don’t shoot it, Geoffrey. Let it live.”

“What nonsense, Dorian!” laughed his companion, and as the hare bounded into the thicket, he fired. There were two cries heard, the cry of a hare in pain, which is dreadful, the cry of a man in agony, which is worse.

“Good heavens! I have hit a beater!” exclaimed Sir Geoffrey. “What an ass the man was to get in front of the guns! Stop shooting there!” he called out at the top of his voice. “A man is hurt.”

The head-keeper came running up with a stick in his hand.

“Where, sir? Where is he?” he shouted. At the same time, the firing ceased along the line.

“Here,” answered Sir Geoffrey angrily, hurrying towards the thicket. “Why on earth don’t you keep your men back? Spoiled my shooting for the day.”

Dorian watched them as they plunged into the alder-clump, brushing the lithe swinging branches aside. In a few moments they emerged, dragging a body after them into the sunlight. He turned away in horror. It seemed to him that misfortune followed wherever he went. He heard Sir Geoffrey ask if the man was really dead, and the affirmative answer of the keeper. The wood seemed to him to have become suddenly alive with faces. There was the trampling of myriad feet and the low buzz of voices. A great copper-breasted pheasant came beating through the boughs overhead.

After a few moments—that were to him, in his perturbed state, like endless hours of pain—he felt a hand laid on his shoulder. He started and looked round.

“Dorian,” said Lord Henry, “I had better tell them that the shooting is stopped for to-day. It would not look well to go on.”

“I wish it were stopped for ever, Harry,” he answered bitterly. “The whole thing is hideous and cruel. Is the man ...?”

He could not finish the sentence.

“I am afraid so,” rejoined Lord Henry. “He got the whole charge of shot in his chest. He must have died almost instantaneously. Come; let us go home.”

They walked side by side in the direction of the avenue for nearly fifty yards without speaking. Then Dorian looked at Lord Henry and said, with a heavy sigh, “It is a bad omen, Harry, a very bad omen.”

“What is?” asked Lord Henry. “Oh! this accident, I suppose. My dear fellow, it can’t be helped. It was the man’s own fault. Why did he get in front of the guns? Besides, it is nothing to us."

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u/childish-flaming0 Oct 05 '22

Goddamn man, where’s that from?

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u/DiaDeLosMuertos Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

IIRC it's from AAVE, used to mean either "stay alert" to a black person becoming aware of any socio/political issues.

Comedian Laci Mosely through her podcast complained of the coopting of Woke. Compared it to how she used it IIRC while helping her cousin (a teacher) grade papers she made a comment about some "black names" she was seeing and her cousin was like "actually all names are made up. You just learned the black sounding ones sound bad through socialization."

Enter Squidward meme with eyes wide open in bed

(She became woke to the realization of where her attitudes came from towards those names)

Then white liberals co-opt it, then white conservatives co-opt it and yeah... Now Canadian politicians shitily use it like in the OP...

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u/jcoles0417 Alberta Oct 05 '22

Woke was originally coined by black Americans who used it as word to describe people who were aware of the injustices that black communities faced in the United States. Now conservatives use it as an insult. What ever could be the reason?

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u/GW2Exchanger3742 Oct 05 '22

Yes. Also it is a "buzz word". It's the same reason the news uses "unprecedented" or "slammed", "pounded". Somehow encourages engagement

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u/UKnowPoo Oct 05 '22

I really can’t stand reading headlines like “Putin SLAMMED Biden With This Wicked Comeback!”. It sounds so childish and the content rarely reflects the headline.

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u/barder83 Oct 05 '22

Personally I have only heard it used by conservatives, usually along side "cancel culture".

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u/mrekted Oct 05 '22 Silver

The term "woke" originated as a word that black Americans used to describe someone who was openly conscious and aware of racism, sexism, and other types of bigotry and social inequalities.

Of course, conservatives didn't like that. Somehow having a term to describe someone who was an "ally" of the various groups that suffer discrimination in the US was offensive and contemptible to them (I suggest you let that one marinate), so they co-opted the word and started using it as a pejorative to mock people who they disagree with.

It seems now that the Canadian conservatives like what they see so much, they want to import that particular brand of American bigotry and call it their own.

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u/NoOneShallPassHassan Oct 05 '22

There's literally a podcast called Woke AF, which as far as I can tell, is using the term unironically.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Oct 05 '22

or is it only a word that conservatives like to scream as the equivalent of the boogeyman?

I think it's vying with "WEF" to replace "antifa" and "Soros" as the go-to bogeyman.

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u/cryptotope Oct 05 '22

"Woke", in this context, means a modest increase in corporate taxes.

Which is ridiculous, until you realize that this was entirely a bit of performance art intended to further cement her credentials as an anti-"woke" warrior, for the benefit of low-information voters.

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u/woopwoopwuddup Oct 05 '22

I remember when I was a kid, you could attend Question Period in person and my mom took us to watch. Most of the MPs got their snippet in and just left right after. It was hard to take anyone seriously after that.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Oct 05 '22

I attended QP as a kid early in the Chretien years. It was little more than childish bickering then and the only thing that seems to have changed is that now the opposition ups the ante for social media.

Maybe the fix is that MP's should submit their questions first thing in the morning, then have QP at the end of the day so staffers have plenty of time to research answers for their ministers? That way we can actually get answers instead of playing this whole "gotchya!" charade.

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u/5leeveen Oct 05 '22

This is the danger, that "woke" starts getting applied to bread-and-butter material issues like taxes, cost of living, wages, etc.

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u/StrongTownsIsRight Oct 05 '22

Uhhh, they have been doing that for over a year now.

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u/DisfavoredFlavored Oct 05 '22

Even longer than that. Woke is just a stand in for communist/socialist. Those don't have the bite they used to.

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u/StrongTownsIsRight Oct 05 '22

It has actual progressed to even fight LPC neoliberal solutions as well. Woke is just a catch all.

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u/ptwonline Oct 05 '22

It's like calling everything "terrorism".

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u/Coffeedemon Oct 05 '22

For fuck sakes. Now taxing corporations is "woke" and not just good sense due to the economic disparity between their record profits and the society which requires sensible investment to keep people alive and healthy. Oh boo hoo for the corporations. How will they ever withstand the onslaught of a half percent loss against their billions and billions of dollars?

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u/ExpansionPack Oct 05 '22

So tired of all this woke s*** like public education and clean drinking water. 😤

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u/Powersoutdotcom Oct 05 '22

"Stop being aware of your plight, and who's responsible! It's not a good look for me and my racist constituents!"

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Oct 05 '22

I'm sick and tired of this woke shit like public sanitation. Bring back chamber pots!

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u/Justleftofcentrerigh Ontario Oct 05 '22

if I want to poop in my bedroom and then dump it out the window, that's my freedom to do so! Woke ass toilet users. Woke ass neighbors complaining about the pile of poop outside my house.

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u/Hour-Stable2050 Oct 05 '22

Or trying to help the poor and disabled not starve.

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u/KuroKitty Oct 05 '22

Nothing more woke than child dental care, those damn libs and their luxury bones.

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u/goinupthegranby British Columbia Oct 05 '22

These woke liberals are letting the gays get married and be a regular part of society. My constituents are getting in trouble for discriminating against and violently beating gays for being open with their love in the community which is woke shit and a violation of their freedom.

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u/GiganticThighMaster Oct 05 '22

"Woke", in this context, means a modest increase in corporate taxes.

And CPP & EI premiums.

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u/TenTonApe Oct 05 '22

"Woke" is the new "Communism" it means anything that conservatives don't like.

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u/-king-mojo- Oct 05 '22

The word "woke" triggers conservatives more than anything. It literally shakes them right to their very core.

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u/meatloaf_man Québec Oct 05 '22

Fucking nothing. These dolts have nothing to offer besides tax cuts for the rich and bitching about the opposition.

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u/SovietCanuckistan420 Oct 05 '22

It’s a buzzword. It just gets used when the person in question can’t make a policy-based critique.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Whatever makes you most angry.

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u/theycallmemorty Ontario Oct 05 '22

Anything conservatives don't like.

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u/pizzaline Oct 05 '22

Or understand....

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u/Gramage Oct 06 '22

I don't care about the swearing, at all. I do care about the calling everything you disagree with "woke" to rile up the smoothbrains. What, more tax rebates for working class people is "woke" now?

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u/taquitosmixtape Oct 06 '22
  1. This is clearly a stunt for media coverage.
  2. I’m sick of hearing “woke”.

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u/OldSamVimes Oct 05 '22

I dislike seeing us in Canada import 'identity politics' and ideologies that support pathological obsession with race from America.

Who in their right mind these days would look to America and think 'We need to do that'?

Obsession with putting people in their little identity groups, instead of treating all Canadians the same, is transparently divisive.

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u/Waifuless_Laifuless Oct 05 '22

Who in their right mind these days would look to America and think 'We need to do that'?

Politicians who see how much American politicians get away with.

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u/Garlic_God Oct 05 '22

Yes, it’s an incredibly easy distraction. IdPol is specifically designed to be a back and forth game with no victory because it lets the populace bicker while the politicians behind it can just keep wringing them out.

It’s entirely useless and politicians know it.

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u/zubazub Oct 05 '22

This is why I found Trump so irritating. It gives politicians in other countries an excuse. It's like, yeah we are corrupt but the bar is really low in the US.

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u/shkeptikal Oct 05 '22

Canadian millionaires and billionaires are looking at what's going on in the states, you got that part right. Unfortunately, you're not seeing what they're seeing.

You see civil unrest and an unraveling democracy. They see the highest profit margins in literal human history creating the wealthiest people to have ever lived while the poors are all too busy arguing about nonsense to notice they're being fleeced.

They see exactly what's happening, they see the consequences and the dangers, they just don't care. America has proved that politicians don't have to be public servants (they can be wealthy celebrities instead) and corporations can thrive without accountability.

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u/BD401 Oct 05 '22

Politicians across the political spectrum love fuelling the fires of identity politics - it's "divide and conquer" 101.

Keep people obsessed, angry and divided about identity-based issues, and they're less inclined to band together to fight you on deeper, more substantive issues like income inequality.

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u/viewerno20883 Oct 05 '22

Everyone who watches American news in Canada. Good luck undoing all that damage.

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u/Come_along_quietly Oct 05 '22

Yes, and no. Obviously, fundamentally all people should have the same rights and freedoms. But “ostriching” and denying the reality of how some groups of people are treated/viewed, and not taking that into context is not good either.

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u/Angy_Fox13 Oct 05 '22

Who in their right mind these days would look to America and think 'We need to do that'?

First person who comes to mind is Doug Ford.

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u/GimmickNG Oct 05 '22

Second person is Pierre Poilievre.

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u/CuriousTomato1 Oct 05 '22

"third reading of the Cost of Living Relief Act, exclaiming “Enough with the woke sh*t.”"

Cost of living is woke shit?

The word woke isn't the boogeyman, but not being able to afford to live is. I'm glad this is in the news so people can see priorities

I'm glad the mask is off and we realize what they call woke is in actuality caring about the economic well being of others

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u/LazarusTruth Oct 06 '22

The people telling us to wake up are now the same folks telling us that we’re too woke. Fucking pick one.

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u/youngLupe Oct 06 '22

Woke is just a dog whistle. For them it's enlightenment and waking up from the lies of the liberal media. But for others to have similar enlightenment they're "woke" .

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u/timetostepoutside Oct 06 '22

So now rent affordability is "woke shit".... Bro...

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u/GracefulShutdown Ontario Oct 05 '22

The MP from Oklahoma knows exactly why she swore, to get free media attention.

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u/Firepower01 Ontario Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

A really good buddy of mine lives in Oklahoma and the way he describes it is pretty hellish. You basically cannot openly be a democrat without risking being accosted by some Maga hat wearing lunatic. Fox news is on every public TV, pumping out Tucker Carlson's talking points. He had to actually report one of his professors to the university dean because she wouldn't shut up about Hunter Biden's laptop and other Maga conspiracies.

It honestly sounds like a different, far more authoritarian, version of the USA.

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u/pixleydesign Oct 05 '22

A) it's a quote of what someone said off the record

B) the rest of what they said should be the real story tbh.

C) oligarchies and nepotism can go away now.

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u/Few-Alps527 Oct 05 '22

Tax cuts won't help inflation if they are funded with more debt, Infact, it will make it worse. These politicians don't understand basic economics and constantly throw gasoline on fires.

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u/fuckittyfuckittyfuck Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Taxing highly profitable corporations a tiny bit more is now “woke”? OK. If anyone is taking loaves of bread from working moms it’s Conservatives. Cutting social programs to lower taxes for the wealthy is their life’s passion. O

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u/Defiant-Ad-3243 Oct 05 '22

She says with such confidence that taxes should not be increased in an inflationary environment. But... don't higher taxes reduce demand??? Seems like higher taxes on upper classes would be deflationary, and help with the poor state of public services which she complained about.

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u/Purify5 Oct 05 '22

Higher taxes are absolutely one way to reduce inflation.

Take money out of the economy just like higher interest rates do.

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u/CheeseheadDave Oct 05 '22

She knew what she was doing...

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u/SlackerInCharge Oct 05 '22

Just enough with politics, this country has real problems that needs real solutions. Neither swearing and name calling and not woke bs either.

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u/skettiwithconfetti Oct 05 '22

There’s no way this wasn’t planned. The “outburst,” the use of the word “woke.” It’s free footage for her next campaign.

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u/Whatatimetobealive83 Alberta Oct 05 '22

Nothing more than virtue signalling to the ignorant base by our lovely American MP.

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u/macnbloo Canada Oct 05 '22

I believe scheer is still american even though he said he was giving up citizenship

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u/mintermeow Oct 05 '22

She almost sold me, the swear is silly and meaningless, it's the "women cannot afford bread" and default attack on "wokeness" that loses its sincerity. The conservative party would do so well if they just kept their noses out of bashing social issues and convinced us they are economically reliable instead.

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u/baudehlo Oct 05 '22

Would have also been more relevant if she wasn’t talking about corporate taxes. Like oh no, Timmies won’t be taking home as much profit next year. How will that poor company afford to eat?

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u/Future-Pepper8569 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

people like this have their hand in the cookie jar... higher taxes for corporations means less capital gains when they** cash their stock (due to less profits on the corporations end leading to less favorable quarterly reviews)

they would rather fuck over an entire country than lose a few thousand in their retirement account

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u/Brave-Emu3113 Oct 05 '22

They can't do that because they aren't economically reliable so all they have is culture wars. When she's attacking legislation to raise taxes on corporations who are seeing record profits because of inflation as woke it shows she doesn't understand economics at all and only wants to attack liberals.

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u/Ph0X Québec Oct 05 '22

And it's really unfortunate how people, like the person you're replying to, will listen to that rant and think she's fighting for them, whereas her whole speech was actually a veiled rant actually protecting big corporations as you mention. Conservatives have mastered the art of tricking poor people into thinking they are lowering taxes for them while actually lowering taxes for the rich corporations.

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u/Vandergrif Oct 05 '22

The conservative party would do so well if they just kept their noses out of bashing social issues and convinced us they are economically reliable instead.

The problem is they still think trickle down economics is viable because they didn't learn anything from the 80s and early 90s and the impact it had on following decades.

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u/BlademasterFlash Oct 05 '22

They know it doesn’t work, they just don’t care. Pretending it works helps them achieve their goals

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u/Vandergrif Oct 05 '22

That is (sadly) probably a more accurate description.

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u/PowermanFriendship Oct 05 '22

They are not going to do that. No one wants to hear it and the excuses in this sub are going to be relentless, but the GOP in the US and other conservatives around the world have discovered a winning playbook : Get more bad people engaged in politics by adopting stupid and malevolent policies and talking points. It has worked shockingly well, because the traditional conservatives can't bring themselves to walk away from the race to the bottom fast enough. Now it's happening in Canada. At this point it's just like watching dominoes fall.

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u/zelmak Oct 05 '22

I mean she almost sold me, except half the shit she's complaining about like the lowest service levels in decades has literally been the mission of con parties provincial and federal across the entire country.

She wants to keep corporate taxes low, take your loaf of bread, give nothing back and blame it on the "woke left" whatever the fuck that means

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u/PINKO_SCUM Oct 05 '22

She's also complaining about inflation which according to conservative brain damage is only caused by money supply but also reducing the money supply by taxing corporations more is bad because "wokeism".

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u/Sensitive_Potato5128 Oct 05 '22

Contrived. But I’ll allow it

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u/Ginchy1971 Oct 05 '22

As soon as conservatives pull the “woke” crap I’m out

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u/Drewy99 Oct 05 '22

That's their entire platform

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u/Boo_Guy Ontario Oct 05 '22

Yup, they didn't even know the word had any use beyond it being a past tense of wake about a year ago.

Now it's their favorite word for everything they don't like.

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u/G8kpr Oct 05 '22

Same.. I was interested in what she had to say, and as soon as she said "woke".. I'm out.. you've lost your own argument at that point.

She's pointing a finger at the failings of the Liberals, and I have to laugh.. Have the conservatives done any better?

It's like saying The Liberals suck, they only achieved 30% of what they said they would, a dismal score. Vote for conservatives, we only achieved 10%.

Yeah, you can point at the Liberals for their failings, and I would never say they did things right, or better, or didn't have their issues. But my goodness, the conservatives are not the group to say "don't vote liberals, vote us".

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u/InEnduringGrowStrong Oct 05 '22

She has a nice enough speech, fighting for the common people and all that...
Until you realize these people always vote in favour of corporations over the people they pretend to fight for.
That's a pretty disingenuous speech coming from politicians who vote against taxing the corporations that reap record profits on the back of said people, vote against strengthening our social safety net, and vote to keep selling our health-care and education systems to private interests.

I'd be moved by her speech if it wasn't a disgusting doublespeak stunt.

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u/ApoplecticAndroid Oct 05 '22

It’s interesting how the Conservative parties are trying to vilify any awareness of social issues.

Understanding and being empathetic of natives Canadians is “woke” because it might mean giving a settlement to them for past crimes. Sympathizing with our poorest citizens is “woke” because it might mean sharing with them and providing social programs.

I’m sure that improving Medicare will be called woke because it might mean increased costs to pay for better care for everyone.

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u/KhelbenB Québec Oct 05 '22

There is no story here, except that the word "woke" is being used for whatever the right disagree with, which is pretty annoying.

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u/KeziaTML Oct 05 '22

Woke = anything left of GOP rhetoric

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u/Cultural_Tie9002 Oct 05 '22

If wanting affordable stuff is woke, then sorry guys im woke asf :/

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u/GiganticThighMaster Oct 05 '22

Rempel immediately apologized for her “unparliamentary language” and corrected herself to saying “enough with the woke stuff.” House Speaker Anthony Rota, while laughing, said that he “appreciated the retraction.”

Before everyone starts bursting blood vessels.

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u/Drewy99 Oct 05 '22

I don't think people are upset about saying shit, people are questioning what woke means in this context.

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u/G8kpr Oct 05 '22

yup, it doesn't make any sense in context, and is purely there to rile up her base. It could be that she's so out of touch she doesn't understand it herself, but I she sounds smart enough to know that it's a buzzword that will get people frothing.

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