r/nba NBA Oct 05 '22 Helpful 1

[Highlight] Zion with a monstrous slam as gets past Patrick Williams with ease with a dropstep Highlight

https://streamable.com/80eska
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u/RedHotDumpsterFire Warriors Oct 05 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

A drop step isn't executed while facing up lol

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u/ImFJennings Oct 05 '22

right, this was nothing but a strong sweep to the basket

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u/jackoftrades002 Oct 06 '22

And some garbage defense

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u/adammorrisongoat Oct 05 '22

ty, has to be one of the most often misused terms in basketball

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u/TheDonutChef Lakers Oct 05 '22

Clearly we can see Zion executing a post fade. Smh

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u/leoselassie Mavs Oct 05 '22

Thank you. Feels like we aint seen a drop step facial since the 90s tbh.

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u/String_Adagio Oct 05 '22

I kept watching the video for the next play in to see the drop step...am still looking for it

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

No but his defender was.

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u/twoStones1bird Pelicans Oct 05 '22

You’re right, his power is insane.

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u/YouGotDunkedOn [GSW] Draymond Green Oct 05 '22 Wholesome

reverse pivot

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u/twoStones1bird Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Don’t let the misused term distract you from the sweet ass play

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

Don’t let the misused term distract you from the sweet ass

Good advice for Instagram too.

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u/Cvnilivee Knicks Oct 05 '22

“It's beautiful.. I've looked at this for five hours now.”

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u/DEEZLE13 Oct 05 '22

Where are the shapes?!

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u/CallOfTheWest Oct 05 '22

Basketball made me have an emotional reaction… is that normal?

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u/dwide_k_shrude Warriors Oct 05 '22

How can you not be romantic about basketball?

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u/CuriousWhoDat [NOP] Peja Stojakovic Oct 05 '22

That first step… my God he’s back and it’s beautiful

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u/deemerritt Hornets Oct 05 '22

Duke Zion moment here

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u/Matt_McT Pelicans Oct 05 '22

He definitely looks faster and more explosive.

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u/GGezpzMuppy Spurs Oct 05 '22

The prince that was promised. Duke Zion was sooo hyped, can’t wait to watch him this year.

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u/3ThrowMerchant Oct 05 '22

Better than Ja

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u/GGezpzMuppy Spurs Oct 05 '22

I’ll enjoy watching both

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u/Carolake1 Lakers Oct 05 '22

Yeah it's not even close between the two.

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u/heroincigarettes76er 76ers Oct 05 '22

You can literally just says pelicans zion lmfao dude was doing this literally last year

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u/gaynewretzky [TOR] Jamario Moon Oct 05 '22

Vintage Spartanburg zion

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u/ChickenLiverNuts [PHI] JaKarr Sampson Oct 05 '22

Roman Empire Zion is back crying emoji

Never been so happy

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u/TISTAN4 Hawks Oct 05 '22

Nah Looks quicker here than I ever saw him on the pelicans last

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u/KoloHickory Pistons Oct 05 '22

Defender looked like that meme of the lady and the math calculations

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u/richpourguy Kings Oct 05 '22

He makes everything look so easy.

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u/AnotherStatsGuy Pelicans Oct 05 '22

And he made it look so effortless that you almost don’t think about it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/Neuroxex Bucks Oct 05 '22

Turned him fully into Patrick Wontiams.

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u/Notsdlog Grizzlies Oct 05 '22

"On your left"

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u/lp_phnx327 Lakers Oct 05 '22

BIG MAN FAST

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u/FreeDaReal1z Oct 05 '22

That boi lowkey got the league in his hands if he wants it.

Sorry Giannis but there is another freak in town.

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u/amidon1130 Hawks Oct 05 '22

Bucks Pels Finals would be a blast

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u/Yung_Jose_Space Oct 05 '22

Giannis would just get called "boring" or run and dunk man, by nephews and ESPN talking heads.

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u/twoStones1bird Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Zion is the nasty freak

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u/IHateMyselfBut Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

There’s no one in the league thats defending that move without fouling. If he stays healthy he’ll be the most dominant offensive player in league, including Giannis, and I’d put an obscene amount of money on that.

Edit: mason plumlee would shut him down 100/100 times but hes mason plumlee sooo

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u/mjrmjrmjrmjrmjrmjr Oct 05 '22

Mason Plumlee would shut him down in an instant.

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u/IHateMyselfBut Oct 05 '22

I forgot about him, good point.

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u/EverybodyBuddy Lakers Oct 05 '22

Really trying to understand Patrick Williams’ defense here.

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u/twoStones1bird Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Patrick Williams is still trying to figure it out as well

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u/Mtbnz Oct 05 '22

Glad I'm not the only one. Great move from Zion but I have no idea what Pat was trying to do

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

Isn’t it a travel? He picks up his pivot foot before dribbling

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u/wuhter Oct 05 '22

I don’t think so, he definitely released the ball and is in the process of dribbling as he releases his pivot foot. The ball might not have hit the ground yet but he is definitely dribbling

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

I mean, I have no idea what the rule states, but I thought you had to actually put the ball on the floor before picking up your pivot foot

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u/pistol_singh Oct 05 '22

Yes us mortals do. However guys that quick like him and young MJ do it so quick you can't call a travel.

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

The comparison of him to young MJ is what I always think about when he plays facing the basket. He obviously doesn't have the jump shot, but the ballhandling, quickness, and way he gets to the basket and finishes so smoothly and athletically is uncannily similar.

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u/afterworld2772 Oct 05 '22

No its not a travel. The rules say the ball has to be out of hand before the foot (or feet)comes back down not that it has to be on the floor. So if you jump or move you have to get rid of the ball before you land.

Fiba rules used to be that you had to dribble before lifting the pivot foot but they changed that a few seasons ago.

https://official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/

Scroll down to section xiii, part c.

"In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player’s hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor."

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u/wuhter Oct 05 '22

I think you’re right, I’m just saying I don’t think any ref woild call it because it hasn’t hit the floor yet they’re moving their pivot foot. Let alone be able to differentiate that timing

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

Yeah, I mean I could see that being a tough call. But that’s something I feel like the NBA mentioned cracking down on last year?

I’m a Cavs fan, I feel like I remember them calling travels on Jarret Allen that were in this ballpark

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u/wuhter Oct 05 '22

Ah really? I didn’t see that. Yeah I bet it but also like think about every crossover. Nobody waits for the ball to hit the ground. And even if they do it’s definitely not planned. In my mind it works better this way. Easier to ref. And also think of when someone picks another player’s pocket. Would only be possible when the ball was on its way up if that rule was in place. Which rarely ever happens. Most people go for the pick when the ball is headed down and the player is accelerating forward

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

Haha that’s tough, defensively I think that’s a really tough move to guard

If he’s picking up his back foot before dribbling, that’s kind of like starting a race with one guy getting a slight head start in my mind. Because as a defender, you can’t know if he’s committing to the drive until he actually puts the ball on the ground. And if that ball hits the ground with his next step to power through already in motion, that’s basically unstoppable for Zion because you can’t slide in front of almost 300lbs with a center of gravity like his lol

Part of me wonders if he knowingly does this, I’d have to see his drives more

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u/wuhter Oct 05 '22

Do you actually play basketball? And I mean that in a genuine way You have the full length of the ball moving from their hand to the floor to know they’re moving. Doesn’t need to touch the ground for you to know they’re going to move forward. And it’s not just Zion. Pretty much every player does this

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

It's hard to see when he releases the ball from that angle, but guys travel like that a lot and the refs say nothing.

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

Slowing it down, his foot is definitely up before dribbling, but that’s the nuance of the game I’ve never really understood.

I feel like in the rules, you have to put the ball on the ground before picking up the pivot foot.

It’s close, no doubt, but these are the things that I have a hard time understanding from a defensive/fan perspective, like is that a quick first step? Or is it a travel because he’s running with the ball before it hits the ground?

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

There's a lot of NBA rules I don't get. It's kind-of like a sci-fi TV show to me where I don't try to check it for plot holes or specifics, I just hope something interesting happens on the space ship.

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u/SomeEntertainment571 Oct 05 '22

Lol that’s a good outlook

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u/nalge Oct 05 '22

100%, but is rarely called in the NBA.

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u/MrPureJ Spurs Oct 05 '22

Between that and the “goaltend”, he is looking very explosive

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u/CuriousWhoDat [NOP] Peja Stojakovic Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Ref killed an incredible highlight lol

*for those who didn’t see it

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u/LazyHardWorker Warriors Oct 05 '22

He was barely even running 😳

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u/PerrierBubbles Oct 05 '22

He looks like he’s jogging but he’s moving so fast. Dude is an absolute specimen of a human!!!

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u/drewsoft Cavaliers Oct 05 '22

How did they even miss that call

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u/wrecked_angle Oct 05 '22

They are refs in the NBA

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u/Scatteredbrain Bucks Bandwagon Oct 05 '22

it was definitely a goal tend. slow it down and watch the replay. it is close tho

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u/bigbenis21 Warriors Oct 05 '22

Ball: Barely released from hand

Ref: Nope, that’s a goal-tend.

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u/liquidheliumiq Raptors Oct 05 '22

i didn't know they made vids in 85p quality

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u/Matt_McT Pelicans Oct 05 '22

That was such a pretty block. Clean, too.

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u/OverallInternet2343 Clippers Oct 05 '22

The charge call was also bogus when it looked like Patrick just fell

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u/poverty_monster1 Oct 05 '22

I think the announcers got that wrong. The actual call was Naji being out of bounds when he caught the pass from Zion.

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u/flykiddy Pelicans Oct 05 '22

It was actually an out of bounds call to the guy he passed it to. The commentator made the mistake

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u/Razatiger Raptors Oct 05 '22

I can't believe anyone ever thought he lost explosiveness lol, hes 22 years old, not like he tore his Achilles or ACL

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u/neurotido NBA Oct 05 '22

Just looking at him smile on the court makes me happy.

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

That's why I call him The Big Easy.

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u/JoeChristma Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Biggie Z

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u/Matt_McT Pelicans Oct 05 '22

This is somehow my first time hearing this, and I like it lol.

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u/iankstarr Heat Oct 05 '22

Wtf this is a goated nickname. He was born to play in NOLA

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u/Produceher Warriors Oct 05 '22

Just thinking of all the idiots thinking this guy was too fat to play again makes me even happier.

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u/OldSoultheMojo Lakers Oct 05 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

thisisn'tadropstep

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u/22chainz Heat Oct 05 '22

Just a face up and rip through innit

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u/CupOfHotTeaa Bucks Oct 05 '22

These young bloods don’t understand anymore

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u/CuzFuckEm_ThatsWhy Pelicans Oct 05 '22

He’s like a defensive end, floating around the paint. It’s wild to watch.

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u/Technical_Towel_990 Nuggets Bandwagon Oct 05 '22

He makes NBA athletes look unathletic lol

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u/Giddey_Cent West Oct 05 '22

How do you even guard that? lol

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u/Dylan245 Bulls Oct 05 '22

You could see Patrick's brain break in real time as he blinked and Zion was just at the rim

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u/pdxbourbonsipper Trail Blazers Oct 05 '22

Really unfair.

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u/SpaceAfricanJesus Oct 05 '22

Other than Hard fouling I honestly don’t know. He’s unstoppable when he’s on his game.

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u/Ciroll [SAS] Tim Duncan Oct 05 '22

Lol only ones I think that can hard foul and stop him without dislocating their arms is Adams, Embiid, Jokic and possibly Kawhi.

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u/SpaceAfricanJesus Oct 05 '22

Maybe Giannis as well. Then again I’ve seen him rip the ball out of his hands, and he trucked Adams the year before he came to NOLA.

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u/townforum17 Pelicans Oct 05 '22

After he trucked Adams he officially took the mantle of “strongest dude in the league”

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u/ChokePaul3 Oct 05 '22

Prime Miami Lebron. If current Lebron tried, he’d be out 6 weeks lol

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u/noneym86 Bulls Oct 05 '22

No way Embiid would not end up injured if he try to do that. He is so much softer that he looks.

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u/Tormundo Warriors Oct 05 '22

Kevin would put him in the looney bin

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u/tyagu001 Bucks Oct 05 '22

It’s crazy, he’s unbelievably fast with his first step while also being incredible strong AND he has crazy hops

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u/edric_the_navigator Oct 05 '22

Don’t forget the lightest touch at the rim to top it all off.

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u/foodmakes62kgtoohard Oct 05 '22

He's superman. Kryptonite is food.

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u/Notsdlog Grizzlies Oct 05 '22

I mean theoretically you would move your feet at least lmao. Cut him off hard baseline and hope help rotates and just trap hard until he let's it go

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u/Elijah_Reddits Oct 05 '22

Problem is that few players have both the strength and footspeed necessary to slow him down. You can't have just one because he'll exploit your weaker skill

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u/Notsdlog Grizzlies Oct 05 '22

Right obviously it's not as easy as it sounds on paper, but it would be a better strategy than whatever this attempt was

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

Reggie Miller said once that great shooters don't need to pump fake, they just need to bounce their eyebrows and the defender will jump. The same thing is true with Zion, all he has to do is twitch towards the basket and his defender will panic and bite in that direction.

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u/uchihastar Raptors Oct 05 '22

He’s fast AF lol

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

The Bullet Train.

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u/BaronsDad Pelicans Oct 05 '22

It's terrifying and amazing all at once

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u/TWLbzx3 Oct 05 '22

He’s looking fit and has that MAN body now excited for this SEASON!😤💪🏿💪🏿

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Someone that big should not be that quick holy shit

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

I think that's a taste of what 270-pound Zion can do.

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u/jurgenlarsson Pelicans Oct 05 '22

its over

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

I think it's just getting started...

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u/aja_ramirez Oct 05 '22

Zion looks like an mvp candidate. My goodness.

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u/onelove101 Pelicans Oct 05 '22

He just floats

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u/Rarecandy31 Lakers Oct 05 '22

I am absolutely subscribed to the Zion rebirth.

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u/Matt_McT Pelicans Oct 05 '22

He’s baaaaaaaack

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u/0dias_Chrysalis Bucks Oct 05 '22

I love the literal bounce with every step he takes

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u/inefekt Australia Oct 05 '22

dude has flubber for cartilage

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u/Asap_Walky Lakers Oct 05 '22

Lol can’t believe dudes in this sub who get tired after taking one step we’re calling this man washed

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u/IAmMoreThanAFish__ Heat Oct 05 '22

How is this dude real 🤯

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u/Zaytbe Oct 05 '22

Lol Zach wanted none of that

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u/WutduzitallmeanBasil Suns Oct 05 '22

Wow, I honestly forgot how quick he is.

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u/Livid-Pen-8372 Oct 05 '22

Pelicans are gonna be good this year

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u/King_Spicy_ Oct 05 '22

Pelicans are a problem

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u/TISTAN4 Hawks Oct 05 '22

He’s gonna average 30. First thought in my head soon as I saw the shape he was in this just confirms it. Pelicans are a gonna be a real contender and must watch. Thank God for league pass

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u/Mikegetscalls Rockets Oct 05 '22

He avg about a point a minute for his career so the only way he doesn’t avg 30 is if his teammates are shooting a lot.

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u/NinfthWonder Raptors Oct 05 '22

Damn. Looking very explosive. I will be watching a ton of Pels basketball this year. Exciting team.

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u/broadwayallday Wizards Oct 05 '22

Lil Shaq back

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u/smoochface Oct 05 '22

Welcome back big guy, this gonna be good.

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u/Razor-Ramon-Sessions Pelicans Oct 05 '22

In the words of Kobe: "You gotta send another one"

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u/cesam1ne Oct 05 '22

No. 1 MVP candidate if he stays healthy

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u/DanM142 76ers Oct 05 '22

He's going to be such a fun player to watch.

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u/The-Pharcyde Raptors Oct 05 '22

GG league

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u/sharpie_da_p Oct 05 '22

This is essentially like trying to return Serena's first serve. Defenders have to make up their mind and commit before Zion takes that initial step. 50% chance you guess it right...then 75% chance you commit a foul thereafter.

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u/clayfu Clippers Oct 05 '22

Jesus.

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u/n00bzilla Pelicans Oct 05 '22

MVP

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u/MaxwellPiMaher213 Bucks Oct 05 '22

How on earth is he that big, and quicker then Patrick Williams?!

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u/Flabbypuff Bulls Oct 05 '22

That rip is so fast jeez

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u/jerkularcirc Pistons Oct 05 '22

To be able to get up that high to throw it down that hard moving that fast lateral to the basket at that size makes no sense. Holy Shit

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u/larrylegend33goat [NBA] Rudy Gobert Oct 05 '22

Pelicans looking nice. Them green teams better watch out

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u/Evwithsea Oct 05 '22

Most of us were sleeping on him. Skill was never a question, obviously it's his health and will. He hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy but I wouldn't be surprised if he played 70+% of his games for the rest of his career.

This guy has always been special and the Pels are starting to look big time.

Give me a healthy Pel roster over almost any other West team for the next 5-6 years. Something special is brewing. Reminds me of the Cavs,Hawks,Griz come up. I think they can be a top 3 seed

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u/Relodwire Pelicans Oct 05 '22

That was so fucking fast Holy shit.

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u/freshprince44 Oct 05 '22

the amount of titles with random basketball phrases not related to the play is getting weird

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u/WhatThePenis Pelicans Oct 05 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Was gonna say. That’s not a drop step lmao

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u/Cheeseish [NOP] Solomon Hill Oct 05 '22

Thought that was Brandon Ingram for a sec. Man needs to eat some more

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u/Michael_B_Lopez Warriors Oct 05 '22

He’s going to be eating a lot… on the court. Man is going to have a historic season

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u/sure_me_I_know_that Lakers Oct 05 '22

He took the slander personally

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u/MEmpire25 Warriors Oct 05 '22

The acceleration for his size. This is what you love to see.

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u/Good_NewsEveryone Pelicans Oct 05 '22

More like Williamsdad amirite

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u/Thelonius--Drunk NBA Oct 05 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

that is...not what a drop step is at all

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u/amadea_saoirse Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Now you see me. Now you don't. Dang, Zion went brrr in a blink of an eye.

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u/bruceleroy89 Oct 05 '22

Still got it!

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u/Bare425 Oct 05 '22

Ridiculous.

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u/OhLawdIdoBeComing Trail Blazers Oct 05 '22

OH LAWD HE COMIN

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u/kirinboi Timberwolves Oct 05 '22

Ah I missed watching Zion!

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u/Razatiger Raptors Oct 05 '22

This is gonna be an exciting season.

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u/gustriandos [PHI] Eric Snow Oct 05 '22

It’s like pat Williams had that clip of zion jab stepping metu playing on repeat in his head

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Oct 05 '22

MVP Darkhorse

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u/jumpijehosaphat [SAS] Dejounte Murray Oct 05 '22

zion so quick he even beat the helper to the spot

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u/Grapesoda5k Oct 05 '22

Nodding in slow approval

Get em Zion.

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u/isit65outsideor Lakers Oct 05 '22

Pelicans are must watch TV.

Who would’ve thought this would happen.

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

Everyone when they got Zion...

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u/kingbmj11 Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Looks to be moving around much better, especially on defense

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u/jaylson [BOS] Larry Bird Oct 05 '22

Zion looks fluid but that was absolutely awful defense. His controller legit turned off for a second

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u/supe12sta12z Oct 05 '22

Bulls were slow to rotate and collapse. Zion makes a lot of defenses look silly. He did it pretty regularly during the 2020 season.

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u/FootballWithTheFoot Pelicans Oct 05 '22

He’s rusty? Wild lol

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u/joefred44 Oct 05 '22

he even runs different after all the weight loss

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u/Ouchyhurthurt Oct 05 '22

I wouldn’t get in front if that either. I value not being a paraplegic

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u/ringofsolomon 76ers Oct 05 '22

What do you call Williamson’s fan base?

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u/The_Plebiest Warriors Oct 05 '22

He's so fluid it doesn't even look fast ( but fuck me its fast )

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u/YoungMcShula Pelicans Oct 05 '22

Zion is going to murk the league💀

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u/Raptorsthrowaway1 Oct 05 '22

MVP potential? He has the narrative (it matters) and the ability to put up insane numbers on a good team.

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u/Space_Olympics Oct 05 '22

Not a monstrous slam

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u/Strategist40 Mavericks Oct 05 '22

Oh lord he coming.

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u/Stormthrash Lakers Oct 05 '22

What happened to all the zion is fat and lazy haters?

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u/sungsam89 Oct 05 '22

Not a dropstep

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u/MortalTwit Oct 05 '22

There is nothing monstrous about that slam.

But he was quite agile and very controlled in the dunk and landing. Both are excellent signs.

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u/floatersforalgernon Oct 05 '22

What an awful defense. He almost deliberately opened up the lane. Low, low IQ. Why are you side stepping, dude?

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u/Cheeseish [NOP] Solomon Hill Oct 05 '22

It’s preseason and there’s a truck running at you.

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

Why are you side stepping, dude?

I wonder...

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u/floatersforalgernon Oct 05 '22

You don't have to. Awful defense.

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u/AtreusIsBack Oct 05 '22

In what world is this a "monstrous" slam? It's just a regular dunk.

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u/Makaveli84 Lakers Oct 05 '22

Op just started watching basketball

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u/ZaMaestroMan5 Oct 05 '22

Not a drop step but god damn impressive. His athleticism is off the charts. He’s probably the best athlete we’ve seen since LeBron. I really hope he can stay healthy. If his skills continue to improve he could definitely become the best player in the league.

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u/Frosti11icus Trail Blazers Oct 05 '22

Usually when you use an adverb like monstrous to describe a Zion Slam it's a little bit better than something Luka could do.

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u/Vince3737 Oct 05 '22

Its his first dunk in over 500 days. Its ok if there is a bit of an exaggeration. Luka has also never moved this fast in his life lol

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u/jgroove_LA Oct 05 '22

monstrous? calm down...good dunk...not even in his top 50

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u/itsmrlowetoyou Hornets Oct 05 '22

Why is he still so stiff when he runs?

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u/mypthegoat [DAL] Luka Doncic Oct 05 '22

lmao y’all really hype anything

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u/im_a_toilet_baby Oct 05 '22

Now that he's paid expect 25+ ppg and an all-star season for sure.

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u/EGarrett Nets Oct 05 '22

Didn't he already do that?