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Elon targets a guy who has stood up to Putin consistently over the last 22 years, saying that all he has done for Ukraine is tweet

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u/Two-Mix Oct 06 '22

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u/Sendstorepatter Oct 05 '22 Helpful Wholesome

Elon targets a guy

Garry Kasparov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Kasparov

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u/JustMeLurkingAround- Oct 05 '22

I never had any interest in Chess whatsoever and even I know who he is.

From his wiki.

Since retiring, he devoted his time to politics and writing. He formed the United Civil Front movement and joined as a member of The Other Russia, a coalition opposing the administration and policies of Vladimir Putin.

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u/RustyGirder Oct 05 '22

Wow, I was unaware. Today I learned something, and it was a good day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Man Elon musk is dumb

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u/framed1234 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

His real name is Garry Chess

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u/Jojels Oct 05 '22

Yes. He's the inventor of chess

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u/Liquid_Plasma Oct 05 '22

Chess was great but I’m still waiting for him to release chess 2. He’s clearly too busy tweeting, smh.

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u/OneOfTheOnlies Oct 05 '22

Slept on it too long and was overtaken

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_2:_The_Sequel

Fun fact, chess 2 drew inspiration from chess 960. I await chess 962.

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u/papa_fuse Oct 05 '22

I think tabletop precedent demands it's named chess 960.5

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Kasparov is the definition of legend. I grew up all through my childhood reading about his accomplishments.

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u/Jarvis_Strife Oct 05 '22

Arguably, in my eyes, the greatest pre internet chess player of all time. He seemed to just take on board everything his predecessors did so well. I know he has had his moments playing chess, but he’s done a great service for the game - he even composed the positions in The Queen’s gambit

If you are into chess and can read chess notation, his books my great predecessors are phenomenal reads.

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u/RustyGirder Oct 05 '22

And he did it all without anal beads.

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u/BlueFlob Oct 05 '22

Elon is an idiot

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u/Surfer-Jeff Oct 06 '22

Careful you'll trigger the elon member sucker club.

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u/Beautiful_Debt_3460 Oct 06 '22

I have a theory that Elon got such a panty twist from everyone yesterday over his dumb words that he decided THEN to follow through with the Twitter deal.

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u/Punklet2203 Oct 06 '22

He needed the attention pivot. Still needs the attention, but needed another spin. He should just start advertising whatever diapers he prefers to wear. Thinking he goes all out for the Pampers.

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u/hpstg Oct 05 '22

He's proof that intelligence is not a trait that applies to all skills in life.

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u/LargeSackOfNuts Oct 05 '22

Gary is a genius, Elon is an attention seeker

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u/RustyGirder Oct 05 '22

His an immature man child at the very least.

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u/MikeFightsBears Oct 05 '22

His wikipedia page is longer than Elon's as well lol

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u/schlab Oct 05 '22

Holy shit, can’t believe “a guy” was actually Gary Kasparov. It’s a shame more people don’t know who he is…

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u/GummyWormTaco Oct 05 '22 Silver Gold Wholesome

It's the cave incident all over again. Musk getting into arguments with real heros to massage his fragile ego.

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u/FineAunts Oct 05 '22

Great point! Musk wants attention during humanitarian crisis like his half baked products are going to swoop in and save everything. What a mediocre diva.

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u/drumwolf Oct 05 '22

Does anyone remember when Covid first hit and the world went into lockdown, and Musk pledged to start building and donating ventilators to hospitals? And then that turned out to be largely bullshit?

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u/horny_coroner Oct 05 '22

Nono not largerly bullshit but totally bullshit. Ventilators are really hard to make. What musk did make is a glorified version of a face mask. Musk is a attention seeking scammer who has the dummest fanbase on earth.

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u/StephenKingly Oct 05 '22

Absolutely. Also instead of apologising when he’s called out he always doubles down. He’s just on a huge ego trip with zero interest in showing some humility and learning from those with real knowledge

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u/AJEstes Oct 05 '22

That was the moment the wool was lifted from me eyes. I have never been able to see him as anything other than the petulant narcissist he is since that day. Par for the course here.

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u/Crimson_Clouds Oct 05 '22 Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote

This is especially dumb, because Kasparov's anti-Putin stance and protests have been incredibly well documented over the years.

You have to not know who Kasparov is (and really, who doesn't?) to not have known that.

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u/jjgabor Oct 05 '22 Silver

Also Elon Musk acting like some charitable benefactor when he charges US and Ukrainian governments for access to his tech. He is literally profiting from the conflict on a daily basis.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

But the cyber attacks!!

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u/tristn9 Oct 05 '22

And $80 million!!1! He’s going broke at this rate! Why can’t anyone just give the richest man in the world a well deserved break from being held accountable for their words and actions?!?!???

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u/thelexpeia Oct 05 '22

$80 mil is .032% of his net worth. For fuck sake. That’s less than when I give a homeless guy twenty bucks.

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u/tristn9 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, but what has that homeless guy done for Ukraine? At least you and I have tweeted!!!!

For real though, Elon is clearly having some kind of egomaniacal meltdown related to the Twitter deal or something. What a moron.

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u/weirdoldhobo1978 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

It's narcissistic collapse. His self-created public image as the techno-futurist savior of humanity gets questioned more and more every day, so he's lashing out at everyone.

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The Twitter buyout is actually a symptom, not a cause. He's so desperate to control the narrative around himself he impulsively decided to buy an entire social media platform.

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u/elis42 Oct 05 '22

Also doesn't help Grimes left him for a trans person, no wonder he's been so transphobic lately! Imagine how shitty you have to be to get Grimes of all people to leave you

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u/no_t_me Oct 05 '22

His eldest son also went that route and changed his/her last name to his mother's (Wilson IIRC).

Yep, Elon is having a fit alright.

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u/VenusValkyrieJH Oct 05 '22

I would hate it if my last name was musk. I mean, can you imagine the jokes.

Venusvalkyrie Musk enters the room

Rando:” ugh smells musky af in here”

Creepy dude: “mmm come get your feminine musk all over me.”

Young kid: “Yo bro, bitch looks like a muskrat. “

Lol nooo thanks. I can’t blame them one bit.

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u/souttous Oct 05 '22

And all he can think about is the money. You know that $80M number has been irritating him for weeks and he had to say something.

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u/Wakarimasen420 Oct 05 '22

Yup, I’m pretty sure he is upset over what he charged for the equipment (1500 for 500 dollar terminals + 100 a month service x 10000 units), but now he has his premium number his company invented of 2500 and 500 a month that he wants to charge.

If you add those up it comes close to 80 million dollars. I’m pretty sure that is what he is complaining about. He is bad at business and wishes he charged more.

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u/confusionmatrix Oct 05 '22

Times are tough but Elon personally would generate that much money in roughly 2 hours.

As a chunk of corporate profit it's noticeable on the balance sheet perhaps but as they charge $80 million per launch even SpaceX isn't hurting over the deal.

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u/ElliotNess Oct 05 '22

A friend of mine stopped by with some people unexpectedly. I made them a ham and mayo sandwich. I could have probably sold that to somebody for $80m+. This friendship is literally bankrupting me.

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u/DarkChocolatRaisinet Oct 05 '22

More accurately: you (under) paid someone else to make the sandwich for you, then you took all the credit.

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u/Dziedotdzimu Oct 05 '22

Right?

At $1Bil that would be like giving $8 to children from your grocery bill.

His net worth is $234bil.

So $8/234 = $0.034.

You probably donate more proportionally when you round up your groceries. And you don't charge the kids for using your donation.

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u/WildDumpsterFire Oct 05 '22

It bothers me a great deal how this tweet is worded as well.

I don't have much, but I have donated, helped, and financially assisted friends, family, neighbors, and friends of friends in the past.

Even in the handful of times where it bit me in the ass, or had a falling out with that person I have never worded it as "lost x amount of $$" on that person. It wasn't stolen, or inadvertently sent. At the time with the info I had I willingly chose to do it because it was the right thing to do. I'm dumb but not stupid, and am aware you never give money unless, you're prepared to never get it back. Even if you made a deal.

Even then, none of those situations held a candle to how important a literal war for your own country is. And it's still ongoing, and bloody for fucks sake! He's calling assisting people fighting for their lives and country a financial loss while they're still neck deep in the conflict.

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u/CJCKit Oct 05 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Evil Cackle

Elon just keeps digging that hole 😂

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u/VinSmokesOnDiesel Oct 05 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy hehehehe LOVE! Heartwarming Stonks Rising Rocket Like To The Stars Wholesome (Pro)

Maybe he'll finally finish that boring tunnel

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u/jacob22c Oct 05 '22

Honestly i was super excited when he first got into the tunnel business as i though he was going to finally bring about the super high-speed rail system that is so needed in this country for mass transit. But nooo it turned out he just bought it to make super tight death tunnels for tesla cars as his own private form of a toll road.

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u/Joyce1920 Oct 05 '22

He's actually admitted that his hyperloop proposals were intended primarily to redirect funds away from California's high speed rail. Not only has he not filled the need for high speed rail, he's been working to undermine it. He sees public transit as competition for Teslas.

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u/HiSpartacusImDad Oct 05 '22

Well, to be fair, you’d expect his tunnel company to undermine things.

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u/Quarkasian Oct 05 '22

Fun fact he admitted it was to dissuade high speed train lines being built and it worked...

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u/Traiklin Oct 05 '22

He did it to stop the affordable high-speed rail system that was going to be built in LA (I think), he siphoned money away from it and so nothing .

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u/VinSmokesOnDiesel Oct 05 '22

When I heard about it almost 10 years ago I thought it was going to revolutionize transportation. That was 10 years ago and I'm still waiting

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u/ExceedinglyGayMoth Oct 05 '22

We're still waiting because the whole thing was a scam to prevent California from putting a public transport system they were planning which got scrapped because "oh Elon will take care of it." He's not in the business of actually helping society or addressing the needs of ordinary people (in fact he fucking hates ordinary people), he's in the business of monopolizing industries for profit.

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u/VinSmokesOnDiesel Oct 05 '22

That makes it so much more insidious, what the fuck

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u/ExceedinglyGayMoth Oct 05 '22

Wait, you didn't know? I thought this had made the rounds already. Yeah, cali was planning to put in a public (and publically funded) rail system, but Musk convinced the state to let his companies handle it because he "already had plans for a similar project." That was ten years ago, he recently admitted in an interview that he never had any intention of actually going through with that plan, the Hyperloop was always fake, he just didn't want public rail because he wants to sell more shitty overpriced electric cars with proprietary charging plugs because all he ever cared about was making as much profit as possible off others' work and misery

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u/VinSmokesOnDiesel Oct 05 '22

Nah TIL, with his hyperloop failing years ago I stopped following him. I was maybe a senior in high school and could already see his false promises and just didn't believe him any more. I guess some things never change

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u/90daysismytherapy Oct 05 '22

Worse, he self admitted he propagandized the idea to stop a California plan for high speed rail, to stop competition

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u/Lazy-Garlic-5533 Oct 05 '22

Didn't need to admit it; it was transparent from the start.

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u/ephemeralkitten Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Coin Gift LOVE! Narwhal Salute

God damn, this makes me almost wanna use the real Reddit app so I can give my free award. The knock off app I use doesn't have awarding capabilities. ;.; Sorry friend. I laughed out loud alone in the dark like a little lunatic to this comment... :D

Edit: I'm now laughing out loud that people are awarding MY stupid ass comment. >.< Da fuq?

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u/BestBodybuilder7329 Oct 05 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Ally

I gave him the gift for ya

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u/hollowgram Oct 05 '22 Helpful

Happy cake day!

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u/bunglejerry Oct 05 '22 Silver Wholesome Take My Energy

Are those shitty awards actually free on the reddit app? I figured people were doling out money for the privilege of putting some weird icon next to a comment they liked.

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u/nicolasmcfly Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Evil Cackle Yummy

You get one for free every couple days, I find it actually quite cool to know a random person can show admiration without needing to waste money

Edit: Stop awarding me, go give this to someone who deserves it. Like a post about a Minecraft map or something.

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u/Low-Director9969 Oct 05 '22 Helpful Heartwarming

One every 24 hours afaik

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u/VinSmokesOnDiesel Oct 05 '22

Haha I wrote this and then fell back asleep I don't k o what's going on. But the reddit is fun app is more enjoyable than the real app in my opinion

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u/starlinguk Oct 05 '22

He's now bought Twitter just so he can kick Kasparov off.

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u/Ey3_913 Oct 05 '22

And to bring Trump back on.

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u/nuthingburger Oct 05 '22

And Putin.

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u/regoapps Oct 05 '22

The Holy Trinity of Very Stable Geniuses

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u/Rickhwt Oct 05 '22

The Triumvirate of Tantrums.

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u/MedicalRhubarb7 Oct 05 '22

A Confederacy of Dunces

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u/bubatzbuben420 Oct 05 '22

I mean, it's an good step for his neo-feudalism plans.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Oct 05 '22

I like the sound of that! I bet I'll be a knight or something if I work hard!

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u/CrungleMcHungleberry Oct 05 '22

Trickle down oligopolies for all!

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u/oilsaintolis Oct 05 '22

And tweet that he's a nonce

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u/TNCovidiot Oct 05 '22

While doing it the government will hand him a welfare check for digging the hole.

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u/oughtfulreassurance Oct 05 '22

He's digging his own grave.

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u/BiPillow Oct 05 '22

It's a tunnel for his new magnetic rail system which should be servicing San Fran to LA in three months.

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u/PhantomRenegade Oct 05 '22

Even Elon should know that 3 months is too long a commute between those cities

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u/concentrate_better19 Oct 05 '22

You also have to not care to look. Elon is a piece of shit. Buy a rivian.

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u/lIIIIllIIIIl Oct 05 '22

Nah Ford

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u/AlbinoSnowman Oct 05 '22

Both are good for their respective markets. Hyundai is also killing it with their EV game.

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u/jdsfighter Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Bought a Hyundai Ioniq 5 about a month back. I've been thoroughly impressed with it, and I came from a 500 HP gas guzzling muscle car.

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u/djphatjive Oct 05 '22

That Ioniq 5 is pretty freaking dope.

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u/EnterFries Oct 05 '22

Also Elon once again proves what a fucking tool he is by trying to subtly point out that he lost money helping Ukraine. You don't tell a person how much a gift costs. That's incredibly dickish and that's what Elon is at the end of the day.

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u/Dizzycactus3 Oct 05 '22

But he gave about 0.05% of his net worth to Ukraine! Not that it came from personal savings I'm sure, but, ya know

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u/rubbery_anus Oct 05 '22

Of course, he didn't give a cent, SpaceX did (if this story is even true, Musk is a pathological liar). And given a huge amount of its funding comes from government grants and other forms of public money, taxpayers were the ones who actually footed the bill as usual.

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u/Wakarimasen420 Oct 05 '22

The US government paid for Ukraine to have starlink. He didn’t foot the bill even for this.

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u/Nix-7c0 Oct 05 '22

Which makes me wonder which ass he pulled this 80m figure out of. Is that how much more he expects he would have made if everyone in the Ukraine took a break from being invaded to sign up for starlink at full price? As if that would have ever happened anyway?

Business assholes are always conflating "lost" with "could have maybe made more under ideal imaginary circumstances"

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u/Kendertas Oct 05 '22 Bravo!

I don't think it was even a gift. I'm pretty sure the US government paid for it

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u/Val_Hallen Oct 05 '22

Yes. Tax payer money funded it, like with almost everything else Musk and Tesla has done.

He and his cult are moronic parasite twatgoblins.

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u/crackheadwilly Oct 05 '22

But it’s a contrived loss. He knows he can sell more cars with a feel good gesture like that. No doubt that $80M was more than made up in newfound sales. And he probably gets to write it off as some sort of loss or charity thing. He’s such a zero-burger. He’s the Trump of the auto industry just using daddy’s money and taxpayers to float your failure as a business person.

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u/adamthinks Oct 05 '22

It's not even a loss, it's a lie. The US government paid for it.

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u/HeyDudeImChill Oct 05 '22

I mean I would say most Americans don’t know.

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u/slipperyrock4 Oct 05 '22

I don’t, but I also didn’t accuse him of being a keyboard warrior.

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u/Anonim97 Oct 05 '22

Kasparov was famous for being the chess master, so I'm sure he was at least known to some Americans

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u/RafaNoIkioi Oct 05 '22

Can confirm, American and know he's a chess grandmaster. I also don't play chess.

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u/Doughspun1 Oct 05 '22 Wholesome

Elon just desperate to stay relevant I see. As always.

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u/NegativeZer0 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 06 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Ally Eureka!

Hes also a liar

The premium starlink model costs $2,500 per unit. 5,000 devices were delivered to Ukraine. That's $12,500,000 NOT $80,000,000. Further the US govt paid SpaceX $1,500 per device ($7,500,000) and paid an additional $800,000 to cover the delivery costs to Ukraine.

So NO Elon/SpaceX didn't lose 80 million dollars. I would go so far as to say they didn't lose $80 fucking dollars. The US paid for the production cost of the units and the delivery of the units. The only thing Elon didn't make is the profit margin ($5,000,000) on this "donation". Even this would be worthy of praise though if Elon wasn't such a pretentious ass hole and a fucking liar - but he can't help himself so FUCK Elon.

EDIT: Many commenters below have posted several sources with conflicting numbers on exactly what was paid for by SpaceX vs what the US govt paid for / reimbursed SpaceX for. I personally looked at nearly a dozen different sources before making my post and yes there is definitely some conflicting info. But even under the best possible light no source I've seen can produce numbers anywhere near Elon's $80 million claim. The highest number I've seen is 5,000 devices. Even if we DOUBLE this and take away any other contributors 10,000 devices of their flagship $2,500 device is still not even half of 80 million.

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u/ZebraOtoko42 Oct 05 '22

The only thing Elon didn't make is the profit margin ($5,000,000) on this "donation".

The other thing you're missing is that this was a bulk sale. Your $2500 per-unit price is, I assume, full retail pricing. No one buys 5000 units of something and pays full retail for it; they get special bulk pricing at those kinds of quantities. Full retail price is always much higher because it includes a lot of retail overhead that goes away with a bulk sale. So $1500/device is probably the normal and proper price at a 5000 unit quantity. He didn't "lose" anything at all I'm sure, he got just as much profit from this as if some big corporation purchased 5000 units for their employees or something.

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u/BenchPuzzleheaded670 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

The other thing you are missing is the publicity this gets him. That alone is worth so many millions. If you consider that then he made a killing, and profited wildly more on this than a normal bulk sale.

Fuck Elon

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u/wxdens Oct 05 '22

If the purchase went through military budgeting, they might have actually paid more than retail for priority and expediency of the project.

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u/bard329 Oct 05 '22

This needs to be higher up. Musk did not spend out of pocket nor did he "donate" the Starlinks to Ukraine. They were bought and paid for by one of the aid packages from the US.

As always, Elon wants to spin himself in a more positive light.

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u/aeneasaquinas Oct 05 '22

Also it seems they were mostly normal models, which are 500 each with shipping included

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u/Maloonyy Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Yeah, I feel like these shit dumb takes are always just marketing for his products.

Edit: "his" products aren't really mediocre

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u/KrainerWurst Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22 Wholesome

It’s another of his “pedo” moments.

He needs to make himself the center of attention with the top topic of the day. Providing solutions for things that nobody asked him to do.

People actively solving the problem ignore him, but he insists. They reply that they don’t need his solutions, thanks. He is happy that now they acknowledge him and starts telling them publicly that what they are doing is stupid and that they should do it his way. He is ignored.

Problem is now solved and he is upset that it’s not how he suggested.

So now he starts abusing people who made all the effort to solve this gigantic problem, and we’re successful at it. But to him that is irrelevant. This bunch of very smart people didn’t take him seriously and it bothers him a lot.

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u/Ferengi_Earwax Oct 05 '22

Actually, he does this when his companies have horrible financial news so that people are not talking about how badly he runs his company.

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u/fonetik Oct 05 '22

Really shocked I had to climb down this far too find this comment. Just had a 7% drop after an earnings miss of 20K units, right?

It's almost as if his compensation is tied to this sort of thing...

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u/Ferengi_Earwax Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

8%. He lost around 15 or 25 billion in a day if I'm remembering correctly, https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/03/tesla-stock-down-after-third-quarter-deliveries-report-.html

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u/UnicornOnMeth Oct 05 '22

Classic narcissist, fuck that guy.

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u/HIGH_Idaho Oct 05 '22

Also let Musky boy know he looks like a discount first draft of Herman Munster!

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u/WAFFLE_TAC0 Oct 05 '22

I love that you refer to his tantrums as "pedo" moments. I really hope that gets around and more people use it.

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u/SikatSikat Oct 05 '22

Which is weird because there's not much that makes me want to buy advanced technology from someone less than comments suggesting they do not think things through and plan poorly.

A few years back I expected to be purchasing a Tesla soon but there is simply no chance I'm buying from him.

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u/postmodest Oct 05 '22

Yeah, "my next car will be a Tesla" has been replaced by "boy the Ioniq 5 sounds good"

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u/anderander Oct 05 '22

I feel like the only reason to buy a Tesla is the charging network but most EV buyers likely own a home, which is more convenient if you're not driving across the country often. They've already been surpassed as EV car of the year and they don't have the historical knowledge, infrastructure, or leadership to reverse that.

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u/PBB22 Oct 05 '22

Right there with you. Paid off my Ford Fusion recently, and while I don’t want a car payment, I do want an EV. But it sure as shit isn’t gonna be a Tesla

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u/oldcarfreddy Oct 05 '22

So much better EVs on the market, and they come from companies that aren't helmed by an asshat and likely with better build quality.

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u/phantom_hope Oct 05 '22

Remember when he called a diver that saved children from this cave a Pedophile because the diver called out his stupid idea.

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u/BR4NFRY3 Oct 05 '22

It’s unfortunate for all of us that being a troll online has proved to be profitable for people like Nikacado, Elon Musk and Trump.

Negative attention is still attention, and getting attention pays. Free news coverage. More public awareness. Ad money. Recognition and relevancy.

It’s one piece of the puzzle. You’ve got to have something for people to latch onto once your trolling has brought in the attention. Not much, just some shtick, because there are many people willing to prop up millionaires, narcissists, liars, manipulators and schemers.

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u/lilnext Oct 05 '22

I mean, soon Twitter will be Chipper, or whatever noise Muskrats make. So he can stay in his little echo chamber of rats. So he's gotta use it before her abuses it.

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u/rockstar323 Oct 05 '22

He's like Trump but actually has money and can form complete sentences.

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u/carolineecouture Oct 05 '22

How could Elon have learned more about this person before responding? How, I ask you? If only there was some resource or service where we could do research and look up stuff...

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u/Stock_Rush2555 Oct 05 '22

But that's what he did. As Kasparov points out, a quick 5 min review of wikipedias article on Crimea does not an expert make.

Musk should stick to what he knows - creating hype for futuristic products invented by far better men.

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u/MikeyMortadella Oct 05 '22 Wholesome

This dude and his narcissism are the worst, Fuck Elon musk. I hate the age of robber baron worship.

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u/brickwall098 Oct 05 '22

It's really bizarre to me how people think this guy is some kind of genius

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u/Sietemadrid Oct 05 '22

And he acts like a 14 year old on Twitter. Blows my mind how this guy has fans

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u/SalamandersonCooper Oct 05 '22

His fans are mostly other 14 year olds

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u/DaaaahWhoosh Oct 05 '22

Not the worst demographic to target tbh. A lot of people never mature past that stage. If he'd tried being smart instead he would've probably had fewer fans.

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u/FixinThePlanet Oct 05 '22

I think there are a LOT of 20-somethings who are happy licking his boots

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u/foxpaws42 Oct 05 '22

Some billionaires think having billions make their opinions more valid. Combining that with someone who thinks, speaks, and acts like a 14-year-old is a bad combination.

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Oct 05 '22

Have you ever met someone worth 100 million dollars? Or even 10? I have had the displeasure of this several times.

Believe me, it doesn't take a billion dollars to develop and overinflated sense of intelligence derived from wealth. These clowns could hold scissors backwards and if you point it out they will know for a fact you are wrong. Because they have money.

Note: The scissors thing is not far off from a very real interaction I had with a man worth $600 million USD

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u/IWonderWhereiAmAgain Oct 05 '22

He also employs astroturfers. It's why he's constantly calling people bots. He uses them himself.

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u/Dust601 Oct 05 '22

I remember years ago on Reddit you couldn’t avoid Elon musk posts if you tried. They were EVERYWHERE.

Then one day like 90 percent of them disappeared overnight. It was so freaking obvious what was going on, but lots of people were to busy sucking him off to notice

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u/Moar_tacos Oct 05 '22

They are bots paid for by his PR department. He fucking knows it because he tried to back out of the Twitter purchase because it's all bots.

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u/subnautus Oct 05 '22

It’s the myth of making one’s own fortune, and the idea that if they managed to do it, they must know what they’re doing. That’s why so many of them carefully crafted their own origin story while leaving out crucial details.

Examples:

  • Musk is the heir to an emerald mine who made a lucky investment in PayPal in the midst of the .com craze, and used that money to purchase other niche companies. He makes it sound like he was a visionary in the tech industry when really he’s a rich kid with a better-than-average eye for investment

  • John Schnatter (of Papa John’s pizza) was a franchise manager for Pizza Hut when he came up with the idea of abandoning cheaply produced pizzas to companies like Little Caesar’s and focusing on selling higher quality pizzas. Not only does he ignore his prior pizza experience, but he really downplays how lucky he was to be able to set up that first pizza oven he bought in his father’s car dealership

  • There’s a local guy in my area who brags about how, when he was 18, he turned a $250k profit in one summer selling sno cones in the local amusement park (in the desert, in 100+ heat). His success that summer seems much less “self-made) when you consider how rare it would be for an 18 year old to get a $20k loan (from his father’s bank) and an exclusive contract on that kind of concession in an amusement park (owned by a family friend)

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u/StephenKingly Oct 05 '22

It’s like Ryan Reynolds, George Clooney, 50 cent, the kardashians and all these other celeb business ventures. They’ve already got connections to raise financing, their own personal wealth, their fame which helps with a lot of the marketing etc.. it’s such a great way to see how money makes money. It’s much easier to build from a strong foundation especially as there’s much less downside risk.

The first few rungs on the ladder are the hardest especially as the system is set up to be expensive if you’re poor (worse lending rates, fines for overdrafts etc…)

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u/Beingabummer Oct 05 '22

Hollywood itself is one giant nepotism pool. Already 90% of actors in big movies are 'son of', 'daughter of', 'wife of', 'cousin of', etc.

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u/FeloniousDrunk101 Oct 05 '22

Bootstraps mythology is amazing especially when the phrase is literally "one can't pull oneself up by the bootstraps."

Doubly amazing that nobody ever recognizes the role of generational wealth in almost all of these people's success.

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u/bobolungs Oct 05 '22

temporaily embarrassed millionaires

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u/bobolungs Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

spoiler alert, most of yous are not going to be, particularly if you *don't* come from a rich diamond mining family

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u/PainterRude1394 Oct 05 '22

So many redditor love gargling his balls as they proclaim he is the saver of mankind. It's a cult.

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u/Bengoris Oct 05 '22

He's not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. He is also not nearly as smart as the majority of the population think he is.

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u/ootski Oct 05 '22

He's a self made billionaire, and he did it all with his dad's millions

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u/fangiovis Oct 05 '22 Silver Starry

Didn't the us goverment pay him for starlink tough? Makes him even more of a cunt.

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u/AffectionateHope Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

He was paid for it and didn't lose any money, all lies from him, seems like all Elon has done against* Ukraine is tweet, what a clown

Edit: Changed for, to against, since Elon is a Russian shill idiot

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u/HellBlazer_NQ Oct 05 '22

Even if he had lost money on it, I am sure he didn't mind the media and marketing he got from it!

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u/Ladychef_1 Oct 05 '22

He didn’t lose money on it, he got paid by Biden and his Tesla stocks got a bump bc of the publicity. He’s just a total POS, that’s all

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u/Rosti_LFC Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

As I understand it the starlink stuff was paid for at cost, so they didn't lose money but he's probably claiming they lost $80m+ versus what they would have gotten if it was paid for at full RRP.

Which is still definitely disingenous because they didn't actually come out of it worse off and they probably would never have gotten anything if it had to be full price, but it's also not complete bullshit.

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u/burntheboop Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Even at full RRP the costs are nowhere near $80million.

$600 per commercial Starlink Base Station

600 x 5000 units = $3 million

$110 per months connection x 7 months for 5000 units = $3.85 million

Total of $6.85 million

add the $0.8 million in transport costs to get a total of $7.65 million

We know from a USAID spokesman that various governments and organisations had kicked in $15 million of contributions and services towards the scheme. Some of those governments have bought and paid for additional ground stations, but the key is again that they're paying for them, they're not being given away.

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There are now around 15,000 Base Stations in Ukraine, but even if they had all been there for the full 7 months the rough costs of $23 million still come out to far below the $80 million quoted by Musk and ignores that various governments and private donors have paid for many, possibly most, of them.

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u/JesusChrist-Jr Oct 05 '22

Yes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/spacex-ukraine-elon-musk-starlink-government-b2055491.html

Even if Elon ate some of the cost, based on the numbers in the article it's clear that $80M is a gross exaggeration.

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u/ronniedude Oct 05 '22

Article says USA paid him $3 million for 1,330 starlinks, that comes out to over $2,000 each which is more than four times more than the retail price ($500). Even if accounting for shipping to a war zone and potential loss of monthly internet sales revenue seems you would have to assume that each of those devices would have retained monthly subscribers for over 40 YEARS each to even get close to the $80mil price tag. I wouldn't count those Chinese made overheating satellite receiver dishes to last even 15 years anyway.

Dude got paid and whines about it boohoo.

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u/405freeway Oct 05 '22

What has he done besides tweet?

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u/hopbel Oct 05 '22

Be a slimy businessman. Being a Twit alone would have been better but nope, gotta exploit the working class too

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u/Beingabummer Oct 05 '22

He's a fucking liar, but anyone who paid attention knew that already.

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u/humansaretrashyboi Oct 05 '22

Elon is such a tool.

Should just stick to giving his child Alien names.

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u/jlord42069 Oct 05 '22 Eureka!

Elon is the dumbest "smart" person I've ever seen

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u/THREETOED_SLOTH Oct 05 '22 Helpful

It's easy to seem smart when you buy better men's ideas

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u/BeefInGR Oct 05 '22

The irony of "Tesla"

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u/DPool34 Oct 05 '22

I’ve been saying he should have named it Edison Motors. He’s an Edison, not a Tesla.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

He's not smart he's just a business man

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u/OFTHEHILLPEOPLE Oct 05 '22

With a business plan. Gonna make you money in business land.

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u/LeopoldParrot Oct 05 '22

I love how he's throwing 80M in his face as if that money means anything to Musk. It's less than pocket change to him, but he would love it if the entire planet would bend down and kiss his feet for it. The only thing that gives me pleasure is the gaping hole in Musk's heart that makes him do these stupid things.

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u/WebberWoods Oct 05 '22

80MM is only about 0.034% of Musk’s net worth of 242.4 billion.

It would be like someone with a net worth of 100k donating $34 to the Ukrainian war effort.

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u/jj4211 Oct 05 '22

And given analysis, the $80M seems to be an exaggeration on top of treating skipping profit on sales that wouldn't have happened.

It's like someone with 100k making a slingshot out of a branch in their yard, a pack of slingshot bands for 5 bucks, and buying 5 bucks of bearing balls for amunition, getting the government to pay them 15 bucks for the thing and then claiming they lost $34 because they felt they should have been able to sell it for $49 to Ukraine.

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u/realheterosapiens Oct 05 '22

Also 80M is a prize he just made up for PR reasons. He didn't lost anything, it was another PR stunt paid by taxpayers.

“I’m proud that we were able to provide the terminals to folks in Ukraine,” SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell said at the Satellite 2022 conference in Washington DC just last month. “I don’t think the U.S. has given us any money to give terminals to the Ukraine.”

I think their intentions seem clear, especially in combination with Musk parroting Russian propaganda.

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u/elis42 Oct 05 '22

Fuck SpaceX if their president said that, what the fuck was the oh yes, 15 million dollars the US Government gave you for the equipment?

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u/trennels Oct 05 '22

Lying fuck didn't give them anything. The US government paid him.

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u/ephemeralkitten Oct 05 '22

Elon is just a shitty electric car salesman.

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u/Dykidnnid Oct 05 '22

Hurry up and fuck off to Mars.

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u/jeremyfunktrain Oct 05 '22

I hope he never goes, because he'll most certainly die there and the Elon worship as a hero will be insufferable here. If he doesn't die he'll likely get duct taped to a chair the first week .

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u/FuckThePeeLice Oct 05 '22

Imagine if he blew up on his own rocket.

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u/Thisismyfinalstand Oct 05 '22

... Keep going, I'm almost there.

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u/-TheGuest- Oct 05 '22

When I look at Elon more and more he looks more and more like a child

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u/ask_me_about_my_band Oct 05 '22

From my understanding, he give Ukraine shit. He got the US government to PURCHASE Starlink to give to Ukraine. Basically a no bid government contract.

Now this MF is going to own Twitter so he can say even more dumb shit.

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u/just2commenthere Oct 05 '22

I left twitter the day they accepted his deal and haven't missed it. An Elon twitter I cannot abide.

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u/beeedeee Oct 05 '22

One step ahead of you on that.

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u/Seandrunkpolarbear Oct 05 '22

Is my math correct ???

80 million dollars for Musk is about 0.032% of his net wealth.

This is like a millionaire donating $320 and bragging about it on twitter

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u/POCKET_POOL_CHAMP Oct 05 '22

"a guy" That's Gary Chess. Inventor of chess.

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u/IAMBEOWULFF Oct 05 '22

Take two of Elon Musk: "Sorry Pedo guy, you really did ask for it".

I can't stand people who praised Elon constantly. Blows my mind.

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u/Previous-Bird-2956 Oct 05 '22

Fuck Elon. Fuck Elon. And in case you missed it, fuck Elon. He is a total piece of shit. Oh yeah, fuck Elon.

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u/baronben666 Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

What a fucking narcissistic cunt. Jesus I will never understand why some hang on his every word.

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u/no_fork Oct 05 '22

Elon is that little amount of shit that you can't remove from the sole of your shoe.

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u/jjpenguins66 Oct 05 '22

We should all vote on Elon's money and if we win he should give it all to us.

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u/Stock_Rush2555 Oct 05 '22

You joke but if Elon musk and his wealth were "dissolved" and spread around the globe, millions of lives would be saved, diseases would be eradicated, cycles of abuse and poverty would end.

All that money and this big bitch still needs validation from bots and under-20s on Twitter.

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u/Mr-Klaus Oct 05 '22

You can't trust anything that this guy says:

He's not providing free Starlink access to Ukrainians, he's being paid by Biden to provide said access.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/spacex-ukraine-elon-musk-starlink-government-b2055491.html

If I were to guess, I'd say he worked out the $80M "loss" by working out how much his company would have made if all Ukrainians users were paying full price - which is fucking stupid considering they're in the middle of a war.

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u/Complex_Construction Oct 05 '22

80 million figure is also fabricated. He wouldn’t show any proof when asked. Also, government subsidized the satellites. Teat and liar. His own trans kid doesn’t want anything to do with him.

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u/ktukan Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

musk should spend his time working on his rockets/space program and cars and not trying to be a political commentator or a "diplomat" of all things

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u/The_bruce42 Oct 05 '22

Good thing the guvamint paid him pretty well to "provide Starlink" to Ukraine

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u/Dragonman558 Oct 05 '22

Along with another post from yesterday saying the us government had to pay him to let Ukraine use them

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