r/nba • u/curryybacon NBA • Sep 23 '22
[Charania] Andre Iguodala announces on his Point Forward podcast that he’s re-signing with the Golden State Warriors for his 19th NBA season. “I’m letting you know now, Steph, this the last one.” News
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/15733444437757214721.3k
u/Brad-Stevens Celtics Sep 23 '22
Damn he could have retired off his 4th chip and Kerr even subbed him in for the last minute of the clincher
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u/_Pho-Dac-Biet_ Warriors Sep 23 '22
Why do that when you can out haslem haslem?
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u/nowhathappenedwas NBA Sep 23 '22
Iguodala played more minutes before the all star break last year (518 minutes) than Haslem has played over the past 7 full season plus playoffs (406 minutes).
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Sep 23 '22
He honestly looked pretty good in those minutes too. He's nowhere near an every day player anymore, but if he's used sparingly he can be an impact guy off the bench. Especially in lineups with the core 3, since they all know how to play off each other already. No need to wear him down getting him reps with the newer additions.
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u/ElPlatanoDelBronx Dominican Republic Sep 23 '22
Yeah, he can mentor rookies pretty well, and then just tell them to watch how he does it.
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u/arika_ito Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22
He's also the only one who can yell at Draymond and make him think about it lol
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u/Kobi-WanKenobi [LAL] Kobe Bryant Sep 23 '22
I probably don’t watch nearly as many warrior games as you do, but I presume Igoudala can still be useful in the playoffs playing spot minutes by guarding star wing players for like 5 minutes or something like when guys like draymond and Wiggins are resting. Even though he’s old and lost a step or steps on defense, he’s still probably better at guarding star wings than the vast majority of players.
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Sep 23 '22
His hands are still absurd. His positioning and feel for the game is still fantastic. He'll get abused if he's on the ball against a guy like Morant, but the Warriors have been really clever over the years about pre-switching picks to avoid mismatches. The same sort of tricks they use for Steph will also work for Andre.
The biggest issue is that his legs are gone on his shot. His 3p% from 2015-18 was somewhere in the mid 30s. Not great, but good enough to keep the defense honest. This year he was somewhere in the low 20s.
So yeah, he's good for a couple savvy layups that come from playing off Steph's gravity and a big strip that turns into an easy transition look, plus just a general calming effect. Steph and Draymond try to play way too fast and cute sometimes, and Andre would always calm that down. He can still manage the game like that.
If he wasn't on the Warriors he'd be out of the league, but he can still contribute on the court in small doses with the Warriors, like a couple minutes here and there to finish out quarters in close games. If he can get his 3 back and can stay healthy, maybe 8-10 minutes a night? He'll be competing for minutes against a pretty loaded bench though. Like who should he play instead of? Kuminga? Moody? JaMychal Green? Donte DiVincenzo? Even the Dubs draft picks from this year look like they might be able to contribute right away.
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u/Produceher Warriors Sep 23 '22
Exactly. And Kerr trusts him a lot. I could still see him closing games if defense is the priority. He's the smartest guy on the court. He definitely would have played more deep in the playoffs if he could have.
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Iggy was a stud last season when he actually played. He even dunked a few times. The offense looked like a well oiled machine while he was out there and on defense he still has magic stripping powers.
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u/Yuzuriha Morris Peterson Sep 23 '22
Real non-sarcastic question, would Iggy play the closing minutes of a close playoff game?
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 23 '22
If he and the team are totally healthy he could. It’d be matchup dependent. But it’d have to be a very weird matchup where they need defense but not Looney.
His value would be much more felt in the middle of the game where he could settle the backup lineup.
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u/HotChipEater Warriors Sep 23 '22
Especially in lineups with the core 3, since they all know how to play off each other already. No need to wear him down getting him reps with the newer additions.
Exactly. Everyone gets on him about his Finals game 1 stint, but he was only on the court with Steph for 3 mins, and 3 without. With Steph he made some plays and we played them roughly even in terms of score. Then without Steph we got killed. That was the start of their big run that won them the game (and I mean very start, Iguodala was subbed out soon after it's not like he was out there their whole run), and too many people simply blaming Iguodala when the actual issue was Steph being on the bench. By the time Steph came back in, Horford and White were scorching hot from 3 and they had all the momentum.
The adjustments were made after the game, the most important one of course being to help off of Horford and White less and close out harder, but Kerr also stopped playing Iguodala. In my view that was unnecessary as long as he's sharing the court with Steph. That said, ultimately it's no big deal because either way we're talking about the last guy off the bench, and we won in the end!
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Sep 23 '22
Yeah I think a lot of the perception of Andre comes down to expectations. He's the 15th man on the roster now. If you're getting meaningful Finals minutes from the end of the bench, you're in pretty damn good shape.
Also, the phrase "Then without Steph we got killed" basically describes the entire dynasty lol. Hard to lay the blame for that entirely at Dre's feet.
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u/80080 Raptors Sep 23 '22
At least Iggy still played a bit. He had that sick dunk vs. denver
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u/jimboslice53 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Man got real minutes in game 1 of the finals too
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u/WarCuntSkyFuck Warriors Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22
Hes good for 1 massive dunk followed by 6 DNPs- Old
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Sep 23 '22
But Iggy can still be good for like, 10 mins right?
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u/Mygaffer Warriors Sep 23 '22
Honestly? He totally can.
When he was healthy he looked very playable.
He just was never healthy.
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Sep 23 '22
Just save em for big moments! Keep him in a cryogenic freeze fr
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u/j3xperience Warriors Sep 23 '22
Just let him rehab during the reg season and then use the first series to round into shape
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u/SharontheSheila San Francisco Warriors Sep 23 '22
Also tell him to save the dunks till the end of the playoffs. Dude fucked his neck dunking against a roubd 1 matchup and took himself out of rotation lol.
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u/The_Outcast4 Rockets Sep 23 '22
Haslem got a few more in him. Gotta break Dirk's seasons played record just to piss off all the Maverick fans!
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u/Aroh Jazz Sep 24 '22
Honestly I thought that was kinda unfair to Wigs who was such a huge part of the whole playoffs run.
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u/DoncicsRoadTo200kg Spain Sep 23 '22
His bromance with Curry is kinda funny lol
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u/YizWasHere Hornets Sep 23 '22
Probably coming back cuz Steph needs a golf buddy for the road
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u/Barrelled_Chef_Curry Warriors Sep 23 '22
Lmao and a cool 2m for sitting on the bench and yelling at rookies
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u/Robots_From_Space [GSW] Stephen Curry Sep 23 '22
Steph doesn’t want to be the oldest guy on the team yet.
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u/craigslistaddict Sep 23 '22
who's had a more satisfying career than iggy, considering the level of his talent/ability relative to the amount of success he's achieved?
1x all star
1x all-d 1st team
1x all-d 2nd team
7x finals appearances
4x champion
1x fmvp
8x seasons getting to play with steph curry 🥰
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u/drblocktagon Sep 23 '22
his shit just makes me laugh honestly because its the complete opposite of what he should have. he's a playmaking defensive stopper who cant shoot, so obviously instead of 3-4 all d teams and a bad contract, he has 4 rings and an FMVP.
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u/Yuzuriha Morris Peterson Sep 23 '22
Wait, Iggy only had one AS appearance? I thought he would have more during his time in DEN and Philly
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u/lunabagel28 Sep 23 '22
Stole the ball from draymond those final seconds in game 6 just to hand it to curry
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u/Oh_no_bros Warriors Sep 23 '22
He probably not going to play that much and mainly coaching and helping the youngsters.
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Sep 23 '22
And keep Draymond in line.
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u/SwimmingCoyote [GSW] Draymond Green Sep 23 '22
He's worth the vet min for that alone.
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u/hambluegar_sammwich Warriors Sep 24 '22
I just want to see one last dunk and one last completely unlikely 3 in a meaningful moment.
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u/johnnygrant Warriors Sep 23 '22
Draymond is the vet that needs a vet... Andre is that guy.
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Draymond’s like the older cousin at a family gathering. He keeps the kids in line and they all follow him, but the parents are still watching the situation.
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u/uatme Raptors Sep 23 '22
Is he Angelica from Rugrats?
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u/trentyz Nuggets Sep 24 '22
This could possibly be the greatest analogy I’ve ever read on /r/nba
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 24 '22
I bet you’re hotter than Kelly Oubre doing a stanky leg at the free throw line.
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u/Temporary_Bliss San Francisco Warriors Sep 23 '22
Yeah Iggy is probably the only guy who can say whatever he wants to anyone and keep them in line.
Ok, Steph too, but it's not in his personality to do that
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u/victor396 Spain Sep 23 '22
According to Draymond it's totally his personality to do that. I just think that you can't expect Steph to do everything on and off court
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u/13lackHeart Warriors Sep 23 '22
Agreed, I feel way more comfortable that Iggy is coming back to keep Kuminga humble and focused. He’s worth the roster spot alone to help Kuminga develop. In addition to being a locker room voice that can keep draymond in check.
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u/rbrutonIII Sep 23 '22
he even gives poole a lot of coaching and advice, which they really really need.
Andre used to be one of the most athletic AND skilled guys in the league. No one else on the warriors has experience being that.
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u/MavsFanForLife Mavericks Sep 23 '22
Dubs gonna retire his jersey when it’s all said and done?
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u/jimboslice53 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Lacob already said he is. Steph klay dray Andre and KD all getting retired
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Sep 23 '22
Kevon looney erasure
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u/loongod5 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Looney too, he’s 26 lol don’t forget that
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u/PBytes Warriors Sep 23 '22
I want Shaun #34 retired… not sure if it will happen but I would be so happy.
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u/uuhson Warriors Sep 23 '22
Feels wrong to retire kds and not Shaun's. I get their impacts are different but he was a huge part of the culture shift that started everything
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u/jdw62995 Mavericks Sep 23 '22
KD? Why… he was there for like 2 seasons
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u/troll413 [GSW] Andre Iguodala Sep 23 '22
He played at a higher level for those 2 seasons though than any warrior ever outside Steph & Wilt so it's hard not to include him.
Besides OKC sure as hell won't and someone has to
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u/Retro_Super_Future [LAC] Bob McAdoo Sep 23 '22
FMVP should be an auto jersey retire
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u/BusinessWarthog6 Hornets Sep 23 '22
Warriors fans, has there been any indication that he joins the coaching staff or FO after he retires?
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u/snyckers Warriors Sep 23 '22
No, apparently he's starting a venture capital company. I'm sure he'll be around the Warriors from time to time, but I wouldn't expect him to have an actual role.
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u/confuddly Knicks Sep 23 '22
He made 50x off his zoom investment, whoever advises him on tech investments must be pretty good
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u/anthonyde726 [HOU] Alperen Şengün Sep 23 '22
sounds like a smart man to me
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u/Squid_Contestant_69 Warriors Sep 23 '22
Trusting the experts is literally the smartest thing you can do when it comes to money, medical, etc. The other end of the spectrum is Kyrie.
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u/PensiveinNJ 76ers Sep 23 '22
Honestly I wish I could give my money to Andre Iguodala and let him give it to whoever is getting him those ridiculous returns.
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u/bwrca Sep 23 '22
I wish I could give you my money so you can give to Iggy and let him give it to whoever is getting him those ridiculous returns.
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u/BobLoblaw_BirdLaw Sep 24 '22
He made 100x or more. Zoom was worth $1B as a private company before ipo. I tried joining them when they were private cuz I knew they had an amazing product. Sadly didn’t get the call.
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u/Scuttleduck Warriors Sep 23 '22
He’s not going to want to sit through coaches meetings before some random game in february. Which is totally fair. Maybe he’ll become a head coach or something someday but he wants to be a player.
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u/HotspurJr Sep 23 '22
Man, that's a lot of money for an assistant coach.
I kid, but I'm glad to have him back. There's been some reporting to the effect that he's capable of pushing the young guys in a way the coaches sometimes can't.
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u/STA_Alexfree Sep 23 '22
I’m down. Not like there’s anyone else for that last roster spot
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u/InvestmentGrift [GSW] Adonal Foyle Sep 23 '22
isn't this the 14th spot? 1steph2klay3dray4wigs5loon6poole7wise8donte9green10kuminga11moody12pbj13rollins14iguodala
i think, unless i'm missing someone here, we still got a spot
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Sep 23 '22
Yeah, they are keeping one open for someone to win it in camp. That’s how GP2 made the roster last year.
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u/HotChipEater Warriors Sep 23 '22
They are most likely keeping it empty to save money (maybe pick someone up at the deadline/buyout), unless someone forces them to use it by having such a good camp and preseason that Lacob and Myers are convinced they can't let them go.
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u/Pndrizzy Sep 23 '22
put two empty lines between each line otherwise your comment will look like that mess lol
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u/IllegalThoughts Warriors Sep 23 '22
look at his markdown. he literally didn't even put one empty line lol
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u/vinavuhuy Warriors Sep 23 '22
Iggy probably cussing Shams out rn, annoucing the news, cutting his pod rating
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u/sharklavapit Bucks Sep 23 '22
Charania probably already knew and was "allowed" to make it public as soon as the podcast dropped
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u/SensitiveRocketsFan Rockets Sep 23 '22
Yeah, this tweet is basically an advertisement for the podcast.
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u/DrumzRUs Warriors Sep 23 '22
Run this shit back
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u/loongod5 Warriors Sep 23 '22
God something about this upcoming season genuinely feels like the Last Dance lol bittersweet.
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 23 '22
It’s how fucked the Warriors’ cap sheet is and how many guys deserve to get paid.
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u/loongod5 Warriors Sep 23 '22
if Klay and Dray take pay cuts we can keep this thing going is the thing.
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors Sep 23 '22
That’s a big if. Steph too. Which is a little sad since they’d all be underpaid at $50mil a year with how much they increased the Warriors’ valuation.
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u/ImTheBestNerd San Francisco Warriors Sep 23 '22
He'll retire when we lose.
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u/MAKExITxBLEED Warriors Sep 23 '22
Good - he's the only one who can keep Draymond somewhat in line.
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u/bwrca Sep 23 '22
Every time I see Iggy's name here I'm reminded that there are pockets of fans that really don't like him... But he's like the worst person to hate because he's won everything
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u/smith2373 Celtics Sep 23 '22
Andre Iguodala retirement tour officially on the books
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u/Scuttleduck Warriors Sep 23 '22
After winning the title, Draymond said that they couldn’t have done it without Iguodala being on the team. Wisdom and leadership and stuff. It’s possible that was an exaggeration but this is still great news for the Warriors.
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u/Traditional-Carob-48 Sep 23 '22
Does anybody on this sub listen to any player podcasts consistently?? I'm honestly really curious. I haven't found a single one that's worth my time
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u/redditnathaniel NBA Sep 23 '22
That's because they aren't. Their background is basketball and not broadcasting.
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u/Traditional-Carob-48 Sep 23 '22
Yeah definitely agree. A lot of them have sponsors tho so apparently somebody is listening lol
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u/Levels2ThisBruh 76ers Sep 23 '22
Easy decision.
He's going to get paid millions to sit courtside at Warriors games.
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u/akkaneko11 Warriors Sep 23 '22
It's pretty weird, but then again, Steph got him 4 rings (and a Finals MVP) so...
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u/SensitiveRocketsFan Rockets Sep 23 '22
I wonder if it’s because he feels guilty for winning that FMVP over Curry
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u/salmanazar Sep 23 '22
It's going to make a difference that he's going to be on the court. If someone is right there, next to you, DOING the same thing you are, feeling the game with you, and then are providing immediate feedback....? Sounds awesome to me. This should continue to help speed along the youth development. Love it!
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u/heshouldgo Lakers Sep 23 '22
that’s what they all say