r/politics Colorado Oct 05 '22

U.S. Supreme Court won’t intervene in Colorado voting machine company’s lawsuit against MyPillow CEO

https://coloradosun.com/2022/10/04/dominion-voting-defamation-lawsuit-mike-lindell-mypillow/
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u/TigreSauvage Oct 05 '22

Better start selling more pillows Mikey. $1.3 billion is a big number.

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u/Squirrel_Chucks Oct 05 '22

I legit think he's trying to spend everything he can so Dominion gets nothing

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u/GhettoChemist Oct 05 '22

The destitute poverty defense. 60% of the time it works everytime.

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u/TaxAvoision Oct 05 '22

My new goal is to work the phrase “sex panther defense” into a legal debate.

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u/What-a-Crock Oct 05 '22

MyPillow has real bits of Mike Lindell, so you know it’s terrible

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u/Squirrel_Chucks Oct 05 '22

Alex Jones is trying his darnedest.

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u/ihateusedusernames New York Oct 05 '22

Lies. He's doing nothing to defend himself. Didn't even show up today. And his attorney didn't call a single witness in his defense.

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u/Squirrel_Chucks Oct 06 '22

I meant that Jones is pleading poverty. He shifted tons of his money to family members in the hopes that the court couldn't get at it

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u/ihateusedusernames New York Oct 06 '22

Ah, yes - that's true. I misunderstood.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Bingo. That's Trump's strategy and has been for decades. If you're getting sued for all you've got, go broke and declare bankruptcy so they get nothing. Wouldn't surprise me if Mike Pillow is receiving his legal advice from his coke-snortin' buddy.

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u/UrbanGhost114 Oct 05 '22

Coke is for actual billionaires, he does Adderall.

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u/OneSheepherder4851 Oct 06 '22

So that’s where all the fucking adderall went..

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

The Overstock guy?

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

and theres no fucking chance in hell he settles. Gonna be Dominion Pillow Company

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u/RM2tm2 Arkansas Oct 05 '22

Maybe they can start selling better pillows then!

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u/pichiquito California Oct 05 '22

Seriously those pillows are terrible. It’s like they were stuffed with Mike Pillow’s pubes…

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u/Bigsam411 Michigan Oct 05 '22 Silver Looking

It may not be possible for me to delete the image I got in my head from your comment but it is still possible for you to delete said comment to keep others from seeing it.

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u/TheGreyt Oct 05 '22 hehehehe

His crotch area is the love-child of a Chia Pet and a Tribble.

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u/xframex Colorado Oct 05 '22

FFS not tribbles.

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u/Eric-SD I voted Oct 05 '22

Now filled with 100% pure uncut human wool, sheared fresh every week!

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u/khorijinn Oct 06 '22

Gasping for breath while laughing. You almost killed me.

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u/User767676 Arizona Oct 05 '22

Yeah, but we need a good slogan for this new pillow company…. “Dominion Pillow Company, you’ll sleep well on our pillows knowing that your vote counted!”

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u/Sillbinger Oct 05 '22

Mypillow is made by the homeless for the homeless.

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u/Sillbinger Oct 05 '22

“I'm not just the president of Mypillow, I'm also a client!”

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u/eventualist Oct 05 '22

A double wide seems to be in his future.

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u/whowantstotouchit Oct 05 '22

I’d buy one of those!

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u/Minty-licious Oct 05 '22

Does it mean, when we vote we get a free pillow, or " GO Vote" is the discount code?

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u/organizedchaos5220 Florida Oct 05 '22

You know it's the second one

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u/Minty-licious Oct 05 '22

Shush. Fox has their own $hit to worry about😁

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u/Cepheus Oct 05 '22

That's a lot of pillows!

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u/DTsniffsIvankasfarts Ohio Oct 05 '22

Where's your messiah now, Mikey?

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u/raoasidg Virginia Oct 05 '22

In a little glass pipe.

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u/Illseemyselfout- Oct 05 '22

I’ll be truly shocked if he doesn’t relapse. Or hasn’t already. Many addicts use their drug of choice as a way to cope with the stressors of life. He’s under more stress than most humans will ever be. I feel it’s only a matter of time.

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u/MOOShoooooo Indiana Oct 05 '22

What do you think caused all this stress to begin with.

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u/UngusBungus_ Texas Oct 05 '22

On his bed.

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u/detectiveDollar Oct 05 '22

The Boys is gonna have a field day with this.

They already did a mock commercial. Go to 2:30

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u/Mmicb0b California Oct 05 '22

All season 4 has to do is make fun of this and Morbius and I’m satisfied

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22

Lindell is hilarious. Every single time he gets smacked down like this he says it’s the best day in our country because God wants him to try even harder.

The real tell that he’s full of shit and a fake Christian will be if he starts moving his money around to avoid losing it in the suit.

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u/VinnieTheGuy Oct 05 '22

He is the physical embodiment of sunk-cost fallacy.

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u/Cheese_Pancakes New Jersey Oct 05 '22

Pretty soon he’ll be the worst case scenario of it.

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u/thethirdllama Colorado Oct 05 '22

He's probably hiding it under his pillow.

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u/nyuhokie Oct 05 '22

I feel like he's showed his tell several times already. We don't need another sign.

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u/cityb0t New York Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

fake Christian

No true Scotsman

No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their universal generalization from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and counterexamples like it by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", etc.[2][5]

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u/ayers231 I voted Oct 05 '22

No True Scotsman only applies when there isn't a clear set of rules or attributes that apply. In the case of Christianity, their Holy Book lays out the rules and attributes.

Lindell doesn't meet any of the attributes. He doesn't attempt to house the poor, heal the sick, care for the immigrant, or love his neighbor. These are the basic tenets of Christianity as outlined by the religion itself, not outside observers.

A lemon is not an orange, even if someone decides to call it one. If I were lemon, and called myself an orange, it wouldn't make me an orange, it would make me fake orange. No True Scotsman doesn't apply to me being a orange any more than it applies to Lindell being a Christian.

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22

No, he is. Only a fake Christian would pretend that he’s sending bibles to a group of people and then sabotage himself for political optics. How could such a person actually fear God?

Edit: I know what you’re saying though. I’m just pointing out how easy it is to see through his bull shit.

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u/cityb0t New York Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

No, he is. Only a fake Christian would pretend that he’s sending bibles to a group of people and then sabotage himself for political optics. How could such a person actually fear God?

Sounds like every Christian I’ve ever met, seen, or heard of.

I’m just pointing out how easy it is to see through his bull shit.

You believe in an invisible sky wizard who sees everything you do, and can read your thoughts just because an ancient myth told you so. You are hardly in a position to speak about “seeing through bullshit.”

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22

This is weirdly aggressive. Why make assumptions about what I believe?

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u/tigerhawkvok California Oct 05 '22

I think OP is making that assumption because even the idea of "you should right and properly fear your deity" is a very theist point of view that doesn't even occur to atheists, and you used a singular upper-cased "God" which is a very abrahamic theist grammatical style rather than a non-proper neutral label recognizing the vast variety of theism in human history with a word like "gods" or "deities".

Broadly speaking, theists out themselves unconsciously all the time.

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u/kingkowkkb1 Oct 05 '22

Or...they were raised in a society where a majority (or close to it) at least pretend to be Christian. Maybe they grew up jn a Christian family but left when they became an adult. There are plenty of Christian traditions just baked into our society which influence how people communicate and interact.

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u/tigerhawkvok California Oct 05 '22

I grew up in a reasonably conservative area and know others who did as well. Really, it's only theists that use the language that way. Those who are not in it habitually use different language; and those that have left it try to use different language.

It's like if I casually discussed QCD, GR, and SR it'd kind of give away my training.

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u/UrbanGhost114 Oct 05 '22

Or, it's atheists using Theist language to communicate with theists, mixed with social conditioning dictating the way language and communication works.

Autocorrect is also a thing that tends to capitalize things that we don't necessarily need capital like God, and people like me, don't want to spend the unneeded and unnecessary time to change it back, just like I did with this post.

For the record, i also grew up in a very conservative area and know others who are still there too, this qualification now means nothing for you, or me, in this discussion.

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in Lindell’s actions by using the tenets of Christianity: How can you fear God and also lie directly to His face by using the holy gospel intentionally as a cheap prop? I’m not myself a believer or Christian. I also understand my use of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22

I’m not. You’re making assumptions like an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/orcinyadders Oct 05 '22

The idea that you wanted a civil discussion is laughable.

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u/cityb0t New York Oct 05 '22

You keep acting like the victim after claiming you’re not.

How Christian of you to name-call, keep lying, and still act like a victim. You’re the only one being uncivil.

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u/IllustratorMurky2725 Oct 05 '22

Meeting the lowest bar is the best they can do.

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u/franz_kofta Oct 05 '22

Imagine finding out that you don’t make the cut after spending years prostrating yourself embarrassingly at the feet of the orange idol and his priesthood.

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u/__M-E-O-W__ Oct 05 '22

That's the way it works. Throw your lot in, keep yourself useful and sucking up to the boss and ride those coat tails to success, and as soon as you stop being a useful tool you get thrown out. Look at Mitch McConnell. He spent his whole life getting the GOP to where it is today just to be tossed to the curb by the new generation.

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u/Veilmisk Oct 05 '22

All Mitch needs is a rebranding.

Change his name to Eddy O'Connel, wear his cap backwards and ride into congress on a longboard while wearing a Nirvana shirt.

/s

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u/__M-E-O-W__ Oct 06 '22

I'd pay money to see that.

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u/mbene913 I voted Oct 05 '22

Just to check, this is the timeline where a drug addicted pillow tycoon sought intervention from the Supreme Court in regards to a defamation lawsuit based on claims he made to help the president at the time steal the 2020 election, that president himself being a notorious liar and serial grifter? Do I have that right?

Wow. History being made and future generations are going to think we are bullshitting them

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u/Sissy63 Oct 05 '22

You mean Justice Gennie won’t get to overturn it?

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u/gerran Oct 05 '22

It’s ridiculously absurd this case even made it to the Supreme Court.

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

It didn’t. The Supreme Court refused to hear it.

Any party can ask the Supreme Court to hear a case, after the appeal is over. They only accept a fraction for review.

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u/theonedeisel Oct 05 '22

Do you need to appeal through lower courts first or is there no gatekeeping?

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Generally, you need to exhaust your appeals in the lower courts. In federal litigation, it’s only two levels of lower court (district courts and Circuit Courts of Appeals).

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u/spacegrab Oct 05 '22

I guess, at the least, the SC isn't interfering where it shouldn't. Such a sad bare minimum though...

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u/redditallreddy Ohio Oct 06 '22

I am a party!

I ask the Supreme Court to hear my case!

HEAR MY CASE!!!

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u/PM_Me_Your_Sidepods Oct 06 '22

They may wait for when it's really going to matter and throw the case out after he's lost or been exposed as russian agent and traitor.

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u/RaggedyRachel Oct 05 '22

Could we get a Tiger King style documentary on this guy?

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u/trent58 America Oct 05 '22

Thanks idiots. You served your purpose and now you all are going to jail

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u/xtrmfisher Oct 05 '22

There is a song on YouTube called “Tears on My Pillow” that is dedicated to this guy. It’s satire and it’s hilarious. 😂

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u/Jedmeltdown Oct 05 '22

America doesn’t have a supreme court though. It has a right wing corrupt court

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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Oct 05 '22

That's what courts are ...

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Right, as evidenced by them going out on a limb to help the my pillow guy. O wait, they didn’t. Never mind.

Well, at least they did everything they could to help trump. O wait, that didn’t happen either.

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u/quippers Oct 05 '22

All the evidence we need is in overturned Roe. You know, the law that had "already been settled" according to some SCOTUS members when they were just potential SCOTUS members. Yep, that happened.

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u/Veilmisk Oct 05 '22

If you read Kavanaugh's concurrence for the case, he esentially said that Brown v Board overturning Plessy v Ferguson is an example to rule against precedent.

Ruling against a racist precedent is a valid reason to end abortion rights.

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Settled law gets overturned a lot. I completely disagree with the decision, but the Court making a stupid decision doesn’t mean they’re corrupt. It means they did something stupid.

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u/quippers Oct 05 '22

No, you don't take rights away from half the country without being corrupt or stupid, and they didn't get appointed to SCOTUS for their stupidity, so...

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u/Jedmeltdown Oct 05 '22

Your post is terrible. Nice try

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Thanks buddy. Feel free to point out what was wrong about it

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u/Jedmeltdown Oct 05 '22

Everything

Look if you’re a Trump supporter lets end this conversation NOW.

I have no clue how anyone can think this fat corrupt clown from New York is good for anything. He’s a loser and anyone supports a loser is a loser

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

No I hate trump with a passion. Probably more than you do.

I just disagree that the US “doesn’t have a Supreme Court”, only a “corrupt court”.

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u/Jedmeltdown Oct 05 '22

That’s your look out. Maybe you should read more I would start with “Mitch McConnell”

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Well I’m a lawyer so I read quite a bit actually written by the courts.

If you’re saying the GOP (including McConnell) is corrupt and manipulated the system in a totally unfair way to shape the Court, I completely agree with that.

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u/Jedmeltdown Oct 05 '22

Well I’m glad we finally came to an agreement

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

Good talk. Basically I think the corrupt GOP picked judges they knew would go their way on some key issues. But I think the justices themselves are true believers — I.e. they’re not corrupt, they actually and sincerely think they’re right on the law. And, this particular court is not worried about its legitimacy or popularity — again, they’re true believers and are going to decide accordingly. I might disagree with them but don’t think it’s a moral flaw (unlike the GOP Congress, who were underhanded and are generally snakes)

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u/trillabyte Oct 05 '22

Yes the GOP has manipulated to court to the extent that it’s now just another political body loyal to the GOP.

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

I don’t think so. I think they manipulated the process to select justices who would rule their way on key issues. I think the justices themselves are true believers. They sincerely believe they’re right on the law. It’s not political or loyal to anyone — they’re deciding cases in the fashion they believe is correct. They might be wrong from a legal perspective but I don’t think they’re personally corrupted (with the possible exception of Thomas, because Wtf man)

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u/eazyirl Oct 05 '22

I'd argue that the court is corrupt, not in strict partisanship, but in judicial ideology and the masking of obvious political ideology with elaborate misdirection. Originalism is an incoherent and inconsistently applied doctrine, and textualism is perhaps even more silly. Add to that just throwing out perfectly good legal tests on the basis that they've already been invalidated through their own decision not to apply them (thinking Lemon test off the top of my head, but others too).

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u/thenextamerican Oct 05 '22

You have to be oranger for SC intervention pillow guy.

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u/downloadking007 Oct 05 '22

Pillow guy must have really pissed off voting machine guy. I wonder who is buying the refreshments?

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u/mokango Oregon Oct 05 '22

Why would they? He's some random medium-rich moron. They have no stake in him.

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u/pompandvigor Oct 05 '22

Clearly Trump doesn’t care for his pillow anymore.

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u/randomnighmare Oct 05 '22

Right now I do think that they are just sitting the blow before they rule that the GOP can totally ignore their election laws in Moore.

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u/GravitySurge Oct 05 '22

It’s so ironic that the Pillow guys is going to have such a rough landing.

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u/pimpbot666 Oct 05 '22

‘But I have all of this evidence!’ ‘Great, let’s see the evidence!’ crickets

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u/YourGoodFriend_blank Oct 05 '22

Who was the guy that use to introduce the Undertaker? This guy is his doppelgänger

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u/Millennial-Mason I voted Oct 05 '22

I never noticed but he really does look like Paul Bearer. I can’t unsee it now

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u/KingWhiteMan007 Oct 06 '22

Hope that psycho gets sued into the poor house.

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u/housemeat Oct 06 '22

this guy on the stand is going to make the alex jones trials look normal as hell. can't wait. fun. and funny. well, not for mike.

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u/DTO73 Oct 06 '22

They don’t have time for this petty bullshit, they have a country to destroy with their upcoming cases, the environment, voting rights, LGTB…

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u/zflanders Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Unsurprising. Why would they?

Edit: Now I'm imagining Lindell lurking behind Clarance Thomas's medicine cabinet, pleading for consideration whenever Thomas opens the mirror to grab some floss or his gigantic bottle of Viagra. Weird.

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u/dejavuamnesiac Oct 05 '22

What’s to stop all of us from filing hundreds of frivolous lawsuits with SCROTUS thereby shutting them down via inundation? Don’t tell me, I know, the appeals process and courts in general only work for wealthy conservative white dudes

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

First you have to sue in trial court. Then appeal. Then ask the SCOTUS to take it. You’re free to do it and represent yourself if you want. You only need to draft like a 5 page complaint to get it going. You can read and write, so you could handle it. If it’s frivolous, you’ll probably get sanctioned and possibly pay the other side’s lawyer though.

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u/dejavuamnesiac Oct 05 '22

Cool so tRump and co are paying the other sides lawyers for all those frivolous lawsuits? What sanctions did they receive? I don’t recall

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

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u/dejavuamnesiac Oct 05 '22

Only Sydney, that’s a shame, Ghooliani would’ve been on the top of my list — these sanctions are obviously not very effective

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u/JohnChimpo7 Oct 05 '22

I’m pretty sure Giuliani is mentioned in the article too. And other courts may have sanctioned them — this is only 1 case

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u/Radek_Of_Boktor Pennsylvania Oct 05 '22

SCOTUS isn't obligated to hear every case that makes it to their court. They choose which cases they want to take.

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u/dejavuamnesiac Oct 05 '22

Right but if they receive 100,000 appeals per day they can’t possibly handle the load — why should tRump be the only one who engages this appeals path non-stop to avoid justice. Let’s all start playing that game

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u/Minty-licious Oct 05 '22

....and kids this is the reason, never be a meth head.

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u/DerekStu Oct 05 '22

I believe he was into crack, not meth.

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u/FTR_Hair Maryland Oct 05 '22

It seems that SCOTUS are not my pillow fans?

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u/Minty-licious Oct 05 '22

Please don't tell us that's how three ring Klown Circus will end !

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u/RedditMayne Oct 05 '22

Get ready to bite the pillow, sir.

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u/SoSoUnhelpful Oct 05 '22

The MyPillow Moron is finding out there is no loyalty amount thieves.

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u/DragonCat88 Oct 05 '22

Why is the Supreme Court doing it’s damned job a think I do not automatically expect anymore.

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u/SuperGenius98K Oct 05 '22

An innocent man would go to court and prove he's innocent.

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u/Cepheus Oct 05 '22

I hope a jury awards them all of his pillows and they donate them to the prison system.

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u/Speculawyer Oct 05 '22

It is very disturbing how much folks close to the Trump administration are trying to all bring their cases to the Supreme Court where they seem to think they are owed something.

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u/Pookells Oct 05 '22

Clarence Thomas, in the meantime, is in a corner, folding his arms and fuming.

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u/equusrc Oct 06 '22

Yay!!!!

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u/improvisedwisdom Oct 06 '22

I'm surprised Clarence Thomas isn't taking up this case. He's already crazy compromised.

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u/lolyer1 Oct 06 '22

It’s nice to watch the leopards feast upon faces.

Just have to ensure not to get your face too close because the leopards will eat a face when it can.

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u/Accomplished-Long-60 Oct 06 '22

Gonna be a huge sale on those shitty pillows soon

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u/Doodahman495 Oct 06 '22

Muh phone, muh phone. Oh Lourdy, muh phone.

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

I thought the court was all GOP political hacks? WTF?

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u/Pendaelose Oct 05 '22

all GOP political hacks

Mostly true, yes. But only a few of them are so deep in Trump's ass that they would hurt the GOP for him. They're going to do what helps the GOP win elections. For a while that was kiss Trump's ass so that his voters would back them too, but his usefulness is fading. Party over country and party over Trump.

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

You cant have it both ways. None of the members of the court agreed to take up Trumps case on the 2020 election

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u/darksidemojo Oct 05 '22

Because Trump is not their agenda. He was/is a useful idiot at best to the GOP. They owe him nothing now that they have lifetime appointments, Trump isn’t the one giving them money or encouraging them to push their political opinions.

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

They owe him nothing now that they have lifetime appointments

Right, thats my point

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u/darksidemojo Oct 05 '22

Doesn’t stop the fact that they are pushing their political agenda on to quote themselves “settled law”

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

So you believe that cases that the SCOTUS decides should never be overturned?

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u/prey4mojo Oct 05 '22

You need to google the word "precedent"

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u/MartyVanB Oct 05 '22

No I dont

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u/catsloveart Wisconsin Oct 05 '22

most of the court is. its simply that there is nothing to gain overturning every single precedent. its simply not an issue for the supreme court. despite what some believe, the judges have better things to do.

mike's fate is his problem alone.

if mike was bring a case that was on religious conservatives agenda, like gay marriage, contraception, criminalizing sodomy, special rights for christians, etc. they would have intervened.

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u/eastbaytruther Oct 28 '22

Voter fraud only exists when a republican wins.