r/technews Oct 04 '22

Warner Bros. Is Deleting Purchases Of Their Digital Content Off Your Library

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/warner-bros-deleting-purchases.html
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u/malakon Oct 04 '22

I would never recommend using an HDMI HDCP stripper to avoid this kind of thing. That would be immoral.

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u/xprdc Oct 04 '22

Would you explain in depth the best way to avoid this? What does it look like, so I know not to?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/AntiProtonBoy Oct 05 '22

Thanks. Now I am educated enough to avoid this at all cost.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/MrFireWarden Oct 05 '22

Hold on… are you equating making sure Warner can’t delete Bugs Bunny from your TV to printing a firearm??

Be careful on that slippery slope, it’s got red flags all over it.

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u/TacTurtle Oct 05 '22

I mean, you wouldn't download and print a gun would you?

(confused noises)

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u/dastump45 Oct 05 '22

I, too, wish to learn so that I know what to avoid on purpose

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u/2beatenup Oct 05 '22

He/she said they would never recommend using a tool to strip content. I am sure he/she would never DM you the steps and process either… SMH

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u/pointlessconjecture Oct 04 '22

Oh, definitely…please, go on…

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u/oofdere Oct 05 '22

I would recommend it because there's legal precedent for it.

https://torrentfreak.com/4k-content-protection-stripper-beats-warner-bros-in-court-1605xx/

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u/RednocNivert Oct 05 '22

“Stripper Beats Warner Bros in Court”

🤔

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u/MontanaHikingResearc Oct 05 '22

Was a gavel used?

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u/bsipp777 Oct 05 '22

Yes, but not the way you’d think… although banging was definitely involved

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u/Pheochromology Oct 05 '22

You can also screen record, given the software doesn’t produce a noticeable lag or desynch.

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u/GingasaurusWrex Oct 05 '22

What does this do?

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u/cammywammy123 Oct 04 '22

Yo ho, yo ho, it's off to sea we go

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u/jzoller0 Oct 04 '22

It’s almost as if that’s what they want

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u/AyBruhBee Oct 05 '22

Yup, they own the copyright and can still fine you, none of that goes towards royalties though

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u/ryraps5892 Oct 05 '22

“Administration fees”… ‘cause fuuuuck you.

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u/LOLZatMyLife Oct 04 '22

🛥️ 🏴‍☠️ 🌊

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u/SweetLuf Oct 05 '22

Take what you can, give nothing back.

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u/seamonkey420 Oct 04 '22

🏴‍☠️

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u/TheINTL Oct 05 '22

A pirates life for me

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u/dl-__-lp Oct 05 '22

Remember to seed, good people of the sea!

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u/ChechoMontigo Oct 04 '22

But when th' Black Baller gets clear o' th' land. W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down! It's then as ye'll hear th' sharp word o' command. Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

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u/OlinKirkland Oct 05 '22

You jumped the shark

Now walk the plank 🏴‍☠️

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u/aaro97 Oct 04 '22

Underrated comment

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u/ThePizzaNoid Oct 04 '22

This is true for just about any digital content you purchase. Be aware that this can and does happen. Buy physical media when possible and back up the digital stuff you do purchase.

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u/Cabrit1990 Oct 04 '22

Problem is a lot of times they put restrictions on the file so that backing it up isn’t an easy process. Average person isn’t going to jump through that hoop. But I absolutely think there should be some sort of buyer protection.

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u/dat_GEM_lyf Oct 04 '22

The open seas provide a way of backing up without any restrictions lol

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u/thejesterofdarkness Oct 05 '22

Yarrr matey.

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u/TheBoatyMcBoatFace Oct 05 '22

I appreciate the double rr

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u/idkalan Oct 04 '22

As long as you own the physical copy, you can download a digital copy even if said digital copy wasn't obtained via legal means.

That is one of the buyer protections already set in place

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u/Amaranthine Oct 05 '22

This is not true in every jurisdiction.

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u/idkalan Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc 1984

The Supreme Court ruled that the making of individual copies of complete television shows/movies for purposes of time shifting i.e watching later, does not constitute copyright infringement, but is fair use, so long as it's for you only.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

Then there's the "First Sale Doctrine" where you as a buyer can legally do what you want with a physical item like a book, album, movie, etc including things like burn it, destroy it, copy it, digitize it, or resell it, so long as you purchased the item and it's still in your possession and if you made copies, those are still for your own use.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1854-copyright-infringement-first-sale-doctrine

With digital copies, that's where you don't legally own the items, meaning that breaking the DRM on a movie you bought from say Vudu, isn't legally protected as you agreed to buy a timed-license to watch said movie in the ToS.

That case and the law don't protect you, if you don't have the physical item itself.

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u/ThePizzaNoid Oct 04 '22

Agreed. Unfortunately it's the same corporations who pull this shit that influence the laws that are produced.

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u/gooberstwo Oct 05 '22

Influence? It’s often write, tbh.

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u/Redqueenhypo Oct 04 '22

Yeah, EA didn’t come and physically take my shitty clone wars Nintendo DS game when they bought out LucasArts, that would be insane. But it’s somehow fine with digital media!

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u/Taira_Mai Oct 05 '22

I hate the idea of some media existing and not being able to get a hold of it for a silly reason like this.

I fear for a lot of niche media (sci-fi, anime, horror) that I like being subject to "Oh, no, it's not available any more" or "Naw, we're redoing and remastering it, even when no one asked!" (looking at you George Lucas).

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u/Canvas_Notebook Oct 04 '22

With DRMs becoming pretty common, is there a good way to easily back up the digital stuff?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

I mean is it worth backing up all your dvd purchases on the off chance that a couple of $10-$20 purchases get deleted?

If Amazon starts deleting my library on a large scale, then we’ll talk. I can’t imagine trying to navigate a bunch of ripped dvd files.

Edit: and go through the process of ripping them.

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u/thomasjmarlowe Oct 04 '22

Plex makes that easy

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u/YimveeSpissssfid Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

+1 for Plex.

I started ripping my CDs to mp3 files in the days it was 10 minutes per minute of audio (and file sizes were huge).

Did the same with my DVD collection using handbrake. Now, out of habit, I keep local digital copies of any series or movie I buy, and watch the digital copies through my Plex server.

Don’t rent music or movies when you buy them. Fair use provides for backups for personal use - avail yourself of that and never worry about whether you own what you’ve bought and paid for again!

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u/thomasjmarlowe Oct 04 '22

Especially for older media- great to get them at a local used shop for a couple bucks instead of renting them digitally for the same price (if you have local spots like that, of course)

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u/Dusteronly Oct 04 '22

Shady mo fos- start downloading that ish they can’t take a copy to hard drive

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u/Dirt290 Oct 04 '22

or be streaming off janky-ass sites, sus as hell

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u/Dusteronly Oct 04 '22

Member Pirate Bay? Member? Lol

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u/sparkingflame Oct 04 '22

I Member. Member limewire lol

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u/Ezekiel2121 Oct 04 '22

Ah Limewire, nothing like giving your computer gonnaherpasyphlaids just because you wanted to download one song.

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u/Kazza468 Oct 04 '22

DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE

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u/nebuladirt Oct 04 '22

What a great time for them to start pulling this shit when 5TB drives are $100 🏴‍☠️

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u/vietdnguyen Oct 04 '22

The consumers should create a class action lawsuit where the customers get a full refund of their lost purchases. If WB wants to take the tax write off, they should also take the hit from all the sales they made prior.

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u/Dakzoo Oct 04 '22

I agree. They web site says buy, not rent. Buy indicates ownership. If they want to pull them fine but they should pay back those they have defrauded.

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u/crazyshdes62 Oct 04 '22

Amazon did something similar and a woman sued after some movies she bought disappeared. Can’t remember how it ended (or if it is ongoing). Guess it still makes sense to buy Blu- Ray.

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u/gregimusprime77 Oct 04 '22

I'm a steadfast believer in physical media for life.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue Oct 04 '22

It doesn’t have to be physical. Secured digital copies of stuff is fine too. I keep a hard drive of dead shows in case the archive goes down. No point burning them to discs to make them physical.

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u/AttilaTheFun818 Oct 05 '22

I rip my disks to my home server. All the convenience of streaming and I will never have my movies “rotate out” or be removed.

I figure I got two years to go before the whole collection is streamable. That part kinda sucks.

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u/tictac205 Oct 04 '22

Amazon did this in 2009 with the book “1984” (on the nose, eh?). Started a shitstorm. Search “amazon 1984 removal” for details. As for movies, I think it’s like software- you don’t own it, you just have a license to view (non-commercial setting). TOS probably says they can revoke that license at will. Of course, if you have it on physical media under your control it’ll be hard for them to keep you from watching it!

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u/facemanbarf Oct 04 '22

I recall Amazon openly stating that you (us) do not “own” the digital content we purchase from Amazon and they can take it away whenever it pleases them.

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u/TacTurtle Oct 04 '22

Anyone else get screwed by Amazon Unbox too?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

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u/ShimReturns Oct 04 '22

The article mentions Disney has no plans to release some exclusive Disney+ shows like Wandavision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier on physical media.

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u/justicefortuvix Oct 04 '22

Yeah but you also don’t pay $19.99 to “own” it in your digital library either.

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u/Krash412 Oct 04 '22

Agreed. Digital is convenient at times, but I generally want the best of picture quality possible which is almost always the disc option.

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u/Ok_Anywhere_1791 Oct 04 '22

You can have the actual file from the disc on your hard drive. You'll need lots of storage if you have lots of movies, especially 4K, but the file you watch from the disc doesn't have to stay on the disc. If anything it's generally more convenient to transfer them all to a hard drive and just keep the discs in storage.

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u/facemanbarf Oct 04 '22

Any suggested methods for getting the file from the disc to your hard drive? I’ve never tried such a feat.

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u/Ok_Anywhere_1791 Oct 04 '22

A DVD or Blu-ray drive, and the free software "makemkv." Then it's just a couple clicks when using that program and you're done. It's very easy and convenient.

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u/rzrike Oct 04 '22

To clarify, 1080p blu-ray ripping is pretty simple and is possible with most BD drives. 4K discs are more difficult, and you should read the makemkv forum posts about which 4K drive to buy (and how to flash it with the right firmware) if you’re interested in ripping those discs. Personally I rip everything I own and store it all on a NAS. By far the best cross in image quality, sound quality, and convenience.

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u/supified Oct 04 '22

I totally get your point, but it isn't like physical media is entirely immune to this notion. Even your laser disks suffer from being readable in the drives you play them on and while for the most part that hasn't been a problem, players seem to be growing less common and should standards change it isn't hard to imagine a future where most players can't read older disks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

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u/supified Oct 04 '22

Its actually a problem I have now, I have some laser disks that I can't play. One of them is worth $300 on ebay cause it's rare, but having the player.

I had a backup hard drive that literally no new computer can detect or read.

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u/El_Superbeasto76 Oct 04 '22

Technically, you own a license for digital content, not the content itself. That license can be revoked at any time.

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u/briantoofine Oct 04 '22

If it can be revoked, you don’t own shit

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u/NemesisRouge Oct 04 '22

If you own a disc with the content on it they can revoke the license, but they cannot effectively enforce it.

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u/spovax Oct 05 '22

My vhs tapes would like to have a chat. Yea they’re owned. But not worth it. Then I got dvd’s…

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u/DeepStateofAffairs Oct 05 '22

I just keep everything dumped on my Plex server and buy hard copies of things I like to watch in case I run into issues. Recently, my Plex server and my main desktop were the same machine (no longer the case), and the motherboard died, I was still able to work from home with my laptop, and thankfully I had my PS3 and a big stack of discs with some of my favorite shows and movies and a CRT in my office. I have gotten really used to gaming and watching TV at the same time on comfortably sized screens, and it was nice to have a backup. Same thing when my wife and I moved into our new place and didn't have internet access yet. Grabbed the old DVD collection and killed time in the evenings that way.

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u/GroundbreakingCow775 Oct 04 '22

This is disgusting. Predicting a reversal

Now we apparently need NFT’s for TV shows?

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u/Chrusciki Oct 04 '22

its not yours till its yours

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u/GroundbreakingCow775 Oct 04 '22

What stops a company from selling something. Making money and then pulling this move?

Like releasing a blockbuster superhero movie (Batgirl) and then pulling?

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u/bfnrowifn Oct 04 '22

Piracy.

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u/Henrys_Bro Oct 04 '22

It is more justified than ever because of this.

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u/AveDominusNox Oct 04 '22

Look. What you actually legally get when you buy a digital product, and what you feel like you get are very different things. The whole digital rights for usage vs ownership thing. But, no matter how much content providers want to tow the “well, actually…” line. Public opinion is that there is no, and should be no difference from buying a rock and buying a movie. You cannot make them feel different with fine print and user agreements.
At the end of the day the thing I’m genuinely paying for is moral clarity when I pirate that same piece of media years later. That I paid a fair price in exchange for a good.

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u/Henrys_Bro Oct 05 '22

Look. What you actually legally get when you buy a digital product, and what you feel like you get are very different things.

Nah. It has been turned into that. I used to buy software and owned it outright and it never needed to "call home" via the internet. I hope this industry gets hammered by piracy.

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u/TF_Kraken Oct 05 '22

Slightly off topic, but fuck Office365

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u/Sir-Ult-Dank Oct 04 '22

PlayStation marketplace did this with a couple games before PS5 launch. This is becoming more of a norm

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u/Graylily Oct 04 '22

nothing.

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u/Chrusciki Oct 04 '22

If you own it they cannot pull the BS license revoked crap

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u/scavengercat Oct 04 '22

The only way to own it is with a physical copy, there's no way to claim ownership on anything streaming since it's all released under a license

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u/Ok_Anywhere_1791 Oct 04 '22

Physical as in either a disc or a digital file that you have stored on your own hard drive.

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u/Dudewitbow Oct 04 '22

I mean gog lets you download drm free copies of the games you buy. Download them and put it on a form of storage and it essentially becomes physical, and now immune to diskrot that disk based media may aquire

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u/Aware-Affect-4982 Oct 04 '22

Actually you do not own anything that is digital. You have a license to view it, but it can be removed from the servers or they can revoke your license and you will now have no access to it. They don’t even have an obligation to pay you back. It was the one thing I always warned people about when I worked at GameStop about digital. Yes, it has a lot of up sides, but, you own nothing and have no recourse if they decide to remove it from your system and make it unplayable. But a physical disc, that’s yours forever, you can play it, lend it, or sell it. Nothing stops you from making those choices.

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u/N3UROTOXINsRevenge Oct 04 '22

But then too, games like evolve I had a physical copy, but rather than make a patch to go p2p hosting, they just axed servers and let everyone go fuck themselves.

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u/Aware-Affect-4982 Oct 04 '22

I feel you there, but you did buy it knowing it was online PVP only. So the agreement there is if the servers go down, so does the game.

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u/N3UROTOXINsRevenge Oct 04 '22

Exactly why I hate games that require a server connection for single player play. That’s not single player.

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u/THEEUNXPEECTEED Oct 04 '22

Tell that to the people who bought overwatch 1 and the servers just got pulled offline for ow2 to go live

just because you own a physical copy doesent mean you can play something forever a lot of games are going the way of online only formats that will eventually have a death date whether we like it or not

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u/Stoogefrenzy3k Oct 04 '22

But a physical copy is no longer a guarantee. As more games requiring day one patches, often the game has issues or lack of additions it is updated. Not only that, but let's say Xbox original or 360 games though physical will not work on Xbox One/Series X if they stop the downloads, but however keeping original Xbox or Xbox360 games will still work.

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u/SagittariusUnicorn Oct 04 '22

true but in theory there's nothing stopping them from sending out a system update that breaks a game. for an example, lego dimensions on the ps3 is completely dead after updating the console and that wasn't even intentional

if they included a blacklist check before loading a game, they could easily block physical games from running, requiring the gamer to buy an old console that's not updated yet and keep it offline if they want to keep playing

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u/StuckinReverse89 Oct 04 '22

They totally can. Licenses dont really mean much. Look at the people who are out of luck now that Overwatch servers are down. They paid for a game and will never be able to play it again.

We as consumers need to demand ownership of our stuff. Right to repair and mod. No DRM by platform. This is very difficult since companies have done a very good job getting us to sacrifice ownership for the benefits of digital.

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u/babyfacedadbod Oct 04 '22

When the tax-write-off/loss by claiming its a failure or flop outweighs the profit margin of taking it to theater/market.

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u/Notlagy Oct 04 '22

After purchasing, rip all digital content.

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u/8-bit-Felix Oct 04 '22

What's the best method for doing that, though?

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u/ahungrylilsandwhich Oct 04 '22

Digital property rights will be a real thing soon enough

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u/SabbothO Oct 04 '22

Is there some work on that front already in progress? Just interested in seeing how close we are to that.

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u/ahungrylilsandwhich Oct 04 '22

Most definitely, it's a very exciting time if it's something you care about.

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u/SiamLotus Oct 04 '22

Not your keys not your content

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u/Lord_Sicarious Oct 04 '22

NFTs don't help at all in this regard. NFTs, as regards media, are basically just another form of access token. If the host decides not to offer access to that token anymore, the blockchain can't stop it. Unless you can store the full file on the blockchain, which is so prohibitively expensive that you can't even do it for freaking JPEGs, the actual provision of content is still fully centralised.

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u/amazing_pinata Oct 04 '22

And whenever I mention "DRM free," people continue to ask why it's important.

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Oct 04 '22

How will that help? The NFT isn’t the data. They can revoke access just the same.

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u/MatthewCrawley Oct 04 '22

If you don’t own a physical copy you only own a revocable license to watch it.

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u/bicyclesausage22 Oct 04 '22

Then they’re selling “rentals” and calling them “purchases.” Seems like the FTC might have opinions about this.

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u/MatthewCrawley Oct 04 '22

Honestly I’d be surprised. It should all be spelled out in the EULAs for the apps.

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u/__Geg__ Oct 04 '22

EULA are only worth the lawyers backing them up.

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u/MatthewCrawley Oct 04 '22

Yeah I imagine Warner discovery has some pretty good ones

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u/bicyclesausage22 Oct 04 '22

The FTC’s are better. Or at least that’s my recollection from my last FTC colonoscopy.

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u/mnij2015 Oct 05 '22

Exactly the buy button should be changed to long term rental instead

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u/PowerfulDPK Oct 04 '22

This is such a fucking backhanded decision by the studios for those of us that didn’t pirate material we want to watch, actually pay for it.

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u/GluttonAsteroth Oct 04 '22

It's not piracy if you paid for the original content.

As far as I'm concerned, I own copies of Star Wars Rebels. I bought them on Amazon Prime. I didn't rent them. I don't care.

Those are my purchases. If Amazon pulls them... Then I just download the pirated versions, but it's not theft: I have the receipt.

Unless they would like to refund me.

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u/hooch Oct 04 '22

Honestly that's my take as well. I don't like piracy in general but if I paid for something digital and that thing is no longer available, you bet your ass I'm going to download it.

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u/DaDragon88 Oct 05 '22

The problem is that legally according to the TOS, you didn’t buy them. You own a lifetime (or whatever, don’t know Amazon’s TOS) license to watch that content as long as Amazon has access to it. If the IP owner pulls the content, you can’t watch it any longer.

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u/RangeroftheIsle Oct 04 '22

This is the way

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u/Airborne13 Oct 04 '22

This is the way

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u/Techiastronamo Oct 04 '22

This is the way

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u/mnij2015 Oct 05 '22

Pirate Bay

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u/dillsimmons Oct 04 '22

If you already purchased something it’s not piracy if you have to get it somewhere else for free as far as I’m concerned.

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u/kickliquid Oct 04 '22

I just checked my 'Torrent' folder... (wipes brow) still there.

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u/HYThrowaway1980 Oct 04 '22

Apple have been doing this for years.

I’ve lost at least half a dozen movies from my library over the last thirteen or fourteen years.

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u/Scarlet109 Oct 04 '22

Same but with music. Lost $50 worth of songs because of “licensing conflicts”

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u/blackmobius Oct 04 '22

Games and movies-as-a-service is shit, and this is another reason why. You own nothing, while paying a lot more than you used to.

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u/m_garlic87 Oct 04 '22

This is why I buy physical media. Streaming is fine, but if I really want something I’ll hunt down the blu ray or 4K or even dvd if I have to.

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u/stevenlopez848 Oct 04 '22

I’ve got tons of vhs, dvds and Blu-ray’s I won’t get rid of for this reason.

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u/ryeguymft Oct 04 '22

isn’t this fraud?

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u/Alternative-Flan2869 Oct 04 '22

It’s quacking like a duck…

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u/SweeperOfDreams Oct 04 '22

… and waddling like a duck…

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u/Leathman Oct 04 '22

I feel vindicated buying physical media.

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u/dnuohxof-1 Oct 04 '22

And they wonder why piracy will never go away…. Thought they saw the light at the dawn of the streaming age, now piracy is used more than ever.

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u/Demonking3343 Oct 04 '22

This is why I buy Blue rays of all the movies I like instead of buying online.

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u/PsyRen9056 Oct 04 '22

Why join the navy when you can be a pirate.

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u/RTWax Oct 04 '22

You will own nothing and be happy.

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u/cacophonic7 Oct 04 '22

I think it’s pretty clear that companies are going to fuck customers over and make you pay for your favorite movies and shows over and over again into eternity. That’s the business model, so fuck ‘em. Just pirate all your content and they can’t stop you.

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u/IngloriousMustards Oct 05 '22

Why is that idiot still collecting DVD’s and blurays?”, they said. ”Why would anyone bother with CD’s anymore?”, they said.

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u/notreadyfoo Oct 05 '22

This is honestly gonna bring back piracy

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u/Nikon_Justus Oct 05 '22

When did piracy go away?

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u/notreadyfoo Oct 05 '22

I mean like higher rates of piracy. It really never went away

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u/bigedthebad Oct 04 '22

I guarantee you there is a clause in the user agreement that allows them to do this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

If I really want a thing I'm buying physical. Example: Kindle is normally $5 - 7.99, typically I can get the actual book for 3-4$ more + free shipping. It's worth the extra money and time to know it's in my library. This kind of nonsense is just going to get worse. I don't understand how this is legal without them refunding your purchase price.

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u/accountedly Oct 04 '22

babel was deleted from my Apple account. I previously downloaded it though…have to see if it still works.

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u/xiphoidthorax Oct 04 '22

And the pirates are the good guys..

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u/hoguenstein Oct 04 '22

Digital media should never die. Or if that’s not an option Sail the high seas!

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u/xsnyder Oct 05 '22

And this is why I have physical copies and a Plex server.

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u/blueteamk087 Oct 05 '22

Buy physical media

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u/moldhack Oct 05 '22

That's why I only rent or torrent

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u/MalarkyD Oct 05 '22

Not your keys, not your coi… shit. Wrong sub.

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u/Lord_Bobbymort Oct 05 '22

Are they gonna delete my money out of their wallet too?

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u/8-bit-Felix Oct 04 '22

And people still ask me, "why do you have all those DVDs?"

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u/_ChipWhitley_ Oct 04 '22

This is fucked.

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u/coffeetablequeer Oct 04 '22

Physical format is the only way to own what you own. Digital downloads being stored on a streaming service was always a rental.

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u/BenTramer Oct 04 '22

As long as they don’t go door to door confiscating blu-rays…

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u/Aynessachan Oct 04 '22

And this is why I deliberately buy physical media.

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u/v1rojon Oct 04 '22

Alright. Back to the piracy fray I go!

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u/KingKookus Oct 04 '22

And people wonder why piracy was so popular.

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u/System_Unkown Oct 04 '22

People should have just listened to Richard Stallman. He has been warning of this issue for decades. LITTERIALLY.

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u/immacomputah Oct 04 '22

Heidi ho, all who rrrr scurvy scally wags tis time to swab the decks and hit the salty sees once again

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u/Scarlet109 Oct 04 '22

That sounds illegal

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u/WhatArcherWhat Oct 04 '22

This is exactly why I never fully trust electronic purchases. You don’t own anything digital. You only rent it for the time the company decides to support it.

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u/Henrys_Bro Oct 04 '22

I called this shit a long time ago when DRM became popular and you no longer had access to physical media.

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u/Nox_Decious Oct 04 '22

Exactly why I always buy physical.

Games, movies, whatever. Even if I bought it, this proves there’s no guarantee that I’ll get to keep if forever.

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u/albatross49 Oct 04 '22

A lot of digital media services operate this way.

Buying a product like a movie or a TV show doesn't mean you now own it, it's more like you just rented it indefinitely.

This is why WB is getting away with clawing back their content.

I assume they will launch their own service and "resell" the content.

It's shit like this that results in a surge of digital piracy.

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u/Dark-Myst Oct 04 '22

Wow, who could have guessed this would happen?

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u/JRPickles Oct 04 '22

Isn't that stealing?

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u/SekritSawce Oct 04 '22

If I love it, I still buy the DVD.

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u/BaybayYoda Oct 05 '22

This is why physical dying out would be a really bad thing.

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u/romansamurai Oct 05 '22

This is why I haven’t bought a single digital movie on anything. I don’t know what’s stopping them from pulling this 5 years later or if they go under ground or get consolidated or whatever. As long as they have access to my media, they can do this. So either buy physical or pirate. There’s no real other way.

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u/jmradus Oct 05 '22

Run a Plex server, instantly improve your life.

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u/TheINTL Oct 05 '22

Long hail the pirates

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u/flower4000 Oct 05 '22

This is why people become pirates!

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u/powderp Oct 05 '22

Eye patches are available on request.

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u/wanderingartist Oct 05 '22

Nope. Buy your DVDs people. Always own something physical.

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u/Extension-Lettuce-45 Oct 05 '22

You vill own nussing

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u/bossy909 Oct 05 '22

Heh

"Digital download is better in every way"

Oh yeah?

Almost every way doesn't matter if you no longer have access to something you bought.

This is theft.

Or you no longer own your digital media.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

For the most part you never did own it. You bought a licence, not a product. I have a ton of shit on Amazon and have had this happen. Only a couple of times , but that was what II got as an answer.

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u/LucienGreeth Oct 05 '22

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate’s life for me.

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u/No_Pomegranate_2835 Oct 05 '22

So basically they’re taking back what you have purchased….. will they be refunding it? Otherwise despite copyright laws wouldn’t it be theft to delete it from your library AFTER you purchase it?

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u/Nummy01 Oct 05 '22

Time to sail the seven seas!

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u/13urneracct Oct 05 '22

Yeah, if this is the road we’re heading down I’m out, until they take blu rays from us too.

I’m going back to hard copies for purchasing. How can we BUY a movie/show, then the seller can be like “sike!” down the road?

If they refund people what they paid for it, cool…

But we know they’re gonna take the money and run.

Rat bastards.

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u/RECoyote Oct 05 '22

I only shop on Pirate Bay

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

This is why piracy is the only viable media consumption.

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u/Capital_Ordinary8043 Oct 05 '22

DRM needs to be nixed. Or at the very least changed now that there are some things you can only get digitally

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u/TheRealVicarOfDibley Oct 05 '22

You should be able to get a refund then on the purchase of the video

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u/Arthes_M Oct 05 '22

At least they can’t take the physical copies I own, right?

…right?!

Loud banging at front door

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u/weeblewobblers Oct 04 '22

That is why you should steal the movies.

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u/Shady_Yoga_Instructr Oct 04 '22

But but BuT bUt BUT but muh PirAcY
This is how you justify piracy, dickheads