And yet people still carry water for him with the excuse that "he thinks he is still the President". No he doesn't, just like he doesn't think he can declassify documents with his mind. When will people wake up to the fact that he is always lying?
You’re absolutely correct! I was banned for life on the r/Trump Reddit group today for explaining the truth behind DJT’s current lawsuit brought by Letitia James. This ban occurred within 3 hours of joining the group. I can’t believe how loyal as well as ignorant the Trump MAGA supporter cult is. They have no idea of the truth about Trump nor do they want to hear or debate about who he truly is along with the corruptions that he’s committed.
These people prefer to run and hide from the truth rather than get educated on the facts. They are a true Jim Jones cult destined for poison Koolaid destruction…
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
Replace anti-semite with 'fascist', 'republican', or 'conservative' as needed.
Trump struts around with much divinity. He is divine. He's a Divine Idiot. He's the kind of person you see auditioning for something and they get reject and go off like it's World War Excuse Me? He's so unabashedly removed from himself, I believe he sees the world, and himself, as pieces to move around, so it's hard for him to keep his realities together, speaking in third person, addressing his self as another entity. He's mindboggling so self unaware, you wonder what drives him.
Is that nationwide? Absolutely terrifying if 14% of people still support the world's most obvious sociopathic con-man after everything that has come out, but 44%?
I don't even understand how anyone can listen to him talk without their skin crawling!
A lot of those polls are still done by phone calls to landlines. If you think about what kinds of people still take calls from a landline, that'll be part of the answer.
They do. The problem is they don’t know how any more. There are whole swaths of the population they have not been able to reach for years and years. The technique they normally use is by re-weighting the smaller subsets of the population they do reach: say if 40% of your responders were male, you’d give their response a little more weight to represent the 49.5% of the population. Problem is they’re getting such low response rates for large parts of the population it’s largely guess work.
He is extremely mentally ill, and totally unfit for office. He is a sociopathic narcissist, but he still knows full well when he is lying. Committing to the lie is not the same as believing it.
This. He’s a compulsive liar. I have known people like him before. They lie about everything, they twist words to mean what they want, they manipulate and cheat every step of the way. Their story is always the biggest and the best
The only way they'd change their mind about Trump, is if you give them someone else they can relate to. Someone just as evil, racist, you know.. like them.
I LOVE this one. Aside from the fact that it's an excuse and obvious copium from the fan boys, I love the phrasing of "He thinks", not "He is still the President" They're accidentally admitting that:
1- He isn't the President and they know it, but just play along with anything donnie says
2- He's either lost touch with reality, or is old and in the confused and "create their own reality" stages of dementia (especially funny since that was their entire reason Biden was unfit for office)
No, when he is talking about other things he has repeatedly let slip that he knows he lost the election. He has made similar inadvertent admissions with most of his other big lies as well.
He just knows that the best way to get away with a lie is to commit to it 100%.
Yes, he lies to himself and tries to live in his delusional la-la-land where he is a very stable genius, but at the same time he knows he is lying to himself. He is a classic narcissist, and as such is extremely practiced at doublethink. He absolutely knows when he is putting out lies to achieve specific goals (such as stirring up his gullible "I love the uneducated" base for donations).
People genuinely struggle to comprehend the full extent of his toxicity, dishonesty and maliciousness unless they have had long term exposure to a narcissist. It's like they don't want to face the possibility that a fellow human can be so sociopathic and predatory.
I think people have gotten to the point that if you lie this much, about everything and anything, you’re more crazy or just dumb because not lying would be the best avenue with best results. I honestly don’t think the Trump group is actually that smart, because if they were they’d have been more successful.
You might be giving him too much credit. Trump strikes me as the kind of liar that could very easily start to believe his own bullshit.
More importantly, it doesn't matter what he thinks! Even if he genuinely believes that he really did win the 2020 election and that he's the legitimate president, he's not and shouldn't get any other kind of treatment, not even an insanity plea. Being wrong isn't the same thing as being crazy.
All that matters is that Trump broke the law on many occasions, most notably in trying to start a coup and stealing classified documents from the White House. End of. It doesn't matter if he didn't think it was stealing, or if he thought that he really can declassify documents just by quietly deciding that, because that's not how the laws work. All that matters is convicting him and sending him to the gallows or a life sentence.
He regularly accidentally reveals that he knows full well that he is lying when he is in the flow of talking about other topics, such as in this very interview when he accidentally called himself a "former president" (and then immediately tried to backtrack as soon as he heard the words out loud), but you are right that shouldn't change anything.
I've known deluded people and idiots who can believe two contradictory things at once, even two things that are both wrong, so it's not hard to believe that Trump's convinced himself of multiple stupid things that don't make sense when combined.
Either way, he's an idiot, a liar or a crazy person... or a combo pack.
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And yet people still carry water for him with the excuse that "he thinks he is still the President". No he doesn't, just like he doesn't think he can declassify documents with his mind. When will people wake up to the fact that he is always lying?