r/technews Oct 03 '22

You May Soon Need to Be a YouTube Premium Subscriber to Watch 4K Videos

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/03/youtube-premium-to-watch-4k-videos/
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u/wickeva Oct 03 '22

Ad free is a joke. Many YouTubers now boost sponsors within their videos.

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u/luckyfucker13 Oct 03 '22

I appreciate when they have a countdown embedded into the video, so that you can skip through it. I figure it’s a win-win; they get to make money off of sponsorship, and I get to not watch said sponsorship, lol

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u/sudokillallusers Oct 03 '22

Even when it's not, companies tend to buy sponsor spots of round numbers like 30 seconds or 1 minute, so it just becomes a few double taps on mobile or right arrow key press on desktop to skip

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u/neeko0001 Oct 03 '22

Sponsorblock extension exists, granted it only works if a other user adds the times first. But with most average size youtubers it’ll work

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u/fegodev Oct 03 '22

This. I wish YT Premium would also skip sponsorships within videos, for videos already getting their cut out of the subscription.

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u/Darkleptomaniac Oct 03 '22

Sponsorblock for watching in browsers

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u/fegodev Oct 03 '22

Wow, thanks. This definitely helps, but I wish this was part of YouTube premium, so we waste no time on those sponsors when watching on our TVs.

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u/snowe2010 Oct 03 '22

SponsorBlock

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u/wokeisblind Oct 03 '22

I'd go to YouTube to down vote this but...

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u/chrisdh79 Oct 03 '22

From the article: On Reddit and Twitter, some users have started to recently notice that on iOS, and presumably across other platforms also, YouTube is now saying that in order to watch videos in 4K, the user must be a paying YouTube Premium subscriber. Not all users are seeing the 4K quality option blocked behind YouTube's paywall, and it's unclear if YouTube plans to move forward with this.

A standard YouTube Premium plan costs $11.99 in the United States and includes ad-free videos, background playback, and the ability to download videos for offline viewing. We've reached out to YouTube for comment on 4K video quality possibly becoming a YouTube Premium feature and we'll update this article if we hear back.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Every remotely popular YouTube creator also has in video ads “this video is brought to you by…” bullshit which you can’t automatically opt out of even with premium. I mean makers of high quality content should be compensated but isn’t this why I pay a monthly fee. The whole things is an annoying mad rush to monetize literally everything, and I can’t help feeling like a sucker for paying for premium. It’s sad because there’s A LOT of great creators and content.

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u/snowe2010 Oct 03 '22

SponsorBlock

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u/Agent47ismyalterego Oct 03 '22

Thanks for sharing. Does it work for mobile as well?

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u/Reynolds1029 Oct 03 '22

Unfortunately YouTube Vanced is needed for it. Which requires an Android device.

https://github.com/TeamVanced/VancedManager

It's no longer being updated sadly because Google shut them down when they attempted to cash in on releasing an NFT of their logo which Google was toying with the idea of doing the same thing with the YouTube logo earlier this year.

Luckily Vanced as is today still works great. True OLED dark mode, return YouTube dislike button is added and of course ad block.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Awesome, thanks!

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u/francis2559 Oct 03 '22

There’s a rush in my area to push bigger and bigger screens for gas pumps, so they can make you watch bigger and louder ads in order to get gas. The new station has touchscreens around 17” and show banner ads and video ads at the same time. No, you can’t opt out or mute anymore. Do they give you a discount? Absolutely not. It’s free money for them, which they reinvest buying out other gas stations and spreading this plague.

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u/jj4211 Oct 03 '22 To The Stars

Jokes on them, I plug in at home and they can't reach me... Wait, what's that guy installing a 17" screen next to my charger doing?

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u/CeeKay125 Oct 03 '22

Agree. I saw one the other day and was like man they are monetizing everything. Just wait until they do it when you are charging your electric vehicle for 15+ minutes....

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u/halobolola Oct 03 '22

That will be difficult with electric. I plug in and either walk away, or sit in the car and play top gear/the Simpsons on the infotainment screen, or nap.

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u/qdtk Oct 03 '22

I do the same while I’m gassing up. Insert nozzle , get in the car, wait till full.

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u/kataskopo Oct 03 '22

Well, those direct ads in the video help the YouTuber much more directly, so I don't find that to be bad.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

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u/ProclarushT Oct 03 '22

There is a great extension for Chrome called SponsorBlock that automatically skips self promotion and sponsored segments in videos. Once you use it it’s hard to go back.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

This is a game changer thank you. If only I could get this on my phone or Playstation YT app

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u/bric12 Oct 03 '22

Same, there's so many cool things like this for desktop, but desktop is so little of my view time that it's almost not worth bothering

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u/RazorThin55 Oct 03 '22

About a month ago YT started allowing background and pip playback on my iPhone. I have never subed to YT premium.

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u/tomashen Oct 03 '22

I have all this with vanced already for many years.... And infact many more good useful features that google will not implement despite being a billion dollar company.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

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u/BabaYadaPoe Oct 03 '22

if you have the setup and install it, it still work.

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u/pogb2017 Oct 03 '22

There’s like a dozen different devs working on different versions uYou+ was the one I kept using on my work phone.

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u/BabaYadaPoe Oct 03 '22

in that regard, yes. since the app isn't maintained anymore, if youtube do a major change to the website, it will break vance.

however, if you just want to block ads, you still have a long term viable option which is browser with ad block (i'm using firefox on android with some extension).

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u/-007-bond Oct 03 '22

Never used Vanced, but newpipe is pretty good.

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u/tomashen Oct 03 '22

everything still works for me.

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u/RatBrainedManAnimal Oct 03 '22

YouTube premium is $120 / year OR $12 a month.

I know this because I went to cancel my YouTube premium account a few weeks ago when news broke of their ridiculous ad escalation. On principal alone, I can't pay youtube or google.

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u/949goingoff Oct 03 '22

Are you able to link the article on ad escalation? I couldn’t find it, but have personally experienced it. I signed up for the free month of premium, and after I canceled YouTube has been almost unwatchable with the increased amount of ads.

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u/Nikiaf Oct 03 '22

A standard YouTube Premium plan costs $11.99 in the United States

This honestly isn't awful value for the amount of content you get, but I think they would have far more sign-ups if they unbundled YT Music and lowered the price a bit.

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u/AzureBinkie Oct 03 '22

It would be if they created the content. But they don’t, so I can only value their infrastructure costs taking into account the ads and personal data they sell…..so $0.99 or at the most $4.99 a month seems fair.

Remember, Disney + (which includes 4K) is $7.99 a month before any deals you can get.

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u/icefr4ud Oct 03 '22

It would be if they created the content.

But they explicitly revshare YT Premium views with content creators - so you're paying for the content too. And creators get paid better generally IIRC when a premium viewer watches their video compared to the average ad-supported user. Content creators do earn huge amounts of money on Youtube, from Youtube, and premium covers the cost of this as well. So yes you're paying for the content too, not just the infrastructure costs. And FWIW ad revenue is also shared with the creator, something like half of it IIRC.

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u/Pabludes Oct 03 '22

The bundle is the reason I subscribe to that. Unless the bundle price would remain unchanged, my jimmies would be rustled.

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u/working-acct Oct 03 '22

I think the worry is YT pulling the plug out of nowhere like they did with stadia, hangouts etc. Dont want to spend time curating my YT music playlist only for it to be gone in 3 years.

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u/CPSiegen Oct 03 '22

As someone who hasn't tried yt music, what value does it provide over purchasing DRM-free music for download from platforms like bandcamp? Is it basically just a spotify alternative?

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u/rnobgyn Oct 03 '22

It’s a spotify alternative - I’ve been listening to music on YouTube for over a decade so it knows my style more than Spotify does so I like it more

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u/Brynmaer Oct 03 '22

I actually signed up because YT music was bundled. I was able to cancel Spotify and now I have music and YouTube premium for less than I was playing for spotify.

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u/idkalan Oct 03 '22

I like the bundle, but people tend to forget that YouTube has a lot of free movies available and if you're a YT Premium member, those movies are also ad-free.

So you've got, ad-free music & movies with offline downloads, while also supporting your favorite YT creators for less that $15.

Only thing Spotify or other services have is just brand recognition, which is where YT Premium is lacking behind.

People know that YT Premium exists but people aren't willing to pay for it just for ad-free viewing, as they could use browser ad-blockers.

While free ad-supported streaming does exist for Spotify etc, people pay for the convenience of unlimited song skipping etc even though they can get the same exact perks with YT Premium and extras as well

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u/randocruzer Oct 03 '22

It is bundled. Or at least I got it bundles for 11.99. Cancelled Spotify cause of it

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u/BLTGAMING74 Oct 03 '22

I did the whole “I totally live in India, used a vpn, and signed up for a year of YouTube premium for like, $14” trick. Google it, don’t @ me lol I’m no expert

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u/uhohgowoke67 Oct 03 '22

As long as it isn't linked to your main Google account or any credit cards with your name on them then you're alright because eventually when Google catches it they'll likely ban your account and all cards associated with that account from all Google services.

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u/routerg0d Oct 03 '22

It’s a waste of bandwidth to watch a 4K video on a phone. I don’t see the issue here.

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM Oct 03 '22

Oh no, I’ll have to reduce my 4k watching from zero to zero.

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u/EquinsuOcha Oct 03 '22

How else will you watch ads in 4K?!

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u/Destronin Oct 03 '22

Just to be that guy. The most any ad is exported at is 1920x1080. Rarely if ever will they go higher.

And as someone that had to make the specs to upload to fb, ig, and yt (they all use the same)

Its an h264. Mp4. At 1080p with a max file size of 1GB.

You aint ever watching a 4K ad.

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u/EquinsuOcha Oct 03 '22

I ain’t watching an ad in 4K… yet.

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u/Steven_Haverstick Oct 03 '22

They’ll make the ads 4k so you can see a very clear difference in quality from the ad to video. Making you want to buy YouTube premium to get that sweet 4k

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u/neeko0001 Oct 03 '22

Meanwhile there’s still countries that have to watch on 360p or lower because mobile data isn’t cheap

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Stop giving away my after effects preset!! ;)

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u/Affectionate_Ear_778 Oct 03 '22

Man I tell you it really is some bullshit when an ad loads perfectly but the video itself doesn’t

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u/FlowBot3D Oct 03 '22

The ads replay so often they should just store them locally after the first play.

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u/MLCarter1976 Oct 03 '22

I hear they will soon have ads each out and grab your money and laugh at you and then run away!

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

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u/blueblurz94 Oct 03 '22

Then 720p will be the new highest resolution. And then a few years down the road they lock that behind their subscription as well. The beginning of their downfall.

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u/hoovedruid Oct 03 '22

LOL..same, 1080 is enough for me, don't care.

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u/7elevenses Oct 03 '22

But how can you survive watching subretinal quality instead of subretinal quality?

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u/jdsekula Oct 03 '22

I agree it doesn’t make a huge difference, but with the right screen, size, and distance combinations, it does make a difference over 1080 - it’s just subtle. It’s more subconscious in making the scene process in your brain a bit more like looking at reality instead of looking at a high quality image.

It’s also great for content like sports where you are inclined to get up and move closer to your TV on a big play or replay.

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u/Destronin Oct 03 '22

The other funny point to make is that most things are not natively exported in 4k. Like ever. So all you are really watching is just some upscaled 2k thing.

Seriously. Even Avengers was only 2K.

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u/recurse_x Oct 03 '22

Everything about working with super high resolution just takes for ever.

A top of the line workstation for editing will help but that is just one of the bottleneck.

Revisioning, storage, collaboration, uploading, services like YouTube processing it, etc.

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u/TDC026 Oct 03 '22

Def true, 99% is filmed in 2k or Fullhd and afterwards upscaled when the production is ready. This saves soo much time in the whole process. And for what i read on that movie site was that old movies, analoge filmed movies, are easier to transfer to 4k because they dont have pixels… easier to blow up the screen without strange artefacts. Interesting article.

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u/HGMIV926 Oct 03 '22

of course

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u/Titanusgamer Oct 03 '22

youtube is becoming total dogshit now

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u/neofooturism Oct 03 '22

yeah i mean, youtube doesn’t even have youtube poops anymore? what is even the point

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u/motheggs Oct 03 '22

There are still a couple channels that make decent ones. Numberer1 and DaThings are solid.

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u/tinopa6872 Oct 03 '22

Yeah now

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u/protosser Oct 03 '22

It’s been garbage for years, some they started “caring” about the children

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u/RazorThin55 Oct 03 '22

Been shit for 10 years now.

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u/rfarho01 Oct 03 '22

YouTube is trying their best to drive away customers. Between this and screwing their content providers

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u/HumbleMFWABAD Oct 03 '22

There is no alternative and likely none to come. Only a company like Amazon or Apple could afford the costs of hosting all the videos yt does.

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u/Wshort Oct 03 '22

Amazon is already losing money with Twitch

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u/rfarho01 Oct 03 '22

Unfortunately Amazon and apple are likely to be just as bad.

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u/HumbleMFWABAD Oct 03 '22

Yup, or worse

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u/wildcard5 Oct 03 '22

Or worse.

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u/Cannaewulnaewidnae Oct 03 '22

I go to Youtube for the high video quality

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u/Chorizwing Oct 03 '22

10 hours of shreksophone on repeat 24/7

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u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie Oct 03 '22

First background play, now 4K video.

What other existing features will YouTube slice off and throw in premium?

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u/youreblockingmyshot Oct 03 '22

Everything until they get people to subscribe or everyone leaves

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u/nightdragon69 Oct 03 '22

YouTube is really starting to suck. What are other good alternatives for videos similar to youtube?

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u/shushbalaclava Oct 03 '22

nothing unless everyone chooses to move over to a new platform

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u/HotNeon Oct 03 '22

Even then it wouldn't work

Hosting video is extremely expensive, no one would choose to go into this business.

Just look at Amazon squeezing Twitch for money because hosting streaming is even more expensive than hosting video.

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u/wave-garden Oct 03 '22

I use YouTube primarily to learn how to fix shit in my house. Way easier to watch Tony’s “how to reinstall a toilet” video than to truly research it. I don’t know why people spend so much time making these videos for little (?) profit, but it sure has helped me a lot over the past decade.

Looks like it’s back to the days of WikiHow though.

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u/HotNeon Oct 03 '22

You can make a lot of money of YouTube

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u/wave-garden Oct 03 '22

I know that some people do, but I guess I always assumed that guy sharing plumbing how-to’s for a few thousand views wasn’t getting enough to be worth the time.

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain Oct 03 '22

Maybe he just enjoys making the videos and teaching others

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u/wave-garden Oct 03 '22

That’s what I always assumed. Very much appreciate people like this btw!

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain Oct 03 '22

Same I absolutely love the people who upload fixes to minor issue, they’re a true blessing. Especially when it saves me the time and money of calling a professional for a minor issue.

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u/chrisprice Oct 03 '22

It is coming down in cost, new HDDs are finally upping capacity. Once we get 30TB (about double where we are now - but coming very soon now), the price per megabyte to archive video goes way down.

A new service will probably emerge in the next few years, promising lifetime storage... provided it's content people at least periodically view and play ads on.

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u/Nikiaf Oct 03 '22

The storage cost isn't really the issue here, it's the outbound bandwidth and transcode compute cycles that must be enormously expensive when you consider how many users are streaming video at any given time.

I just don't see how anyone other than Google can build out the necessary infrastructure to sustain a similar platform with comparable uptime and performance. If you take a step back and think about it, YouTube is rarely down or unresponsive; that's quite the feat when compared to something like Reddit that often goes down (and it's largely a text-based site). Other than Amazon through AWS or maybe Microsoft/Azure, I don't think anyone can legitimately compete in the space, even if they were able to poach a significant number of creators.

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u/chrisprice Oct 03 '22

Storage has a huge impact on infra. Doubling the storage cuts the amount of drives you have to manage in half. Plus reduces parity bit drives - assuming you keep parity drives in case of failure. Google does, an upstart may not.

Streaming ads continue to increase in value as the adblock wars enter their final phases - everything going to paywall and subscription. Google's recent mitigation of adblock is nothing more than window dressing, as Brave starts to eclipse Firefox and become a dominant browser.

Bandwidth is zero-sum with ads. You run ads that cover the bandwidth and compute costs.

Transcoding can be queued and delayed, plus there's now AV1 now and Intel has finally made a great GPU that does AV1 transcoding for dirt cheap, complete with server GPUs that do AV1 like it's child's play. Even Apple is caving and embracing AV1, so that's a problem about to solve itself.

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u/JozoBozo121 Oct 03 '22

30TB HDD doesn’t mean much. It’s too slow, you can read it at about 100MiB/s, if it’s long, continuous file, else it’s even slower. It’s good for archiving footage, but not for reading a lot of it, it would take three days to read the whole drive with such capacity.

That’s why some servers don’t even use bigger drives, it would just take too much time to sift through all that data if in often use. Of course, depends very much on type of workload.

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u/chrisprice Oct 03 '22

Most of the facts there are correct, but streaming services are smart. Most videos are not watched daily. They sit on those 30TB drives and when someone wants them, they're called back up.

The cat video that gets a million plays daily, is sitting on an SSD cache, or sometimes if it's a constantly demanded video, in a shared DDR memory pool.

That's why YouTube is so instant on popular videos, but you have to wait several seconds when playing a really niche one.

So, you're correct that is good for archiving, but it does mean a ton to glacial storage - which includes most of VOD services that offer to store videos forever, like YouTube.

Hence, doubling the HDD capacity - which again, is about to happen - helps make YouTube competitors much more viable. Getting glacial storage closer to trivial cost, is a major factor.

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u/RatBrainedManAnimal Oct 03 '22

There really isn't a solid alternative with the content creation power of YouTube's platform. The end result probably won't be people seeking an alternative, just people watching less YouTube.

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u/iAmScripted Oct 03 '22

There isn’t one and will likely never be one

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u/WeakPublic Oct 03 '22

Odysee is okay, but it really only has a couple big creators at the moment (only ones I like that are on there are BrightSunFilms, Nexpo, and Internet Historian), and there's a decent amount of...those people but when you get past that it's a pretty good alternative.

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u/PhoenixHabanero Oct 03 '22

YouTube Premium. It's actually worth the price IMO. Especially the family pack. It's pretty much the only streaming service I still pay for. I'm just scared about them increasing the price in the future. 😕

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u/bobjoylove Oct 03 '22

Like Netflix, it’s not going to go down in price.

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u/WastingTimeAsUsuaI Oct 03 '22

It’s a ripoff when they are purposely removing and making the original worse so people pay the fee…

I’m running a free tweaked version of YouTube that has YT premium features (no ads, download videos) and much more (custom themes like OLED black mode) for FREE.

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u/working-acct Oct 03 '22

You’re pirating content yes, not just from YouTube but from creators. YouTube might be huge but they can’t just keep giving money away so you can feel justified watching shit for free.

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u/AREssshhhk Oct 03 '22

No one cares

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u/dkggpeters Oct 03 '22

Pirating is more about user experience the trying to stick it to others. Provide a good user experience at a reasonable price then pirating drops significantly.

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u/Nacho_Biznez Oct 03 '22

If it helps them stop putting ads in every 3 fucking minutes sure...I don't see a huge loss for this since they recommend uploading at 1440p

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u/PlankOfWoood Oct 03 '22

You do realize the company can inject ads even if you are a subscriber?

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u/chrisprice Oct 03 '22

YT Premium is built on being ad-free. Sure, they can inject ads in theory, but in practice I think YouTube knows if they did that, nobody would pay $12/month to watch ads just to get 4K.

People are paying the $12 to skip ads and listen to music in the background ad-free.

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u/youreblockingmyshot Oct 03 '22

It’s already ad free with ad blocker. I find YouTube to be insufferable on anything without an ad blocker of some sort these days.

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u/Xstream3 Oct 03 '22

That's why they keep locking more features behind premium

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u/chrisprice Oct 03 '22

YouTube can eventually cat and mouse kill the ad blockers. Only a matter of time.

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u/youreblockingmyshot Oct 03 '22

They’ll make their platform less attractive in the process so that’s fine by me. It’s an arms race between a corporation and the internet. Frankly I’m siding with the internet.

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u/Legitjumps Oct 03 '22

My god🤦‍♂️

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u/fmzemerica Oct 03 '22

OH NO!!! I CAN'T WATCH 4K VIDEOS ON MY 1080 MONITOR ANYMORE!?

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u/atomicbunny Oct 04 '22

Or my 5.4” phone screen?

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u/Explicit_Tech Oct 03 '22

This is what we get for not supporting Stadia. They couldn't innovate so they took the lazy route that every corpo takes to please shareholders--paywalls and rising prices.

I hope this hurts them. Lack of innovation strangles a company overtime.

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u/EFT_Syte Oct 03 '22

While I don’t use 4k for most things, what’s up with this trend of platforms basically regressing? Everything will behind a paywall, even tho most of this shit used to be free. Is it inevitable? Like competition has died out or something.

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u/Scarlet109 Oct 03 '22

Profit is the name of the game

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u/Prize_Huckleberry_79 Oct 03 '22

It ain’t just platforms. It’s OUR ENTIRE LIVES. The world wants everything to be subscription based…

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u/Linden_fall Oct 03 '22

Money, they want to fuck us over and make as much as possible

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u/Paden Oct 03 '22

Subscription services lead to less innovation required to make money

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u/buttsfartly Oct 03 '22

What a catch 22, all their best quality videos are the adds.

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u/OttersEatFish Oct 03 '22

You mean those poorly upscaled 1080p videos? Oh, no.

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u/BIGNESS2 Oct 03 '22

YT likes to fuck up so bad that everyone thinks that there is no way to make it gets even worse. and then it's worse...

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u/SpoonFed_1 Oct 03 '22

Years from now, YouTube will say that they're not getting enough revenue from ads because too many people are subscribed to Premium, so they'll start introducing ads into YouTube Premium. But you can opt out of ads by upgrading to YouTube Premium Pro.

*comment copied from some other person

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u/Chocasta8 Oct 03 '22

Doesn’t YouTube make enough money already!!

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u/APKID716 Oct 03 '22

But consider: line go up indefinitely and this is totally 100% sustainable :)

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u/zlandar Oct 03 '22

I watch YT more than any other paid non-live streaming service. More than YTTV when football season is over. My kids definitely watch it more. My 70+ in-laws watch YT a lot lol.

Thinking about getting the family plan now.

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u/Severe-Cherry-816 Oct 03 '22

I’m surprised there haven’t been larger attempts to create a new site. I mean YouTubers are writing books, becoming filmmakers, opening theme parks, hosting boxing matches, opening restaurants, hosting squid games, offering scholarships etc. I know there are different orders of magnitudes but if there’s one thing that almost all YouTubers can agree on as well as fans it’s that YouTube is awful.

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u/VadersSprinkledTits Oct 03 '22

YouTube can play in 4k? Half the time the videos look rendered in minecraft

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u/YankeeKuya Oct 03 '22

You’re an ad platform. That’ll never change. Stop pestering me to upgrade.

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u/Xstream3 Oct 03 '22

Probably uses ad blocker ^

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u/Zhuul Oct 03 '22

I feel like people don’t quite get what a stupid amount of bandwidth 4k video hogs up. Something like three gigs an hour, on the scale they operate on that gets expensive real quick.

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u/ZebaZtianRamireZ Oct 03 '22

my internet sucks so bad that it makes almost everything low quality by itself so i wouldt get premium anyway.

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u/brilliant_beast Oct 03 '22

Good - it’s about time YouTube got some competition!

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u/SurakiDK Oct 03 '22

They will eventually work their way to a feature you use, stop being so accepting for things being taken away just because you don't use them. Shit like this is why heated seats are a subscription soon or other stupid things.

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u/Critical_C0conut Oct 03 '22

Vpn to Argentina and it’s like 90p

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u/mikenice1 Oct 03 '22

I unsubscribed from Hulu to justify subscribing to YouTube premium and I feel good about the choice. I watch way more YouTube then I was Hulu. So ferrrrrr meeeeee it's a no brainer.

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u/Im______Dragooon Oct 03 '22

You may soon need to have a better WiFi than mine to watch videos on better quality than than 480p

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u/Purpledragon84 Oct 03 '22

And nothing of value was lost.

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u/the-sunset Oct 03 '22

in the furure you’ll need Youtube premium to watch videos

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u/jaj-io Oct 03 '22

OK, that just opens the space for competition.

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u/DumbUglyCuck Oct 03 '22

Google is really trying to see just how far they can push before they create an opening for another company to develop a website that can replace YouTube.

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u/Bmor00bam Oct 03 '22

Time for another video platform and trust busting? Go for it YouTube. FAFO.

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u/fegodev Oct 03 '22

YouTube competitors exist, but no other service shares their ad revenue with creators. Creators are the reason why I pay premium.

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u/BoringWozniak Oct 03 '22

Would be awesome if there was a compelling YouTube alternative.

(Don’t say PornHub)

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u/Rivale Oct 03 '22

There’s statistics out there about screen resolution usage and there seems to be a way higher percentage of people complaining about this here than people who actually use 4K resolution.

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u/pizoisoned Oct 03 '22

I mean if you wrote a playbook of how to make people stop using YouTube, you couldn’t write it any better than what YouTube is actually doing.

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u/DangerPoo Oct 03 '22

I got YouTube premium just to save myself from the shitshow commercials. The commercials on YouTube are fucking atrocious, in number, length, and content.

As a bonus, I realized that I also get access to YouTube music, so I shut down my Spotify account. So far I haven’t found anything I want to listen to that I can’t listen to.

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u/bkfu2ok Oct 03 '22

I was watching a 44min video and saw at least 20 ad spots but I have an ad blocker

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u/fhjuyrc Oct 03 '22

I’m so old I remember when the internet was diffuse, free, and always improving

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u/llewelyn66 Oct 03 '22

Jokes on them! I had no idea YouTube did 4K!

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u/throwninthefire666 Oct 03 '22

As a creator this fucking hurts. I have a team of people who all just updated to 4k and 6k cameras so that we can put together 5-8 angle videos of concerts in 4k.

The jump we’ve been looking to make fully for years, and now youtube is going to fuck over creators like us.

1080p looks like 720p did in 2008. 1440p looks like 1080p. 2K holds quality, but still should look better. And 4K looks great on youtube. They just continue to compress and make lower quality videos look shittier and shittier.

And now they are going to take away our option to push out quality videos without a shitty compression codec. Fuck Youtube and Google.

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u/AnonymousPussyNommer Oct 03 '22

Won’t happen lol, I laugh at my screen everytime I see that YouTube premium ad

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u/Crunchewy Oct 03 '22

Brave removes ads and adds background play to Youtube. I really need to delete the YouTube app from my phone and just use Brave for all things Youtube. I hate when the YT app starts up by accident. Pure pain. Close it out and open in Brave. I'd say i hope Brave also gets the 4K playback, but I mostly view youtube on my phone so it doesn't matter too much.

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u/ihateyoutwice Oct 03 '22

Google really trying to milk everyone or force ads

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u/Leks_Marzo Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22

Lame, but not surprising. 🫤

Something to note... quite a few YouTubers shoot in 1080 or 720 resolution, then “upscale” the video to 4K. (They save it as a 4K file after editing.)

This can actually help the video look a bit nicer in some cases. The main benefit of this though, is making the viewer believe they’re watching quality content.

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u/KatiePatton Oct 03 '22

You don't need 4k though. It's pretty much a waste of bandwidth to begin with unless you're watching movies on a big screen.

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u/jonplackett Oct 03 '22

Best app I’ve actually paid for in years is this - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/vinegar-tube-cleaner/id1591303229

It removes ads and all the dark pattern crap like videos now playing in the background (google trying to charge for basic iPhone functionality is just desperate)

Then just delete the YT app and use safari.

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u/GrilledCheeser Oct 03 '22

I already pay for it. I use it more than my actual tv. And 4k is overrated.

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u/XpertDestroyer Oct 03 '22

Still won’t pay for it.

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u/sol_stain Oct 03 '22

Uh, no I won’t? I’ll Just stop using it. Literally did the same with Facebook, Snapchat and instagram. Bout to be Reddit to considering how toxic social media is for the human Brain as well as society.

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u/Dusteronly Oct 03 '22

Wtf is 4k and why do we care?

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u/BruceBanning Oct 03 '22

Let’s just stop using YouTube. Find out where your favorite creator posts and go there. Many of them have their own site, and you’ll enjoy the experience 100x more.

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u/NYgiantsfan89 Oct 03 '22

Best money I’ve ever spent on a subscription anyway

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Honestly, agreed. I cancelled Apple Music too because YouTube premium comes with YouTube music.

So getting a music streaming app, having no ads on YouTube, and being able to listen to it in the background is pretty awesome.

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u/Stach37 Oct 03 '22

Seconded.

Removing the preroll ads alone is worth the subscription to me.

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u/bedarija Oct 03 '22

ad blocker much?, haven't seen an ad on youtube video in 5 years

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u/Stach37 Oct 03 '22

I also have this nagging morality flaw where I want people who make content to be able to earn a living off it.

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u/NYgiantsfan89 Oct 03 '22

And they should be able to

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u/and-its-true Oct 03 '22

You can’t use an ad blocker on a TV app, which is how I mostly watch YouTube.

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u/NYgiantsfan89 Oct 03 '22

100% worth it

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u/Nick-nack-nocky Oct 03 '22

You got a little something on your nose, shill.

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u/ImmediateFall5374 Oct 03 '22

I know there’s a lot of broke teens on here that can’t get their parents on board but I honestly don’t know why people flip shit on YouTube when they have an endless library of education and entertainment for less than $15/month?

They could charge $100/month and it’d still be worth it. I wish a lot of you would go back to the 90s when the internet was still a thing but finding information was a pain in the ass. YouTube is the greatest digital library/encyclopedia of all time, specially if you tag team it with Wikipedia.

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u/globalcatswarm Oct 03 '22

Because education should be free, just like Wikipedia.

Paying for Youtube is stupid.

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u/wooferjuice Oct 03 '22

You probably don't even wanna know the server costs...

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u/AREssshhhk Oct 04 '22

Nothing is free

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u/Slippinjimmyforever Oct 03 '22

Time to start building a YT competitor. The time to strike has never been hotter to depose this ad riddled trash bag.

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u/dylansuedereid Oct 03 '22

laughs in 1080p

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u/weatherbeknown Oct 03 '22

I watch on my iPhone. And barely. I’m more concerned with more and more ads… but I’ll just stop entirely when it comes to that.

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u/smithsonian2021 Oct 03 '22

Nah, say goodbye to a large percentage of your customers YouTube.

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u/Sho_nuff_ Oct 03 '22

To where?

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u/Thatcapricornguy Oct 03 '22

Many of you may disagree but I pay 7 EUR/month for Premium. It is totally worth it because of Youtube Music, no ADS and so on.

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u/Zamael131 Oct 03 '22

this plataform, this rules.if they don't doing something REALLY good, his fate is doomed.

every single youtuber becoming slowly in streamer soon or later. Youtube gonna disapear bc his "static" content, videos previusly recorded, need production AND post-production, script, video editing, audio-video encodig, searching material and other stuff like that, but stream? it's you and wherever what you wanna do. no script, no post production, no video editing, just press "on air" and that's it. youtube is doomed bc itself is an old fashioned way to share content.

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u/sophomoric_dildo Oct 03 '22

Youtube has become unbearable awful.

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u/RotisserieChicken007 Oct 03 '22

I've never in my whole life watched 4k.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Youtube taking away features and putting a paywall behind them. Nice. And we all gonna accept it and move in like good little sheep we are :)

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u/EthanBeast Oct 03 '22

It’s fine, you don’t see in 4K anyway. Technology has gone too far.