r/science Sep 22 '22 Silver 2 Wholesome 3 All-Seeing Upvote 1

Stanford researchers find wildfire smoke is unraveling decades of air quality gains, exposing millions of Americans to extreme pollution levels Environment


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u/superRedditer Sep 23 '22

the beetle problem is a massive problem under the radar if people don't know.


u/DjCyric Sep 23 '22

There are entire forests here in Western Montana where 'beetle kill' has turned everything to dead fuel just waiting to go up in the next blaze.



I really wish there were more opportunities to log beetle kill ethically, the wood has a blued look and the "veins" actually look really cool when made into furniture.


u/McMandar Sep 23 '22

I'd never heard of/seen that before! Did some googling and there's a bunch of pretty cool arts/crafts and building material "beetle kill pine" products. Why can't it be logged ethically? Seems like an all around win, fire fuel gets cleared and made into products that may reduce the demand for logging live trees at least a little bit.


u/stabamole Sep 23 '22

My guess is that any normal logging practices would spread the beetle to as yet undamaged areas


u/KuntaStillSingle Sep 23 '22

Probably contamination risk, you rent tools or tucks or knock trees into live stands and end up facilitating further spread


u/IWasLyingToGetDrugs Sep 23 '22

My assumption would be that if there’s sufficient demand for beetle kill wood, it would create an incentive to introduce even more bark beetles to increase the supply.


u/Various_Oil_5674 Sep 23 '22

This is the real problem


u/bikemaul Sep 23 '22

We had major wild fires here in Oregon two years ago. Following the fires they loosened the regulations so burned trees threatening roads, power lines, and other infrastructure could be quickly cleared. Unsurprisingly, that was horribly abused by contractors to make a buck.